The Death of Osama bin Laden: Results of the survey!, page 10


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reply posted on 14-5-2011 @ 08:21 AM by crimvelvet
reply to post by Immortalgemini527






Some one who believes in the rule of law not men.



But didn't men write the law ?


Excuse me I though everyone was acquainted with the expression "Rule of law vs Rule of Men" since it is so fundamental to the USA law system. It is the actual basis of our entire legal system.

Of course men wrote the Constitution but the "LAW" applies to ALL MEN equally. The words "rule of men" means a person, a ruler, decides based on whim and can apply what ever the heck he wants to who ever the heck he wants.

That is why the "War on Terror" with its inclusion of "Homegrown Terrorists" and the denial of due process is so dangerous. Example of Obama and denial of due process


This article seems to explain it beter than I can.
Rule of Law vs. Rule of Men


All of the governments that mankind has instituted in the history of the world can be divided into two categories. Any and every state can be categorized into either rule of law governments or rule of men governments. History has proven that any nation founded upon the shifting sands of the whim of men will always degenerate into oligarchy and tyranny. However, a nation of virtuous, educated people, which is founded upon and holds to the bedrock of a rule of law system will maintain prosperity and freedom despite the natural occurrences and challenges of history. This elementary yet strikingly relevant dichotomy is misunderstood by many Americans. And, this misunderstanding is one of the many reasons why our nation has been mistakenly led away from a rule of law system toward something that was not intended by our Founding Fathers.

First, it is important to define the two systems. A governmental system ruled by men is any system in which fallen man directs the course of the nation. This includes not only dictatorships and oligarchies where one man or a select few call all of the shots, but also democracies where majority opinion rules without any restraints or protections for minority opinion and individual liberty....

A rule of law system is quite the opposite. In a rule of law system, the nation possesses a set of guidelines usually in a constitution, which sets the terms for governing. Only according to those blueprints for governing, then, can any men write and execute additional laws. The constitution is the law of the land, and everything else must be measured up against it..... www.propagandamatrix.com...



reply posted on 14-5-2011 @ 09:18 AM by DeReK DaRkLy
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A rule of law system is quite the opposite. In a rule of law system, the nation possesses a set of guidelines usually in a constitution, which sets the terms for governing.


The problem here is that a nation cannot possess a set of guidelines without human intervention to first decide what those guidelines are.

Furthermore, since there is always a need to define law within law, as evidenced by the existence of a congressional body, any guidelines set forth are constantly subject, time and again, to the whim of man.


reply posted on 14-5-2011 @ 10:09 PM by brewing
Originally posted by lifeform11
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post by brewing



what exactly do you think this poll is claiming to prove? it does not reflect what those who do not read or use the site think, obviously. otherwise those people would of took the poll, but then they would just be past of as a 'different breed' anyway would'nt they.



I'm not sure what the poll is trying to prove. I could have pretty much guessed these numbers without an official ATS poll. The poll told me nothing anout what I already thought ATS members would say. BTW...I did not participate in the poll. Trying to have my completely opposite views documented would have was utterly pointless.


reply posted on 15-5-2011 @ 12:18 PM by lucysadvocate
reply to post by SkepticOverlord




I think he was killed a while back and this whole thing is just being used as a political chess piece


reply posted on 15-5-2011 @ 05:32 PM by lifeform11
reply to post by brewing



well you might see it that way about it being utterly pointless, that is your choice.
the whole point of the poll is to see what ats members/user think, i think your opinion is just as important as anybody else, even if it did'nt change the outcome, your opinion would still be reflected in the poll even if it was only by 0.1%. if it is only left to those who think everything is a conspiracy to do the poll then the results will not reflect what ats thinks if all the skeptics see it as pointless. it will just look like everybody on this site is for said conspiracies.

i use to be worried and believe alot things to be possible, since using this site i have learnt to be more skeptical and can even see some of the contradictions where some conspiracy theories are concerned. i think there are more skeptics on certain subjects that what you realise. i think if everybody voted you would see a difference.

but it is obviously your choice.
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