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Your mentaility would be to legalise guns in a country that already has a well known reputation for violence...real clever, I gotta say.
There are social reasons behind most violent crimes...most.not all
Your staing that the US if far less violent, it probably is but I doubt thats down to guns,
but rather witch neighbourhood you live in, or shall i rephrase that by saying white enough to live in haha.
Lets arm all of them...atleast it would cut the population in half overnight. May aswell as the country went to the dogs years ago anyhow.
Guns are bad
it is irrelevant if it's the person using the gun which is the one doing the killing, without the gun they'd have to resort to other weapons which, statistically, don't kill quite as often as a gun does.
Less guns on the streets = less kids being killed by them.
As for the numbers, please show me recent statistics which prove European or other countries with stricter gun laws have higher gun crime than the US.
If you read my post objectively you wouldn't be jumping on the boring bandwagon and rolling out the boring facts which prove pretty much nothing.
Daddy owns a gun and the kid has access to it is the only thing I can think of, and following on from that my reasoning is very simple: If daddy (or mommy) didn't have a gun for the kid to get hold of, then perhaps, just maybe, that kind of crime would be reduced.
As for the justification as to why people need to own guns in the US, it's just purile. It's in the constitution..
Or is it possible that because the average American civilian thinks, due to a misguided part of the constitution that because it is their "right" to own a gun, then gun crime has escalated and everyone is now shooting everyone else?
And simply put, there are more gun related crimes in the US than there are in countries which don't allow people to carry guns.
They exist for one sole purpose, to kill or maim people, hence by the very definition of their existence, they are not made for good, they are made for bad.
I wish you well, I have no angst against you personally, I just think you're living in a society which condones things which I couldn't condone even if a gun was held to my head... pun intended.
And then you need to put that fury to good use. Yield nothing, not an inch, not a penny, not a hair on your head, without fighting for it tooth and nail. Do your level best to ensure that if someone has to end up in a body bag this hour, it won’t be your body in that bag. And even if it should happen to be your turn to take your seat in Valhalla, you might as well put your best effort into making sure that you arrive there with your attacker in a firm headlock.
Originally posted by mydarkpassenger
Originally posted by mantic
reply to post by getreadyalready
And that is how you handle ones self responsibly.
Only Cowards hide behind guns. Like Kenny Rogers says, You gotta know when to hold em, know when to fold em, know when to walk away and know when to run.
Hats off and thanks for sharing the story.edit on 11-5-2011 by mantic because: lyric error
You got that dead to rights. In general, only a fool or a coward pulls a gun to hide behind it, while praying that its presence alone will be the trump-card in the encounter and enable him to walk away unaffected.
It seldom works that way; more than likely the perp will take the weapon away from those too timid to shoot.
The only time an enemy should see your weapon is the split second before you use it to bring him down; otherwise hesitation might find you disarmed and still at the perp's tender mercies.
The ONLY time an enemy should see your weapon is when you have decided it will be the last sight on Earth he ever sees.
Call it murder, call if excessive force, call it whatever you weak minded pansies need too, but later on that week as I put my children to sleep and lay down with my wife, I know at least one criminal that will not be coming back to my house in the night.
Originally posted by MikeNice81
You are a pacifist to some extent? If that is truly your moral and spiritual standing then I respect that. I just ask that I not be told to live the same way.
It may be my narrow minded blinkered European view, or as one of the posters after you put it, I am a "pansy" or "pussy" *rolls eyes*.
Added to that violence on TV, the formation of gangs, publicity associated to gun violence, the school killings in the US, etc.. I think we, that is global society, are becoming more and more akin to the animal world.
I wouldn't say it's because of a specific spiritual standing that I feel this way, I think it is more to do with fear, fear for what society is going to be like for my kids because simply put, issues here in the UK are escalating and I don't ever see an end to it.
Are gun laws in the US the cause of that, well.. possibly. I certainly don't think they help,
but it is still my opinion and my gut feeling that it's all going to go to hell for all of us.
I appreciate your responses very much, it is somewhat enlightening to know not everyone is a gung-ho shooting maniac over there, not that I thought that, but you know what I mean I am sure.
Originally posted by getreadyalready
reply to post by torqpoc
Wouldn't that cultural influence be the fault of the media and society in general instead of the guns and gun laws?
And, if that glamourized version of macho gun ownership was the problem, wouldn't it be even more prevalent here in the US than in the UK? I don't see how US kids owning guns and glamourizing them in videos would cause UK to have a higher rate of violence than the US?
Once again, the gun actually helps and improves the situation, even when society at large has a major problem with romanticizing and glamourizing violence.
There is a major societal problem, but the areas with higher gun ownership are less susceptible to that larger problem, while the areas with less gun ownership are seeing high rates of violent crime, largely due to the media, sitcoms, video games, and movies.
Our society definitely has some major problems, but guns are not one of them.