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Originally posted by Ultraman2011
If you ever grow up and have a child that is killed in this fashion, I doubt you would feel the same way. It's so easy to be a high brow intellectual when you are not personally affected. I always look at things from the "Victims" (and their families view) and ask myself what I would consider justice. I would be amazed, truly amazed, if you said this comment after your little girl was killed by a scum-bag (oh, officer, it's okay, he was imprisoned himself..poor babe!). Get real!!!
Originally posted by Ultraman2011
This isn't about "cooling the fire." Its about justice, what is right, and putting the fire out. You are looking at it as someone acting out in rage and walking around for years with anger.
I am looking at it as easing the suffering, making the world a better place, and bringing closer to the situation.
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Originally posted by frozenspark
Originally posted by sepermeru
I choose to remain different from evil, rather than emulate it.
Why would you want to be like him in any way?
Well, I don't see it that way. First, I would not be like him because (granted he is proven to be guilty beyond any reasonable doubt) I would not be torturing an innocent little girl. We would be ending a life of someone who doesn't deserve the air he breathes. Second of all, such harsh treatment of these devils will send out a strong message to any possible future sickos.
Originally posted by BillfromCovina
....You talk about a problem with genetics but call me the narcissist. Who is the one projecting? You must feel some guilt or feel my original post applies to you.
Originally posted by Ultraman2011
reply to post by BillfromCovina
Singing songs to Pedophiles and holding hands certainly isn't going to make the world a better place. Holding people accountable for their actions and letting others see what might happen to them, might.
I really don't care if the poor baby had a bad childhood. Their are tons of people that have had horrible upbringings and have a good reason to have a beef with the world. They don't go kill children and then use their background as an excuse. Some of them even go on to do great things, and use their background as motivation to make the world a better place.
If I were the parents of that child, and you were doling out justice, I would lose all confidence in the justice system and society.
Originally posted by unityemissions
Originally posted by BillfromCovina
....You talk about a problem with genetics but call me the narcissist. Who is the one projecting? You must feel some guilt or feel my original post applies to you.
?!?!
Does anyone else see how this makes no sense whatsoever?
If you are unable to admit that genetics plays a role in one's behavior, so be it. That's not my deal. It's scientifically proven.
Once again. Grow up! We're not all created equal. That idiotic myth has done much harm for our species.
Narcissism is the personality trait of egotism, vanity, conceit, or simple selfishness. Applied to a social group, it is sometimes used to denote ELITISM or an indifference to the plight of others.
Originally posted by ViperChili
Originally posted by sepermeru
I choose to remain different from evil, rather than emulate it.
Why would you want to be like him in any way?
Executing him in the most horrific way imaginable wouldn't make someone the same as this guy.
Punishment vs a psychopathic act are 2 entirely different things.
Originally posted by BillfromCovina
Where is the justice for the boy who was possibly molested, abused and neglected all his life and struggled with these problems? Your solutions are to now to torture and kill him and then send him to your hell for eternity?
There is no closure for the victims family until they forgive and learn to love the accused. Only love stops ill will and hatred. Yes, even love a demon.
Originally posted by BillfromCovina
Almost everyone posting on this thread seems to be suffering from the same disease as the accused murderer. This is the disease of self. He had no or very little empathy for his victim. He is imprisoned in himself.
Let me show you how to do it. When he was young child someone may have molested him. He may have grown up in a religious family and thought he was evil because of his desires. He doesn't have a clue of how to stop because of his understanding. Just another suffering child who needs help.
Originally posted by MrWendal
It is because people like you who think that Monsters like this guy can be helped are the reason our legal system has so many pedophiles walking the streets.
Originally posted by Morningglory
Automatically assuming pedophiles are grown up victims is not the complete picture and a real slap in the face to survivors of childhood sexual abuse who never abuse anyone. I would say pedophiles are most likely sociopaths it really doesn't matter if they were sexually abused or not they would be sociopaths either way.
There's a monster in my family. This individual physically/sexually abused women, children, men, animals, insects etc. I wouldn't say he is a pedo I would say he is an out of control sociopath capable of a whole smorgasbord of violence.
This family member was in therapy from the age of 6 to 12. Therapy simply made him more secretive of his behavior. It offered him a new challenge which he craved. Therapy in no way cured him instead it made him more cunning and manipulative.
Empathy doesn't work for these people you can't love the badness out of them. 5 good wives tried with my relative. He always picked good women to marry/victimize. While I understand your feelings that love can cure all I'm afraid you're setting yourself up the same way my relatives ex-wives did.
You have to be touched by love first to be cured by it. Love for these people is an alien emotion. I have known people who were sexually abused as children yet they have the ability to love others. Sometimes they just can't love themselves. No I don't buy the old excuse that sexual abuse alone set them on their violent path there is something more.