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FEMA To Confiscate Food From Local Farms In Emergencies?

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posted on May, 12 2011 @ 09:05 AM
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See this is where a person considered on the left end of the spectrum is proud to have Republicans and Libertarians as part of his brotherhood. I wish more "liberals" would arm themselves and let this government know that they aren't just going to walk up and take someone's property and livelihood.
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posted on May, 12 2011 @ 09:44 AM
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Originally posted by burntheships

Originally posted by MichiganSwampBuck
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I'd like to know if FEMA is doing this all over the country. Since a farm just can't get up and move away, then they are sitting ducks for confiscation and take over.


I would bet they are. Its only logical...

Of course, being the government, they are not going to come right out and admit this is
what they are doing, they claim they are making "food assements".

edit on 11-5-2011 by burntheships because: (no reason given)


I believe this book clearly outlines the plans taken on by most government agencies in response to catastrophes.
www.abovetopsecret.com...
C



posted on May, 12 2011 @ 09:52 AM
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Alright so asume it's all true.

Fema will confiscate all the farm produce,
will process it right, with little to no waste into quality products,
will distribute it properly with no favoritism, and no one being forgotten.

I only have one question.

Exactly where in their charter does it deliniate how they give the power back to the people. You know. Once the crisis is over. In fact. Has any government agency ever given power back once it used it?


David Grouchy



posted on May, 12 2011 @ 07:29 PM
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I did not read all the post in the thread so I do not know if this has been mentioned.

A few years ago farmers were ticked off because the Ag Census was sent out to anyone who ordered from a garden catalog, read a horse magazine got a Coggins test or rabies shots for their animals.

I must have tossed a good half dozen. They essentailly wanted a complete inventor of EVERYTHING on your farm, buildings, equipment, animals, crops... EVERYTHING


U.S. Summary and State Data

A comprehensive summary of agricultural activity is provided for the United States and each of the 50 states. This report includes number of farms by size and type, inventory and values for crops and livestock, operator characteristics and much more....

Census of Horticulture Specialties
Presents tabulations on number of establishments, value of sales, type of horticultural products and other data items for horticultural operations....

Organic Production...

Farm & Ranch Irrigation Survey...

On-Farm Renewable Energy Production Survey....

www.agcensus.usda.gov...



And then there is the satellite survellance system...

One of the farmers mentioned his daughter had a summer job monitoring satellite picts and running programs to determine crop yield. She said you could just about read a trucks license plate!

At the USDA website you can click on the titles for more info.


Global Crop Production Analysis

# FAS Data and Information

* Global:
o Crop Area, Production, Supply and Distribution (PSD Online)
o Weather, Soil Moisture, and Satellite Image Maps and Data (Crop Explorer)
o Satellite Imagery Archive (SIA) for USDA Subscribers (Archive Explorer)
o Monthly Crop Growth Stage and Harvest Calendars
o MODIS Satellite Image Gallery
o Global Agricultural Information Network
o Global Agricultural Monitoring (GLAM)
o Global Reservoir and Lake Monitor
o Satellite Imagery
o RSS News Feeds—Headlines, Archives, and World Agricultural Production
o Vegetation Index Monitor

# USDA Data and Information

* Global:
o Weekly Weather and Crop Bulletin
o World Agricultural Supply and Demand Estimates
(World Agricultural Outlook Board)
* United States:
o County-level Crop Maps (National Agricultural Statistics Service)
o National, State, and County Agricultural Statistics
(National Agricultural Statistics Service)
o U.S. Drought Monitor

www.pecad.fas.usda.gov...


AND NASA:


Agriculture: OVERVIEW

The Agriculture Data and Information Services Center (DISC) is part of the NASA Earth Science Division Applied Sciences Program,...

Project Summary

Monitoring global agricultural crop conditions during the growing season and estimating potential seasonal production are critically important for market development of U. S. agricultural products and for global food security. Two major operational users of satellite remote sensing for global crop monitoring are the U. S. Department of Agriculture (USDA) Foreign Agricultural Service (FAS) and the U.N. World Food Program (WFP). The primary goal of FAS is to improve foreign market access for U.S. agricultural products. The WFP uses food to meet emergency needs and to support economic and social development. Both use global agricultural decision support systems that can integrate and synthesize a variety of data sources to provide accurate and timely information on global crop conditions.
Project Goals

1. Integrate relevant NASA Earth Science data into modeling and operational systems to enhance the accuracy and timely assessments of global agricultural crop conditions.
2. Provide NASA satellite data-based, operational solutions to the USDA FAS and UN WFP, by leveraging existing capabilities of these two user organizations and of the GES DISC.

