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Originally posted by LosLobos
Originally posted by getreadyalready
What is the right answer?
This is easy. I'm one man. I can't change the world. Just because you shoot someone to protect your wife doesn't mean the very next day the same thing won't happen. What makes anyone think if they shoot a deliverance person then the very next day a deliverance person won't try the same thing?
I'm calling the cops! Some perp is not like a deer you set up to be shot. If you shoot then chances are he won't die right away. And if I was him then I would be totally upset you tried to kill me. Then, I would make sure if I die some folks are coming with me.
I have children and grandchildren just like you. They love me and I love them. I'm not going to risk my life and their future because I want to play RAMBO on the weekends.
You can't save everyone. You can't even save your own wife when her TIME is up on this planet. That's out of our hands. No one can change the future.
I agree that one person can't save everyone; but if everyone looked out for the people around them, the whole world would have a very different future indeed.
Originally posted by Slade88green
So Lobo. if you had a gun and your wife/daughter was being assaulted/raped what would you do? Call the cops and engage the attacker in dialog for the next 30 minutes? " yeah could ya be a little gentler with her, shes only 14 ya know. Just take it easy, no need to let your friend have his way too...but I wont stop you if he does."
going to have to remember that.
Originally posted by Serizawa
reply to post by getreadyalready
Well handled......When such creeps become a threat to the ones we love, Pack some John Rambo S*** and give them the coordinates to a higher dimension. Free them of their physical limitations.
Originally posted by ItCameFromOuterSpace
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Originally posted by getreadyalready
reply to post by 412304
but allowing guns just makes it easier for the bad people to have more force. If you have a scenario where everyone is allowed to have guns at all times, not everyone will carry a gun, so your saying that they dont deserve to be equally defended when an attacker comes at them with a pistol?
If we don't allow guns, the criminals don't respect the law, and they will have them anyway. If they don't have a gun, they might still be bigger, meaner, have a machete, or whatever. So, there job isn't any easier or harder, they will still find a way to do harm.
BUT, if we don't allow guns, the vast majority of people won't have a way to defend themselves against a meaner, more physical attacker. The "force equation" favors the younger, stronger, more aggressive people who have less respect for law and order.
On the other hand, if we DO allow guns. Maybe it is easier for the criminals to get guns, but every potential victim also has an equal right to be armed. A 20 year old 250lb male is on equal ground with an 80 year old grandmother. Without the gun, the 20 year old wins 100% of the time. With the guns, the 20 year old wins some smaller percentage of the time, ideally it would be 50/50!
If someone chooses to be a pacifist, not resist, not defend themselves, then that is their right, but it has nothing to do with what they "deserve," it only has to do with their own personal choices. It isn't the fault of the government, or the society, or the gunmakers, it is an individual choice. If we choose to make that choice for everyone, then we are choosing who "deserves" a right for life and liberty. We are deciding that only the young, strong, males will have the advantage in force equations. I don't believe that is our right to decide for anyone else. I say we make all guns legal in all places at all times, and let the individuals make the choices.