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What is wrong with Americans?

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posted on May, 12 2011 @ 12:36 AM
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My father came here many years ago, illegally. He tried many times to stay here, only to be deported. He gave it one final try, and he ended up not being deported. He worked in the fields for YEARS, back breaking work, for minimum wage, just to save up enough money to get his legal papers. He over came dangerous climates, deadly walks to give my family a better life. I don't understand why you american's are so cold toward mexicans. Sure, their is a few bad apples, but what race doesn't? I see the U.S most notorious serial killers were white. Ted Bundy, Charles Manson, etc. So we have a deadly drug cartel, you have the murdering KKK. People try hard to make a living for themselves and feed their children. WE work hard jobs that you wouldn't take. DO NOT start with the BS of "Oh if I could take that job I would blah blah blah" No, you wont pick strawberries for minimum wage. You people are so cold to refuse to help those in need. You act like you could put your tax money for something more useful, like what war? A war that's full of lies, killing thousands of innocent people everyday. Your country reeks in homelessness, crime, and ignorance. Our country sucks, okay cool, we know it. If you think it's so easy to fix a government why don't you fix yours? Many people, like my father, risk their lives to have a life they never could. Your ancestors came here in search of what we search for, A BETTER LIFE. The native american's welcomed them, and they stabbed them in the back. Killing and taking the men, raping and killing women, ravaging like lunatics, village to village. Or like the Irish, coming in search for money, jobs, homes, a better life. We love america, we try to obey your rules, try to gain what we can legally as much as we can. But how can we with you always putting us down. Making it seem like we're all useless and criminals.

Maybe I just dont understand why it's okay to deny others the right to find the american dream. Why others have the privilege, and other don't. Sure I understand, that you must be legalized in order to come into this country. But why not give others the chance to try to obtain what we have? Who does it hurt? The pockets of congress, those focused on greed. You don't lose sleep over it. The media and the government feeds us lies, about illegal immigration, and immigrants and you eat it all up. As if God came down and told you these things. PEOPLE WAKE UP, WE HAVE DREAMS WE HAVE FEELINGS. WE HAVE RIGHTS AS HUMAN BEINGS TO MAKE LIFE BETTER FOR OUR CHILDREN.




posted on May, 12 2011 @ 12:44 AM
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I personally don't have a problem with Americans from south of the boarder. And you're very right...very many "white" Americans would not do the manual labor required for many jobs that Mexicans often do. My only issue is, there should be more LEGAL workers allowed into the country. That way, more people are paying taxes, rather than working under the table.

With that said though, I did see a thread the other day that "illegal" workers actually paid several billions of dollars in taxes the last reporting year whereas some of our large companies didn't pay any.

Honestly...and I swear I'm not trying to be racist with this comment...it's no longer cool to pick on black people. And too many whites are too scared to pick on Muslims. So Latin Americans take the brunt of the "discontent."

Cause it's never your own fault..it has to be someone elses.....



posted on May, 12 2011 @ 12:44 AM
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break the law
do the time

once thats done
american dream all you wish

serial killers all white
like the one recent in ohio

or the hole of bodies in mexico
or skinned alive

a flaming neck tie
either way

knocking one race
while trying to convince others to up lift yours

is not the way i would go
but then again if i am white

i am the problem
right



posted on May, 12 2011 @ 12:46 AM
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They have sold out.

The beautiful truths about freedom and human dignity espoused by their founders are being eroded and replaced with selfish apathy.



posted on May, 12 2011 @ 12:49 AM
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Are you saying Americans or white people?



posted on May, 12 2011 @ 12:54 AM
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Im not blaming any other race. I said AMERICANS. Not all american's are white.
I didn't mean to bring your race down to make mine better.
I am simply bringing to your attention, the negatives out, like others bring the negatives of up of my race out, like for example the drug cartel.
My father had applied for citizenship and it would of taken him 10 years to gain entrance into the United States, legally. I would of been born without my father, thus making my mother, single, making it more hard on her, depending on welfare. (My mother was legal)
It upsets me to see negative responses about my race, simply because of a few bad people. If it was easier for people to gain entrance I am positive illegal immigration would be no problem.
Most mexican's work very hard, most dont retire until their late 60's.



posted on May, 12 2011 @ 12:55 AM
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I am addressing this to ALL american's, I refer to the KKK and white american serial killers to those who hate my race (who just happen to be white 90% of the time) But other than that to all americans.



posted on May, 12 2011 @ 12:56 AM
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I agree with you in principal however there is a right way and a wrong way of entering another nation; that's what immigration laws are for.

