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Doom : More Actual Doom, Live Actual Doom, and Doom On You...

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posted on May, 10 2011 @ 12:57 PM
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This thread is for those people who cannot resist following the doom threads.

Putting it in the Survival Forum specifically because there are actual people out there.

Currently across the country who are in peril and not some nonsense Mayan calendar stuff.



People are actually dying out there in what equals massive disaster survival.


Quote from : Yahoo News : Mississippi River Flooding

VICKSBURG, Miss. – The Mississippi crest rolled past Memphis on Tuesday, going easy on much of the city, yet downriver in the mostly poor, fertile Delta region, floodwaters washed away crops, damaged hundreds of homes and closed casinos key to the state's economy.

In Vicksburg, home of a pivotal Civil War battle, the river was forecast to peak slightly above the record level set during the flood of 1927.

Some places were already several feet underwater and the river wasn't expected to peak here until Saturday.

Wearing rubber boots and watching fish swim up and down his street, William Jefferson stood on a high spot in his neighborhood.

He said hasn't had a hot meal since water started coming into his house a few days ago.


This isn't some silly "doom" thread but actual disaster.


Quote from : Wikipedia : Doomsday

Doomsday may refer to:

* Armageddon, the final battle between the Christ and the Anti-Christ in the Christian New Testament

* End times, a prophesied time of tribulation that would precede the Second Coming of the Messiah in Abrahamic religions

* Last Judgment, the judgment by God of every human who ever lived, according to the Bible and Christian eschatology

* Ragnarök, the ancient Norse prediction of the end of the world

* Pralaya, in Hindu mythology

* Destruction, in Brahma Kumaris religion

* Qayamat, as termed in Islam, the End of universe.

A catastrophic collapse of entire universe with every living and non living creature ever existed would be terminated/dead and on the day of Judgement every creature shall be again brought to life before God (Allah).


That might be what most people think when they think "doom" however it is not what I think.


Quote from : Wikipedia : Disaster

A disaster is a natural or man-made hazard that has come to fruition, resulting in an event of substantial extent causing significant physical damage or destruction, loss of life, or drastic change to the environment.

A disaster can be ostensively defined as any tragic event with great loss stemming from events such as earthquakes, floods, catastrophic accidents, fires, or explosions.

In contemporary academia, disasters are seen as the consequence of inappropriately managed risk.

These risks are the product of hazards and vulnerability.

Hazards that strike in areas with low vulnerability are not considered a disaster, as is the case in uninhabited regions.

Developing countries suffer the greatest costs when a disaster hits – more than 95 percent of all deaths caused by disasters occur in developing countries, and losses due to natural disasters are 20 times greater (as a percentage of GDP) in developing countries than in industrialized countries.


Let us not focus on the "left" or the "right" but on the actual scenes of loss.



This thread is in essence counter to all of those silly "doom predictions".

Because it is about actual incidents, disasters, and survival training.

So, if you cannot hack it, by actually talking about disaster, do not bother.


Quote from : F.E.M.A. : Six Disaster Recovery Centers Open in Four Alabama Counties

ATLANTA – Six disaster recovery centers have opened in four Alabama counties to help those whose homes or businesses were affected by recent storms and tornadoes.

The centers will be open from 7 a.m. to 7 p.m. seven days a week until further notice.

Representatives from the Federal Emergency Management Agency, Alabama Emergency Management Agency and other agencies will be at the centers to explain assistance programs and help survivors apply for disaster aid.


A host of tornadoes has gone on all throughout the Eastern seaboard.


Quote from : F.E.M.A. : Tennessee Disaster Survivors: Get The Facts About Disaster Assistance

NASHVILLE, Tenn. -- Following a disaster, survivors sometimes hear inaccurate, incomplete or misleading information about disaster assistance.

The Tennessee Emergency Management Agency and the Federal Emergency Management Agency urge Tennesseans in the 10 counties affected by recent tornadoes, severe storms and flooding to get the facts now from TEMA and FEMA.