Project Tasks

1. Develop agriculture-oriented land products based on MODIS and TRMM.
2. Develop agriculture-oriented hydrologic products based on TRMM and other satellites.
3. Generate MODIS 250-m, 10-Day composite surface reflectance product.
4. Develop Agricultural Information System (AIS) based on GES DISC's Giovanni data exploration and analysis tool.
5. Integrate NASA products into USDA FAS Decision Support System.
6. Integrate NASA products into UN WFP Decision Support System.

disc.sci.gsfc.nasa.gov...



posted on May, 13 2011 @ 12:19 PM
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crimevelvet,

Thank you for that most informative post!
As usual, you bring a great wealth of knowledge to the table!

The satellites! Hello, they are even spying on the food.



posted on May, 13 2011 @ 12:45 PM
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Originally posted by crimvelvetAnd then there is the satellite survellance system...
One of the farmers mentioned his daughter had a summer job monitoring satellite picts and running programs to determine crop yield. She said you could just about read a trucks license plate!


Yeah, this is true not only do they do it via satellite but with rovers and actual inspections and counting….

There was a local ad for summer employment that entailed driving around the county and counting herds of cattle for the USDA. You can also see the USDA trucks in the area taking photos of farms and fields.

That's not even the worst; the government is bad enough but it’s when you have Monsanto guys going out into the fields (trespassing BTW) and taking samples to make sure you aren't benefiting from their GMO without giving them their money.

It sucks when the guy across the road has planted GMO and you have organic and the pollen gets mixed in and the sampler goes off -- they file court actions and the small guy basically has to prove a negative which can be very expensive for them.

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posted on May, 14 2011 @ 11:24 AM
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So you would let victims starve while you sit on top of a large supply of food nearby? You would punish innocent victims because you have an issue with the government helping disaster victims survive?


OH, Give it a break.



The G.D. government is all about CYA and protecting their own turf not about helping people. We had a very bad Hurricane hit my area and everyone in the community got together cleared the roads and helped each other. We also provides supply for Katrina and those supply WERE TURNED BACK!

Katrina is a classic example of how bad central government control is!

WORLD government control is even WORSE!


Hurricane Katrina - FEMA Failures Reported in Major Media



FEMA refuses hundreds of personnel, dozens of vehicles - Chicago Tribune, 9/2/05
www.chicagotribune.com...

FEMA won't let Red Cross deliver food - Pittsburgh Post-Gazette, 9/3/05
www.post-gazette.com...

FEMA fails to utilize Navy ship with 600-bed hospital on board - Chicago Tribune, 9/4/05
www.chicagotribune.com...

FEMA turns away state-of-the-art mobile hospital from Univ. of North Carolina - CNN, 9/5/05
edition.cnn.com...

FEMA won't accept Amtrak's help in evacuations - Financial Times, 9/5/05
news.ft.com...

FEMA rejects skills of firefighters, instructs them to hand out fliers - Salt Lake Tribune, 9/6/05
www.sltrib.com...

FEMA turns back Wal-Mart supply trucks - New York Times, 9/6/05
www.nytimes.com...

FEMA prevents Coast Guard from delivering diesel fuel - New York Times, 9/6/05
www.nytimes.com...

FEMA blocks 500-boat citizen flotilla from delivering aid - News Sentinel, 9/8/05
www.fortwayne.com...

FEMA asks media not to take pictures of dead - Washington Post, 9/8/05
www.washingtonpost.com...

FEMA turns back German government plane loaded with 15 tons of food - Spiegel, 9/12/05
service.spiegel.de...

FEMA prevents MDs from treating dying people around them because not "federalized" - NY Times, 9/17/05
www.nytimes.com...

FEMA veteran states bosses ignored his critical warnings in days prior to hurricane - CNN, 9/18/05
www.cnn.com...

FEMA diverts money for hurricane disaster study to future bridge options - CNN, 9/18/05
www.cnn.com...

FEMA: "First Responders Urged Not To Respond" Unless Dispatched - FEMA's own website
www.fema.gov...


More Resources

For a highly revealing personal account by two emergency medical personnel who were participating in a conference in New Orleans at the time of the hurricane, see their gripping story at www.truthout.org... The mainstream media has largely avoided reporting devastating personal stories which reveal all that is being covered up. For more on how corporate ownership of the media blocks key stories like this, see www.WantToKnow.info...

For those who are ready to go even deeper, first read FEMA's own description of its founding here. Then, learn the deeper aspects of FEMA's shady beginnings at en.wikipedia.org... Finally, for Online Journal's revealing analysis article "New Orleans: Dress rehearsal for lockdown of America" see: www.onlinejournal.com...

www.wanttoknow.info...



posted on May, 14 2011 @ 12:15 PM
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To me, it seems, FEMA is dong something similar. confiscate the food, so everyone else around me starves to eath, so they themselvesd, meer humans like you and me, can live. how screwed up a deal is that! in america, yuor suposed ot have the right of private property* so no one can take yuor stuff! thast the seperation of our democracy and communism. under socialsim, after WWII, in gemany, thier bill of rights, states the government can take public land..but for the good of the commonwealth* FEMA seems to be acting desperate over something...wonder what they know is coming our way...yuor land means yuor land and whats on it* thier curbing it, so they can strip it away from you. its illegal and wrong.


