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Originally posted by mishigas
reply to post by Liquesence
It's the principle involved in allowing other flags (or signs or banners) to be flown if someone should so desire.
Yeah? So? Exactly which other groups have petitioned to fly their flag?
Originally posted by Thermo Klein
is anyone gonna actually read the link?? come on...
The concern that we have in this situation is that, whether a flag hanging on a bridge [not OTORA’s proposal], or a monument placed within a park and ride lot [the proposal], we would be placed in a position of having to permit all forms of expression as encroachments in the right of way if we were to allow yours. As such, the department has determined that the state highway system is not a forum for public expression except as expressly allowed.
the department has determined that the state highway system is not a forum for public expression
So they don't want to allow people putting up all sorts of things on the state highway system...
Originally posted by mishigas
reply to post by Liquesence
It's the principle involved in allowing other flags (or signs or banners) to be flown if someone should so desire.
Yeah? So? Exactly which other groups have petitioned to fly their flag?
I have no idea. As far as i know, none.
Keyword: IF. If they allow they flag to be flown they also have to allow other things to be flown/displayed; they do not want other things to be flown/displayed because it's not a public forum, therefore they prohibit the flag to be flown.
Plus, this post:
Originally posted by Thermo Klein
is anyone gonna actually read the link?? come on...
The concern that we have in this situation is that, whether a flag hanging on a bridge [not OTORA’s proposal], or a monument placed within a park and ride lot [the proposal], we would be placed in a position of having to permit all forms of expression as encroachments in the right of way if we were to allow yours. As such, the department has determined that the state highway system is not a forum for public expression except as expressly allowed.
the department has determined that the state highway system is not a forum for public expression
So they don't want to allow people putting up all sorts of things on the state highway system...
As such, the department has determined that the state highway system is not a forum for public expression except as expressly allowed..
Amy Courtney, 28, and Cassandra Brown, 33, draped banners on state Highway 17 overpasses in Scotts Valley. One asked “Are you buying this war?” The other, a mile away, asked “At what cost?” Their signs were removed, but an American flag somebody else posted was left.
Originally posted by ThinkingCap
reply to post by mishigas
Maybe CalTrans understands that the US flag is a creepy Masonic design like us ATSers.
We should petition for a new flag.
Originally posted by Irish614
This is absolutely ludicrous. Someone should go have their car painted as the American Flag.
Originally posted by desert
Originally posted by Irish614
This is absolutely ludicrous. Someone should go have their car painted as the American Flag.
We beat you to it. Someone in California already did that. Go to this link to see a car painted like the American Flag in California.
Proud American Flag Car in California
Originally posted by mishigas
reply to post by negativenihil
Originally posted by 31Bravo
How can we be told that flying the U.S. flag is inappropriate during a funeral of a service member.
But see - we're not being told this. We're being told that it's inappropriate to fly the flag from highway signs and overpasses.
sigh.
No, we're not being told that at all. Please read the article carefully.:shk:
Here in NH, there are many flags and signs welcoming our troops home, or wishing for the safe return of a loved son, brother, or whatever, on highway overpasses. NOBODY has ever complained, and people actually clean up after themselves. Maybe it has to do with our spirit and state logo, "Live Free or Die"!
Originally posted by mishigas
This boggles my mind. Only in California could madness like this happen.. The Dept. of Transportation in that state nixed the display of the American flag at a memorial dedicated to our servicemen and the military. The panel that made the decision demanded "viewpoint neutrality". What the hell is that, and how can you detect and enforce it???
Can someone please tell me what world we live in when we cannot erect our own American flag because it might upset some people?
In the town of Orcutt, California, thousands of dollars in donations have been gathered to create a monument to fallen soldiers and the branches of our military. The memorial would go between "a highway exit and a park-and-ride lot;" a pole would rise out of the center and display the American flag.
The California Department of Transportation was okay with the plan... that is, until it was revealed that our nation's flag would be flying. When CalTrans heard, they stymied the effort, declaring the display of an American flag an "impermissible act of “public expression.”"
The panel that ruled that the American flag could not be displayed demanded "viewpoint neutrality" at the monument. In other words, they declared it illegal to solely fly the US flag, stating that other flags must also have the right to be flown at the memorial, be it "the British flag, the Nazi flag, or the Jolly Rogers."
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