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Originally posted by Mactire
The way I see it is; if Wal-Mart can legally pump chemicals into their A/Cs to stimulate shoppers to buy, then why couldn't/wouldn't the government do the same to the masses to try and manipulate the populous to do whatever the hell it is they want/need them to do?
Originally posted by Promion
Originally posted by bastet11
I don't need convincing.
I don't mind that we discuss and debate the REASONS that they are spraying the trails but to deny they are spraying? Either you are a pure shill or you don't want to see.
I spent the better part of my life walking. I KNOW the skies. I know what clouds look like..all types. I KNOW what contrails are.
Now my personal story. It the beginning of Feb 2009, not long before the swine flu got it's foothold in the media..I left work around 430pm on a Wednesday (the 11th). As I drove home, I took note of the particularly heavy spray day. I found myself in disbelief of the amount of hazy gridding. It was chilling, actually. I recall saying aloud to my mother when I got home "I just want to point out..if I fall ill in a few days, I think they put something in the trails.." I am not even sure what made me say that..maybe because the trails looked so intensely deliberate.
That was a Wednesday. On Thursday I awoke with a gravelly voice but got through the day thinking I would be ok. Friday I felt okay..worked my usual half-day, got home around noon and took the kids out for errands. I was at a pizza house when I was overcome with an intensely chilly feeling. One hour later, while walking through Target, I thought I was going to pass out..very suddenly. Getting home was awful..I had to keep stopping the car and wait out the waves of achiness. That evening I tossed and turned in godawful pain. The next morning I got up, still feeling awful and tried to make my kid's valentines day treat bags. Walking upstairs, I collapsed and fell forward on my chest, bruising my breastbone and ribs. I was miserable. That evening (Sat.) the coughing started. By Sunday I was so weak and the coughing was AWFUL. Monday I could not get to work..by Tuesday the cough was so serious I drove to the ER. I was having desperate breathing issues and hacked up fibrous material and blood. They noted my breathing was struggling and placed me on Oxygen. They ran tests, assuming I had the flu. The doctor was very perplexed at my results. He described it as "Pneumonia with sort of a flu but like nothing we've seen.."
I was put on heavy medications and I dosed up on Vitamins D and C especially. Both of my children got the same thing to a lesser degree.
Long story short..within 2-3 days of those trails, San Diego county EXPLODED with cases like mine. While in the ER, I heard dozens of people stating the same symptoms. I will forever remain convinced that there was something in those trails.
My daughter's father is an aerospace engineer and an expert on planes; works for Northrup. He is no conspiracy theorist but finally admitted that he was fully aware of the "mystery planes" that spray up the sky. He is uncomfortable discussing it, but has been kind enough in the past to take good pics of them doing their thing. I'm going to trust he knows what he's talking about in regards to planes.edit on 14-5-2011 by bastet11 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by kellynap43
reply to post by SatoriTheory
I wouldnt agree with the theory to slowly reduce population or kill off citizens. Why would the goverment due this when there whole power comes from the mighty tax dollar. With out citizens paying taxes, they dont survive. With that said, 49% of americans now dont pay taxes(welfare, social secuity, etc) Who knows?
Originally posted by muzzleflash
First they came for the Geo-Engineering forum and I didn't visit it much so I didn't speak up.
Then they came for the Weaponry forum, claiming it should go with Military Projects, but I didn't bother to protest.
But then they came for Aircraft Projects and everyone was so used to decreasing the amount of topics that we didn't bother protesting then either, and the quality of ATS began to subside.
Moral of the story, we should increase the number of major forums not decrease them.
Originally posted by RisenAngel77
Sorry Debunkers, chemtrails are real, HAARP is real. You wanna know what else? It pisses me off that people debunk crap when I am seeing it every single day with my own eyes. Feeling strange things on my head, something I never felt before the chemtrails started.
One day, you will start seeing what many others see, and you will come to these forums and apologize. I hold no judgement towards any of you, I was once asleep too, but it is because of your denial that these things keep occuring. Stop it, and admit it, and actually bring awareness to this matter.
Be the Hero you were born to be.
Sorry, I just needed to say something on this subject.
Originally posted by LexMustReturn
reply to post by ProRipp
Tell us how you really feel. Why doesnt somebody just publicly ask Obama if the government is doing it ?
Originally posted by PinealGland
By the way, how do you guys get that youtube video to display so nicely like that in your post. I click "VID: YOUTUBE" at the toolbar for the posting thing and it asks me for a youtube video NUMBER? I looked all over and I can't find any youtube number. What gives?
Originally posted by Sinter Klaas
I have seen multiple reports of people that admitted they wer spraying someting in the air.including a former military guy that bacame a weatherman. He said it was forsome sort of climate control.
Also, the UN has has requested that nations stop implemening these climate control activities because it could end up for the worse, we do not know what kind of effects there will be on the long run.
Also, I believe Germany officially admitted that they were spraying stuff.
Of course the trails in the sky have become abundant.. Air traffic has multiplied again and again and again the last 50 years,
Originally posted by CouncilOfNine
reply to post by Chadwickus
I still fail to see why they would want to seed a sky that has no clouds in it!! After all as you said it is CLOUD SEEDING.
A lot of the trails seen are criss crossing the sky like a checkers board, and the problem being is that there are no natural clouds, just the so called "Cloud Seeding"
Originally posted by CouncilOfNine
reply to post by Uncinus
I would like to see your evidence that it is NOT being sprayed. You guys are always sprouting about producing proof .....well where's your proof this does not exist????
Originally posted by Tecumte
Come into the modern age, the old 'cloud seeding' methods used decades ago have been suplanted with new very sophisticated ways of creating clouds and maniplulating weather. You guys really have to be smarter than this, when I read your replies they appear very disingenuous, and I for one don't really believe your even trying to be honest, only attempting to confuse the issue.
....those aren't just clouds floating by.