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Government Services - Damaging America's Youth - Personal Opinions Wanted

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posted on May, 10 2011 @ 10:17 PM
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I was talking this out with my friend the other day and the way I see it is that these "Services" that our government provides do way more harm than good for us.

Let me name one and why:

- Child Services: This can be a great thing. Keyword is can. The same people who stop child abuse also tear apart families based on a parents mistake. For example if a kid wonders out of the house into the street at midnight then the kid is going to get taken away from the Parent. Isn't it bad enough for the Parent knowing that their kid could have died? We have people who don't care about their kids and then we have people who make honest mistakes. Can't we use common sense and tell the two apart? Obviously we need the governments help here. A kid growing up without his parents is always a good thing.

Alright now it's your turn. Name a "Service" that does more harm than good.

I'd love to hear Opinions on this. I truly think that our governments actions are wrong. If we ruin one life and fix three, we still ruined one life.

Now if you disagree and think that we need a Service that is mentioned in this thread please explain why you think this.

The only rule I have (If I can make one?) is that we keep this Civil. If you disagree with a Member (or me
) just say so. Don't be rude.

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posted on May, 10 2011 @ 10:20 PM
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How about a service that makes the government follow the Constitution?

How many lives would that fix?

A service that does more harm than good.... DEFINITELY THE IRS!!!!!

~Namaste



posted on May, 10 2011 @ 10:22 PM
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How about a service that makes the government follow the Constitution?


I'm not sure if this is possible. XD

They do a good enough job of twisting the constitution to what they want anyways.



A service that does more harm than good.... DEFINITELY THE IRS!!!!!


Can you give a little explanation as to why you think this? I mean we need taxes right?

Edit: Excuse any grammar mistakes untill in the morning with me. It's getting late here and this thread idea popped into my head a few minutes ago as I was reading a thread about some 7th grader who ruined his life by being honest.
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posted on May, 10 2011 @ 10:25 PM
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damaging services.

welfare
food stamps

they all create dependency and this harmful to the individuals

think of it this way its like when you domesticate animals and you turn them loose in the wild they will die.

thats my opinion and im stickin to it.



posted on May, 10 2011 @ 10:30 PM
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welfare food stamps they all create dependency and this harmful to the individuals


Now this is true but to play devil's advocate here, back when the economy went into the crapper back in '08 my parents lost their jobs. They had to get unemployment checks. It too can create a dependency for some people.

Luckily my parents never actually became dependent on them too much and have gotten back on their feet. Does it do more harm than good though? IDK

(Unemployment money falls under welfare right? XD I'm not quite sure.)
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posted on May, 10 2011 @ 10:31 PM
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HEALTH CARE

Or at least in Canada. They claim it's 'free' but you end up spending thousands of dollars travelling around to be told you need a simple needle or a minor medication. >



posted on May, 10 2011 @ 10:32 PM
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for every pair like your parents there are thousands who dont.

and thats a problem there are over 40 million people on welfare alone and that is a huge problem

if someone were to cut off that government check most would starve to death.



posted on May, 10 2011 @ 10:34 PM
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Originally posted by drew1749
reply to post by SonOfTheLawOfOne
 




How about a service that makes the government follow the Constitution?


I'm not sure if this is possible. XD

They do a good enough job of twisting the constitution to what they want anyways.



A service that does more harm than good.... DEFINITELY THE IRS!!!!!


Can you give a little explanation as to why you think this? I mean we need taxes right?

Edit: Excuse any grammar mistakes untill in the morning with me. It's getting late here and this thread idea popped into my head a few minutes ago as I was reading a thread about some 7th grader who ruined his life by being honest.
edit on 5/10/2011 by drew1749 because: (no reason given)


Here is one good reason we don't need the IRS...

Why an Income Tax is Not Necessary
to Fund the U.S. Government......www.devvy.com...



posted on May, 10 2011 @ 10:35 PM
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Originally posted by Leadhounds
HEALTH CARE

Or at least in Canada. They claim it's 'free' but you end up spending thousands of dollars travelling around to be told you need a simple needle or a minor medication. >


I have a Canadian friend who told me that he hasn't been to the doctor in years. It shocked me because here in America I go at least once every 6 months. For this or that but still.

It shocks me that Heath Care is so weird in Canada. But I'm not educated on that topic nor is it really what this thread is about. PM me if you want to educate me on the Canadian Health Care System.



posted on May, 10 2011 @ 10:36 PM
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The CIA and their illegal drug distribution...



posted on May, 10 2011 @ 10:37 PM
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Originally posted by neo96
reply to post by drew1749
 


for every pair like your parents there are thousands who dont.

and thats a problem there are over 40 million people on welfare alone and that is a huge problem

if someone were to cut off that government check most would starve to death.


Ima start making a checklist to put on my Petition of things the next President needs to cut. lol

Actually it probably doesn't work like that. I'm just too tired to remember. Probably starts with Congress. But still.



posted on May, 10 2011 @ 10:39 PM
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Originally posted by Caji316
The CIA and their illegal drug distribution...


I've never heard of this. Are you talking about the people who pretend to sell drugs to catch the dealers?

Please link me some proof of this. I have the opposite stance on the CIA. I think it does more good than harm.

Although it doesn't change the facts.

If we harm one life to save three, we've still harmed one life.



posted on May, 10 2011 @ 10:44 PM
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Originally posted by drew1749

Originally posted by Caji316
The CIA and their illegal drug distribution...


I've never heard of this. Are you talking about the people who pretend to sell drugs to catch the dealers?

Please link me some proof of this. I have the opposite stance on the CIA. I think it does more good than harm.

Although it doesn't change the facts.

If we harm one life to save three, we've still harmed one life.


would you take wikipedia as a valid source?? and link??



posted on May, 10 2011 @ 10:45 PM
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BEcause CIA running drugs happened under Reagan Bush the father and Clinton. I remember someone called it Clinton coke lines.



posted on May, 10 2011 @ 10:47 PM
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would you take wikipedia as a valid source?? and link??


If it had citations. Then yes.

PM me the link or send it here. Whatever you want. Let's not derail this topic though.

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I think in some ways the cops do more harm than good. Then again we need cops to remain order in society.



posted on May, 10 2011 @ 10:47 PM
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Please link me some proof of this. I have the opposite stance on the CIA. I think it does more good than harm


Have you heard of MKULTRA?



posted on May, 10 2011 @ 10:49 PM
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Alrighht I won;t derail the thread But I just didn;t want a comment like that to slide.



posted on May, 10 2011 @ 10:52 PM
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I stared you. Good point. Okay moving on.

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I think this thread has made a valid point so far and I hope many more will comment on this topic.

We don't need big brother. We don't need the government's help.



posted on May, 10 2011 @ 11:11 PM
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The government needs to step up with social services. There is so much that is underfunded and nonexistent. True universal healthcare, free college education, guaranteed utilities, public transportation, etc etc. The government needs to get bigger and become more socialist. We also need to toss the far right conservatives, especially the reactionary ones like the Tea Party.



posted on May, 10 2011 @ 11:48 PM
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How about we do away with the government services which bailout to the tune of billions, with CORPORATE WELFARE. If we made the bottomless 'black budget' disclose what they were really doing, we wouldn't feel so mad at people in poverty with little kids, who fell on hard times. (As if a normal human who is NOT a PSYCHOPATH could feel mad at them.)
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