I can only speak about the illegal immigrants here where they not only burn the detention centers down but most of them never become earners for many years if at all and those who end up self employed never pay tax at all due to their cash only businesses. They know all the tricks because they learn them and how to get around the welfare and tax system before their arrival. Thats not all of them, that's a majority of them.

For every single illegal immigrant, that's one legal immigrant that get's put back 10 notches of those standing in line who have something to offer this country.



posted on May, 12 2011 @ 12:59 AM
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Most Australians and Kiwis don't retire until their late 60's either.



posted on May, 12 2011 @ 01:07 AM
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I personally do not want to learn another language to order a meal, fix the mower, or whatever little project or plans I have. I do not wish to offend but I am feeling alienated in my own little farm town.

My town is over run with mexican food joints.


At least learn to speak english people.

Sorry, I try to be quiet and mind my own business. You asked, so I gave my honest opinion.



posted on May, 12 2011 @ 01:12 AM
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I'm a white American and I agree with a lot of what you say but most countries don't just allow non citizens to waltz in and set up house without jumping through some kind of hoops. Why should the US be expected to do that? My ancestors came from Europe a few generations ago and they gladly jumped through the hoops with the hopes of having a better life.



posted on May, 12 2011 @ 01:46 AM
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Originally posted by liejunkie01
I personally do not want to learn another language to order a meal, fix the mower, or whatever little project or plans I have. I do not wish to offend but I am feeling alienated in my own little farm town.

My town is over run with mexican food joints.


At least learn to speak english people.

Sorry, I try to be quiet and mind my own business. You asked, so I gave my honest opinion.


same thing where i'm at, don't care about the business part, but learn english



posted on May, 12 2011 @ 01:46 AM
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my mis understanding
and for that i apologize

i do see your point
but do not think its
merely citizens

this is media government corporations
divide control and enslave

fear of change too
we tend to stick to familiar

race gender social group
diversity is good

if given the choice
forced anything

is tyranny



posted on May, 12 2011 @ 02:08 AM
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I dunno,
I thought the kkk was a pretty dead organization.
Not as much news on them nowadays but if you wanna rehash old stuff i guess.
I have no problems with Mexicans they are just folks in another country.
I am glad your father was caught inside of the US illegally here's why.
If he were a US citizen illegally in Mexico there most probably would have been fines and prison time.
At least here in the US he was just deported and he got his chance to illegally cross again and again and...
My problem with your ...rant?
You say "you" folks take the jobs that we US citizens would not?
But we did for years we did that work, until migrants did it for cheaper, illegally undermining our systems.
Now this newer crop of US citizens stand on corners and swing and flip signs around.
Quite humiliating in my opinion, I would never do that job.
I think these sign swingers would rather do honest work and not be humiliated for most likely the same pay.
Well on the brighter side, I don't think many non US citizens will be doing any sign swinging on a street corner as it is too high visibility, and illegals prefer to do things out of the public eye.
Just another perspective.
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posted on May, 12 2011 @ 03:07 AM
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Do you know or care of how many of Europeans were sent back to their home countries because of communicable diseases and criminal records.

That was why Ellis Island in New York,and the other immigration facilities in Charleston and San Fran were there for.

To insure only those who could contribute to our society could enter.

There were Asians (Filipinos) working in the fields and also blacks in the south.

Chavez even got the idea of the UFW from a old Filipino gent who had tried to create a union for farm workers.

Chavez was fiercely against unchecked immigration from Mexico because his UFW would only work if the workers here were all documented.

Immigration needs to be regulated so there is no sudden increase on the nations infrastructure.

This includes schools,hospitals and even housing but also highways,and other utilities.

That is why we had visas and quotas.

Those other low paying jobs that illegals have taken were usually done by uneducated Americans who was happy to be working and receiving a pay check.

Dio you know why here are so many Black men and women in prison?

There are no jobs out in the world that they would be able to do.

illegals have taken them all.

The lat amnesty program that legalized the illegals here created a whole new group of legal workers that basically took jobs away from the black community.

That is janitors ,cooks and maids ever seen the movie "Car Wash" with Richard Pryor?

The men I knew that worked in car washes were all black.

You appear to be lucky to have a loving mother and father who took care of you and tried to assimilate in to this society.

It would be nice in a perfect world that all those who seek our country were nice hard working people .

Unfortunately that is not the case.

Those mass murders you speak of were all mentally unstable.

In all society there are a few like that.

You should do a little more homework and study you owns country's past.

You have in your "closet" just as many mentally ill people too.