The counties designated for federal assistance due to the storms of April 25-28, 2011 are Bledsoe, Bradley, Cocke, Greene, Hamilton, Johnson, McMinn, Monroe, Rhea, and Washington.

“We don’t want anyone to miss out on available assistance because of wrong information,” said Jim Bassham, director of TEMA.

FEMA Federal Coordinating Officer W. Montague Winfield stressed that anyone with damages in the designated counties should apply for assistance.

“The only way to ensure you get the help you are entitled to is to register with FEMA,” he said.


If only you care about the disasters for once instead of sensationalism tied to it.


Quote from : F.E.M.A. : Southern Storms: Overview Of Response And Support Efforts By FEMA And The Federal Government

*Since the deadly tornadoes first struck parts of the country last week, the federal government has been in constant contact with all of the impacted states as they responded to and began recovery efforts from these devastating storms.

At the request of the respective governors, FEMA currently has personnel on the ground in Alabama, Georgia, Mississippi, Kentucky, Tennessee and Virginia, and commodities strategically pre-positioned in the region to support the states.

Today, Department of Homeland Security Secretary Napolitano, Housing and Urban Development Secretary Donovan, Agriculture Secretary Vilsack, Small Business Administrator Mills, and FEMA Administrator Fugate, along with American Red Cross President and CEO Gail McGovern, traveled to Alabama and Mississippi to survey the damage and meet with state and local officials.

The following timeline provides an overview of these and other federal activities, to date, to support the impacted states, families and communities.*

Sunday, May 1st:

* President Obama Cabinet members Secretary Napolitano, Secretary Donovan, Secretary Vilsack join Administrator Fugate, Small Business Administration Administrator Mills, American Red Cross President and CEO Gail McGovern and other state and local officials to tour affected areas in Birmingham, Alabama and Smithville, Mississippi.

* Tonight, the President declared a major disaster for the State of Tennessee and ordered Federal aid to supplement State and local recovery efforts in the area struck by severe storms, tornadoes, straight-line winds, and associated flooding during the period of April 25-28, 2011.

* Six disaster recovery centers (DRCs) open. These are staffed by state, voluntary agency and federal personnel to help those whose homes or businesses were affected by recent storms and tornadoes. The centers will be open from 7 a.m. to 7 p.m. seven days a week until further notice. At the DRCs, representatives from FEMA, state and other agencies meet one on one with disaster survivors, explain assistance programs and help survivors apply for disaster aid.

* More than 150 inspectors are on the ground in Alabama, Mississippi and Georgia assessing damages in order to help applicants to receive financial assistance. The number of field inspectors is expected to increase rapidly over the next several days.

* FEMA Community Relations (CR) personnel are on the ground in Mississippi, joining CR teams already deployed previously to Georgia and Alabama, to meet with disaster survivors to explain the assistance available and to help survivors register for assistance.

* National Voluntary Organizations Active in Disaster (National VOAD) member organizations such as American Red Cross, Salvation Army, Convoy of Hope, and many others continue to be heavily involved in the disaster response by providing assistance to disaster survivors. The Red Cross Safe and Well secure website provides a way for people to find information on people affected by the storms. To register, visit www.redcross.org home page.

* The Alabama Governor's Office of Faith Based and Community Initiatives and Mississippi Commission for Volunteer Service have set up official web portals to help with coordinating donations and volunteers. Cash is the preferred method of donation in order to ensure that disaster survivors get the services and supplies they need quickly.


This thread is dedicated to those survivors and the families who have lost loved ones.

Not to mention floods in Mississippi, fires in California, and earthquakes around the world.

There is nothing funny whatsoever about these disasters.

Of course there may be Government abuses during times of crisis just as there are deaths.

Am I saying there is some conspiracy tied to all of these incidents?

No.

But all of these individual events leads to a large numbers of things happening at once.

F.E.M.A., or the Federal Emergency Management Agency is mobilizing.

People, funds, and disaster relief is on the way to those sections of our country.

