Ahh, right on cue. The KC-10 video, along with another chemtrail video that uses every debunked and explained photo there is. Even the preview pic for it, is a photo from CG testing with the water barrels.

Originally posted by Adyta
If any forum should be shut down, it's the dream / prediction forum. Nobody cares that you had a dream Obama was from another planet and he is secretly pilfering this planet of it's sea salts.

It's such an absurd forum.

What good is it to completely shut down a forum? There are people that genuinely want to have a discussion in those forums, even if you don't believe what they're discussing. I always thought that was the best part of ATS. No matter how ridiculous or absurd the story, you'll probably at least find one person on here that you can actually have a proper discussion with and share your ideas.

They have a right to post their views... just as you have the right to avoid the forum altogether if its not "your thing". The problem comes from people bashing other people's views... not the forum's themselves.

Even if most, if not all, predictions don't come true, or even if we're not having chemicals sprayed on us on a daily basis, I'll vigorously defend someone's right to have and post their opinion. Who are we to say they're not allowed to talk about a subject that's dear to them?

Regardless of how ridiculous a post is, I'll read it for the simple fact that it's fascinating to me that someone actually has that point of view. If the only thing I can add to the conversation is to call them a nutjob, well, I'll swallow my pride and keep it to myself because there's absolutely nothing constructive in my doing so. Who knows, too... maybe in the end I'm the nutjob for not believing them in the first place.

It's kind of sad that it's come to this, really. I'm sure we all have some crazy views about one thing or another. It would be nice if there was a little more acceptance and less personal attacks.

I've been interested in Chemtrails for a long time. I take pictures of them all the time. Us who have concerns and interest, and do the research shouldn't in my opinion, argue with people who don't agree. I think it is a waste of time. There will come along those who get it, spend time sharing with them. I used to get so mad trying to "prove" things to people that would argue, but ... I realized after a long time that they really weren't interested in whatever subject, like chemtrails, they were interested in arguing. I think this is a great thread! Don't shut it down over debate, just don't respond to debates that aren't sincere I saw a great video on youtube entitled,
"What in the world are they spraying" For those who are truly interested if you haven't seen it, check it out! I personally, am mostly drawn to "them" dumbing down society. Maybe so the young can rule the world?

Originally posted by v0ice0freas0n
Because they don't. I'm not making up a fact about photography for the sake of saving you the time it takes to scan, the truth is that it isn't viable evidence if your argument is "the colors in this photo look different than the colors outside today." If you do a two second search on the internet, you will find many reasons for the deterioration of photographs, here is a chunk from wikipedia that lists some:

I never said your info was wrong. The point, one more time, is why the continued demands that I produce photos when they are already to be rejected. Why ask for photos when you know they won't prove anything to you? That's my point. I've said it every whichway I can think of.

Originally posted by auraelium

yes i do...

dirt is 7% alluminium?` pretty broad statement. Dirt from where? your saying all soil has 7% alluminium? i think you need to go check that out.

So snow would have dirt in it.... Yes it should have minute particles of dust and possibly some particles of alluminium. 1200 times above normal no.. im afraid not.

You argument is that there should be trace amounts of alluminium in mountain snow. but your still not explaining why these samples are 1200 times above normal.

Yes on average, the earths crust is around 7.5 percent Aluminum by weight. you will find it in most any soil, or dust sample.

There is no proof of anything 1200 times normal.