And please tell you "people" that we are not racist,because you are Caucasian like most Americans are.

Your descendants were from Spain so in all actuality your not real a Mexican.

The true and real Mexican are the Mayan descendants that still look like the original Mayans.

Our country the Spanish bloods that are in power treats them worse than we did and still do to the original people.

70% of the Mexican population IN Mexico do not even consider themselves native Mexican.

Most of the illegals do not even try to learn English.

They are here to just make money and get drunk it seems to me.

I live in a agriculture community on the California coast.

I see the effects of illegal immigrants every day.

What was a community of 70% whites and 30% Americans with Mexican ethnicity when I first came here is now reversed.

Strangely the Americans with Mexican ethnicity is still at 30% the other 40% are illegals here to work in the fields.

The big secret that the liberal media will never report.

The Americans with Mexican ethnicity don't like the illegals being here either.

How do I know?

My two daughters are dating Americans whose relatives integrated here legally three generations ago.
I have had very good conversations with both families.

Am I a racist?

My wife was from the Philippines.

I brought her here on a finance visa,25 five years ago.

The USSR disintegrated because the populace could not communicate with each other.

They all spoke many different languages and could not each other.

The Irish and Italians and all the other countries people who immigrated here knew to be successful they learned English.

The best way is to stop speaking Spanish and learn English.

I assumed you are bilingual.

Dis you know a study was done that first generation Mexicans married out of their ethnicity at a rate of about 50%.

The next generation at a rate of almost 70%.

The drain on a state,local and federal coffers have led to over crowed schools jammed up roads and streets,over crowed emergency rooms.

The systems designed for legal immigrants and American citizens to use in case of need are now almost bankrupt because of all the poor "anchor babies" receiving benefits too.

If you took out all those that illegals that crossed the border and their American children that were conceived and birthed here, the whole American system would sigh a breathe of relief.

Of course the police force would have to lay of all the cops too.

Please also tell all your friends of your ethnicity all that "give me your tired and poor" meant those that come here legally not the back door is open and unlocked,come on in and sit down.

That would make you a criminal and anyone that enters a country without going through the proper channels should be treated like one!

Is is only a couple of generations before what was once a great country of laws and people that respected them will be no different than what is taking place in your country today.

And KKK thugs you speak of?

They were all Democrats.

There was VERY FEW old Republicans in the south.

Republicans moved to the south to fight for voting rights and civil liberties for the minorities that lived there!

ALL civil rights acts that have moved this country forwars were submitted and passed because pleasure from the Republican politicians.

The last amnesty program was authorized by a Republican President!

It would behoove all immigrant Americans to vote Republican and stop listening to the Democratic propaganda machine.

But my question is this to you.

Why don't all those law abiding citizens who have come from a country like Mexico with its present condition,ask for political refugee status?



edit on 12-5-2011 by IamJustanAmerican because: correct spelling errors.

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posted on May, 12 2011 @ 08:51 AM
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Actually, I think we'd see sky-high prices in produce, lawn care, and other manual labor-dependent industries if we truly cracked down on illegals.


Like it or not, illegal labor is a key factor in our economy (and yes, they do pay some taxes).

I have no hatred for them, but when caught, you're caught. Simple as that. I get no sympathy for breaking the law. I get punished like everyone else, so surely a non-citizen will be as well.

It's not about hate, it's about regulation. Without it, we'd have drugs, terrorism, etc. floating across the border in droves instead of trickles.

There is a legitimate and legal process for coming here and achieving the American Dream. Cirvumvent it at your own risk if you choose to do so illegally.


And KKK thugs you speak of?

They were all Democrats.

There was VERY FEW old Republicans in the south.

Republicans moved to the south to fight for voting rights and civil liberties for the minorities that lived there!

ALL civil rights acts that have moved this country forwars were submitted and passed because pleasure from the Republican politicians.

The last amnesty program was authorized by a Republican President!

It would behoove all immigrant Americans to vote Republican and stop listening to the Democratic propaganda machine.


Refreshing to see someone knowing their nation's history.
I still can't get over why the Democratic party is the one most minorities identify with. This party was the one wanting to keep former slaves in virtual servitude after the war! *shakes head in wonder*.....
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posted on May, 12 2011 @ 09:33 AM
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Blah blah blah..

Sorry but this crap doesn't work on me. I live in FL and we get a lot of illegals here. I have no problem with people from Mexico but i have a problem with them being here illegally. You have to follow rules and many don't. Sorry to say it but the majority that come here are illegal. Some do it the right and that is fine, it's legal!