This being said I am more interested in hearing about what others are doing to help.

Then hearing about conspiracy about the events which have killed countless people.

If you're in one of those particular locations where disaster has struck my sympathy is with you.

If you've lost loved ones due to these disasters my heart goes out to you.

If you know someone on ATS who might have been affected I want to hear about it.

This thread is again about actual survival what people are doing afterwards to pick up the pieces of their lives, what people did before hand to secure their homes and lives, and any and all pictures you might want to put in here of the disasters.

Let us focus positive energy on talking about dire circumstances instead of trivializing it.

If you know of any areas I have not already outlined please add to the information.




posted on May, 10 2011 @ 01:02 PM
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Explanation: S&F!

Personal Disclosure: Bump for Justice!



posted on May, 10 2011 @ 01:03 PM
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so basically were doomed



posted on May, 10 2011 @ 01:09 PM
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Thank you.


Originally posted by HisMajesty
so basically were doomed


Do not be a do-do.

Ice Age watermelon scene


We're only doomed if we do not stop and think.



posted on May, 10 2011 @ 01:12 PM
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Ok first paragraph, how do you continue to see each massive, major event NOT part of the whole 2012 thing???
Oh wait the msm is telling people and interjecting information that is a flat out lie to keep the zoo animals from raging in their cages and bustin the place up.



posted on May, 10 2011 @ 01:20 PM
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Kind of sheds some light on why FEMA was ordering all those provisions that people were worrying about six months ago.

So . . . someone will tell you that FEMA knew about the floods in advance because HAARP and the Rothschild's are responsible.

Others might just point to record snowfall amounts and reasonably accurate predictions of the epic rains that have been flooding the Mississippi.

Still good thread.



posted on May, 10 2011 @ 01:21 PM
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Originally posted by antar
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Ok first paragraph, how do you continue to see each massive, major event NOT part of the whole 2012 thing???
Oh wait the msm is telling people and interjecting information that is a flat out lie to keep the zoo animals from raging in their cages and bustin the place up.


Great question.

Understanding the Appeal of Apocalyptic and other Doom’s Day Styled Predictions and Prophecies

My excellent friend, ProtoplasmicTraveler, already wrote a thread explaining that.

Which inspired me to write a thread like this one.

Instead of focusing on the "conspiracy" angle I'm focusing on the disaster.

SpartanKingLeonidas reply to ProtoplasmicTraveler

My one comment in his thread is seen above.

If anything, Government, religion, and corporations are acting in tandem.

If anything, Government, religion, and corporations are acting in collusion.

If anything, Government, religion, and corporations are acting in conspiracy.

Not to make these events happen necessarily.

But to take advantage of them when they do happen and through communication.


The Cult of the Presidency: America's Dangerous Devotion to Executive Power




Amazon Review :

The Bush years have given rise to fears of a resurgent Imperial Presidency.

Those fears are justified, but the problem cannot be solved simply by bringing a new administration to power.

In his provocative new book, The Cult of the Presidency, Gene Healy argues that the fault lies not in our leaders but in ourselves.

When our scholars lionize presidents who break free from constitutional restraints, when our columnists and talking heads repeatedly call upon the "commander in chief " to dream great dreams and seek the power to achieve them--when voters look to the president for salvation from all problems great and small--should we really be surprised that the presidency has burst its constitutional bonds and grown powerful enough to threaten American liberty?

The Cult of the Presidency takes a step back from the ongoing red team/blue team combat and shows that, at bottom, conservatives and liberals agree on the boundless nature of presidential responsibility.

For both camps, it is the president's job to grow the economy, teach our children well, provide seamless protection from terrorist threats, and rescue Americans from spiritual malaise.

Very few Americans seem to think it odd, says Healy, "when presidential candidates talk as if they're running for a job that's a combination of guardian angel, shaman, and supreme warlord of the earth."

Healy takes aim at that unconfined conception of presidential responsibility, identifying it as the source of much of our political woe and some of the gravest threats to our liberties.