The people who set up FEMA and the people who were responsible for "Bankrolling the Bolshevik Revolution" are the same.



FEMA seems to be acting desperate over something....



FEMA knows darn well we have been set up for massive starvation in the near future. A replay of The Ukraine Famine: Eliminating An 'Enemy' Class Through Collectivization to be exact.

You can not implement United Nation's Agenda 21 without first destroying the US independent Farmer (full text of Agenda 21)

They tried to slip Agenda 21 through Congress as The Wildlands Project (UN Biodiversity treaty) It would have crowded all of us into a tiny little portion of the USA: see the green areas on the MAP

As usual just because the bills did not pass in 2005 does not mean they have given up. Check out:

The Rewilding Institute: rewilding.org...

Sientific American Article: www.sciamdigital.com...

Coyote Attacks: www.varmintal.com...

Panther sightings and Gov't denial: rule-303.blogspot.com...

Rewilding America: resourceclearinghouse.blogspot.com...

' The Socialist Revolution in the US cannot take place because there are too many small independent farmers there. Those people are the stability factor. We here in Russia must hurry while our government is stupid enough to not encourage and support the independent farmership.' V. Lenin, the founder of the Russian Revolution



And so we just had the Food Safety Modernization Act passed during the lame duck session. It spells the death of the independent farmer.

www.forbes.com...

www.examiner.com...

As Doreen said in disgust:

LET THEM EAT GRASS!!!




The idiots in the city would not support farmers as we tried to protect THEIR food supply, WHY in the name of the ninth level of Hades should I turn around and sacrifice for those same selfish idiots??


When less than 1% of the population is engaged in feeding the entire population and those being fed don’t actively, and positively support the one percent, then the 99% should be happy when they are left to feed themselves....When Marie Antoinette was told that the peasants were threatening revolt because they had no bread, she said, “Let them eat cake.” When we are faced with rampant hunger because of the regulatory, financial, trade and foreign policies of the past 100 or so years, those of us who have been crying from the roof tops for people to take an interest in what really sustains them may be very well justified in saying, “Let them eat grass.” Doreen Hannes



posted on May, 14 2011 @ 01:12 PM
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See this is where a person considered on the left end of the spectrum is proud to have Republicans and Libertarians as part of his brotherhood....


I agree. If we sit down and talk we find we actually want the same things, a good life for all. It is only the Meglomaniacs who are the real problem.

I some times think that Karl Marx, was playing a collossal joke on humanity because communism in its real life incarnations always seems to be a step back into feudalism with serfs who can not own property and a "nobility" who controls ALL the property. Given human nature "The withering away of the state" - the promised "heaven" will never happen.

The turds always seem to rise to the top no matter what the political system, so the best system is one that gives normal people the most control over their government and the least amount of restriction on their freedom. The Meglomaniacs of course want as much control as they can steal or trick from the people.

They have no problem lying and calling themselves "socialists" or "progressives" or "communists"

Actually "socialism" or more correctly collectivism suits them down to the ground.

Think about it The collectivist motto is "The greatest good for the greatest number." Isn't this what this thread is all about? That the needs of the group is more important than the individual???

But lets follow that to its final conclusion. WHO is the largest group?

The family - FEMA says NO!
The town? - FEMA says NO!
The state? - FEMA says NO!

The biggest group is the Nation so therefore the NATION's well being, NOT that of the people is most important. Isn't this the actual thought behind Obama's statement "Nothing More Important" Than A Government Job That the Government is the all important group???

When politicians start claiming to derive their authority from any source other than the people, it is going to leads to the destruction of our freedom. Once the principle is established that our rights flow FROM the government, it opens the door for more edicts, until our freedom is gone. If we accept that ANY group has the right to do things that individuals alone do not have the right to do, then we have just accepted the concept that rights are not intrinsic to the individual and that they originate with the government. THIS is the hidden trap within feel good socialism because if we accept the group is more important than the individual then we are on the road to the tyranny the Powers That Be have planned for us.



posted on May, 26 2011 @ 06:57 PM
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Originally posted by burntheships
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While I would agree that it is the job the government has taken upon themselves, clearly they
have failed in delivering - case in point - as it is made here in the video - Katrina.

I will not forget the pics of George Bush eating cake with McCain at a big birithday bash
while Katrinas floods ravaged on.


I don't think this is a case of the Government taking it upon themselves and FAILING to deliver.

I tend to think it's a case of them taking it upon themselves and INTENTIONALLY not delivering.

More about control than ineptness.

IMO


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