Americans don't have a problem with Mexicans or people in other countries they have a problem with how they get here and then want to stay. My biggest problem with people from any other country is their flat out refusal to speak English then get upset because I won't speak their language. Sorry you moved here, learn mine first! That is the one thing that bothers me most. If you want the American Dream so bad learn the language.



posted on May, 12 2011 @ 02:29 PM
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First off, I have no problem with mexicans.
Second, I WOULD take a job picking strawberries for minimum wage. It took me A YEAR AND A HALF to get a job, working graveyard shifts at a local Carl's Jr. A YEAR AND A HALF! I looked everywhere, talked to many people, and no one was hiring. I would have and would STILL take any job I could.
I get that people want a better life, but if you're going to come here, follow the rules, and learn the language, please...that's all I ask.
I have only once ever had a conflict with a few immigrants...and that was their own doing because they were bitter toward me because I'm white and somehow "I" stole their land? Um okay? Not only that, but while I work my ass off I barely have enough to eat and pay rent, meanwhile SOME not all are living off my tax dollars getting Iphone 4s and Hummers. Yet, I'm the enemy...okay.



posted on May, 14 2011 @ 01:21 AM
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Originally posted by celimonster
My father came here many years ago, illegally. He tried many times to stay here, only to be deported. He gave it one final try, and he ended up not being deported. He worked in the fields for YEARS, back breaking work, for minimum wage, just to save up enough money to get his legal papers. He over came dangerous climates, deadly walks to give my family a better life. I don't understand why you american's are so cold toward mexicans. Sure, their is a few bad apples, but what race doesn't? I see the U.S most notorious serial killers were white. Ted Bundy, Charles Manson, etc. So we have a deadly drug cartel, you have the murdering KKK. People try hard to make a living for themselves and feed their children. WE work hard jobs that you wouldn't take. DO NOT start with the BS of "Oh if I could take that job I would blah blah blah" No, you wont pick strawberries for minimum wage. You people are so cold to refuse to help those in need. You act like you could put your tax money for something more useful, like what war? A war that's full of lies, killing thousands of innocent people everyday. Your country reeks in homelessness, crime, and ignorance. Our country sucks, okay cool, we know it. If you think it's so easy to fix a government why don't you fix yours? Many people, like my father, risk their lives to have a life they never could. Your ancestors came here in search of what we search for, A BETTER LIFE. The native american's welcomed them, and they stabbed them in the back. Killing and taking the men, raping and killing women, ravaging like lunatics, village to village. Or like the Irish, coming in search for money, jobs, homes, a better life. We love america, we try to obey your rules, try to gain what we can legally as much as we can. But how can we with you always putting us down. Making it seem like we're all useless and criminals.

Maybe I just dont understand why it's okay to deny others the right to find the american dream. Why others have the privilege, and other don't. Sure I understand, that you must be legalized in order to come into this country. But why not give others the chance to try to obtain what we have? Who does it hurt? The pockets of congress, those focused on greed. You don't lose sleep over it. The media and the government feeds us lies, about illegal immigration, and immigrants and you eat it all up. As if God came down and told you these things. PEOPLE WAKE UP, WE HAVE DREAMS WE HAVE FEELINGS. WE HAVE RIGHTS AS HUMAN BEINGS TO MAKE LIFE BETTER FOR OUR CHILDREN.


Your nothing but another La Raza wannabe conquistador. For starters not all serial killers are white. The only reason White serial killers take the cake is because of how "odd" and unsettling it is to start off with. Kind of like Kujo.

Secondly, cheap labor hinders technological advancement. Your "noble" pappa helped set America back, thank you very much!

Thirdly, we don't and never did want your kind of immigrant in this country. If your pappa would of worked hard in his home country, save money and come to America to start a business and become an American in good faith, sure why not.

But a dirty laborer who probably sent most of his check back to Mexico or wherever? Thief! Your people already stolen billions upon billions from America, and not only are you a thief but a liar as well. In Spanish "New World" colonies the natives where all but exterminated. It was YOUR ancestors the spanish who enslaved, butchered and raped at will Native women. The Worst Anglo or any other Americans(The trail of tears in the Anglo south takes the cake though) did was push them off their land and a few lopsided deals.

So lets see, your A) a criminal, B) a thief and C) a liar

P.S the KKK was an Anglo/Scot-Irish Southern Institution. The fact you think White=KKK exposes you as the Caucasian, American hating bigot you are!



posted on May, 15 2011 @ 03:29 AM
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America, is hands down the most suppressed society in the world, in a sense lol but seriously, things are messed up big time here but we all pretend everything is ok



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