If the public expects the president to heal everything that ails us, the president is going to demand--or seize--the power necessary to handle that responsibility.

Interweaving historical scholarship, legal analysis, and trenchant cultural commentary, The Cult of the Presidency traces America's decades-long drift from the Framers' vision for the presidency: a constitutionally constrained chief magistrate charged with faithful execution of the laws.

Restoring that vision will require a Congress and a Court willing to check executive power, but Healy emphasizes that there is no simple legislative or judicial "fix" to the problems of the presidency.

Unless Americans change what we ask of the office--no longer demanding what we should not want and cannot have--we'll get what, in a sense, we deserve.


But this thread is not about some simple and silly conspiracy.

Nor is it about the abuses going on.

But about the survival and lives lost during these disasters.



posted on May, 10 2011 @ 01:22 PM
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Zebulan NC. Tornado jumps a families home.



Wilson, NC



Snowhill, NC tornado damage



Tennessee flooding



before and after pics of the Mississippi flooding:
After & Before

And as for what's going on elsewhere in the world.

Swaying buildings after Japan Earthquake



Japan tsunami vid depicting how a tsunami actually destroys



My heart goes out to those who are living in these areas. I want to especially thank those in Japan who survived the quakes, the tsunami, and the radiation, but still felt the need to donate and help the U.S. during our own disasters. Humanitarianism in true form.

S&F to the OP for giving my brain a break from the puzzles of conspiracy theories, to focus on the fact that we're facing a global shift of some sort whether the Illuminati, Aliens, Elite, or Mad scientists planned it or not.

edit on 10-5-2011 by Mactire because: (no reason given)



posted on May, 10 2011 @ 01:26 PM
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Originally posted by RobertAntonWeishaupt
reply to post by SpartanKingLeonidas
 


Kind of sheds some light on why FEMA was ordering all those provisions that people were worrying about six months ago.

So . . . someone will tell you that FEMA knew about the floods in advance because HAARP and the Rothschild's are responsible.

Others might just point to record snowfall amounts and reasonably accurate predictions of the epic rains that have been flooding the Mississippi.

Still good thread.


For the last month I've been examining all of the disasters going on inside the U.S.

There have been a lot of training, redirection of funds, and provisions.

I am not so certain H.A.A.R.P. has anything to do with it.

It is meant for communications around the world with submarines.

It is an invention of Nikola Tesla.

But if it effects weather in any way it is nothing more than a side-effect.

As for Mississippi and elsewhere our economy is collapsed.

If money, Federally, has been misappropriated, the states are next, and down to county.



posted on May, 10 2011 @ 01:29 PM
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Thank you for posting the videos.

I can see too many people have focused on one area or another.

But too few are seeing the bigger picture across the whole country.

All of these disasters leads many things to happen.

If F.E.M.A. is off of their leash then the next step is Martial Law.

In each state where necessary, guns seized, and people rounded up.

If it is found to be necessary.



posted on May, 10 2011 @ 01:33 PM
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Great thread and timely too, just after I starred and flagged yet another great opening piece from you disaster struck as a power surge led to the dreaded blue computer screen, seconds later in the process of restarting the computer another surge resulted in the same!

Since I rely on it heavily for work, losing my computer even for a few hours could constitute a personal disaster.

Disaster in fact can strike at any time without warning.

It's impossible to be prepared for every contingency, but it's possible to be prepared for most.

Living in Miami, which is an active hurricane zone for the better part of 8 months out of every year, preparing for disaster is part of the culture and way of life.

It takes some money, forethought, and effort, but it pays to be prepared.

Things like batteries, canned goods, bottled water, bandages, bleach, baby formulas and diapers, many of which can be essential in surviving the aftermath of a disaster tend to fly off the shelves when a storm is approaching, for those who waited to the last minute they might not be obtainable at all.

ATM's and Gas Pumps often go down, and sometimes even remain down after power comes up because computers often need to be reprogramed to boot back up and run these things.

Having cash on hand, extra fuel, or all things that can make the difference in comfortably surviving in the aftermath of a disaster or not surviving at all.

Believe it or not I even have a small inflatable raft with a tether in case a large storm surge or tsunami rapidly floods my low lying beach community only a half dozen feet above sea level.

A lot of disasters are very real, natural and sometimes man made, and far too often people aren't prepared for them.

Note to self get a new surge protector and battery backup for computer.



posted on May, 10 2011 @ 01:33 PM
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wonder if they got there BOB of are they are under water??? yes that is cold thing to say but this is cold times we live in where fema where are the survivors, why are some not posting on ats? are they being held in fema camps? yes disaster er SHTF can and does happen and it will be happening for the next month for it still the old man river has yet to hit city's town's down stream, no i had a though what if the New Madrid fault lets loose????



posted on May, 10 2011 @ 02:01 PM
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Yes, the dreaded blue-screen disaster, a nefarious one for sure.

I referenced your thread about doom and gloom in reply to antar.

Disaster can indeed strike at any moment but if you are prepared you will survive it.

This is the mantra I was taught from the young age of 6 years old.

And I'm North of you in Florida, Central East Coast, and never fled due to a hurricane.

I've been in my area now since 1979 and have hunkered down with disaster supplies.

Each and every time.

And come out unscathed.

People seem to think these things will never happen so they do not plan for it.



posted on May, 10 2011 @ 02:06 PM
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Originally posted by bekod
wonder if they got there BOB of are they are under water??? yes that is cold thing to say but this is cold times we live in where fema where are the survivors, why are some not posting on ats? are they being held in fema camps? yes disaster er SHTF can and does happen and it will be happening for the next month for it still the old man river has yet to hit city's town's down stream, no i had a though what if the New Madrid fault lets loose????


If they indeed had a Bug-Out Bag to begin with.

How many people actually prepare for disaster?

Not many indeed and not many prepare for the right disaster.

Bunker 101 : Building Your Bunker, Forget the Bug Out Bag, Make A Fortress

Of course too many people think a disaster is breaking a nail or missing American Idol.



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posted on May, 10 2011 @ 02:22 PM
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SKL, real doom is too messy!

It's much easier to get all worked up over super-mega doom that probably won't happen!

I'd love to comment more, but I've got to get back to the impending richter scale 14 quake about to pop off in Tiawan! Ta-ta!



posted on May, 10 2011 @ 02:24 PM
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Originally posted by Signals
SKL, real doom is too messy!

It's much easier to get all worked up over super-mega doom that probably won't happen!

I'd love to comment more, but I've got to get back to the impending richter scale 14 quake about to pop off in Tiawan! Ta-ta!


So, what you're saying, is people should get their panties in a wad?

About something which might never happen.

And instead follow nonsense threads about lies, half-truths, and propaganda?

Oh, so why stop listening to Government, and why be a conspiracy theorist then?

Saw the impending doom of a 14 on the Richter Scale and thought what nonsense.



posted on May, 10 2011 @ 02:34 PM
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This being said I am more interested in hearing about what others are doing to help.


A tornado went through our town. We were out with the pick-up truck and chain saws as usual clearing the roads. (Standard practice after a hurricane around here) Stopped by the farm up the road to see if they needed help with the animals, places to stay, places for their animals, fence rebuilding.



posted on May, 10 2011 @ 02:38 PM
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Yeah me too...kinda like amps that go to 11.

All sarcasm aside, this is a great idea for a thread. Many should be shown (or reminded) that we already have enough




right here on Earth than to have to dream about...fear...or even wish for more!

However...DOOM can be oddly addictive and powerful. I've been sucked in too (as evidenced in some of my threads).

Is there a self-help or 10 step plan to ween myself from the doom



posted on May, 10 2011 @ 02:41 PM
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Zebulan NC. Tornado jumps a families home.


THAT was WAY too close to home, Literally! It past within a couple miles of my home.



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