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(To christians... ) So.... just hypothetically....what if Jesus returns... (Serious responses only p

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posted on May, 10 2011 @ 12:27 PM
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...to be labelled and identified as a terrorist, insurgent, rebel etc.?



(First read these two quotes....

1. Quote 1...

"I come not to bring peace, but to bring a sword" (Matthew 10:34)



Ask yourselves honestly... will you simply dismiss this as being symbolic or metaporical? Do you think certain christian groups would not have brought this up in their arguments against a certain other prophet?



2. Quote 2...

Then Jesus asked them, "When I sent you without purse, bag or sandals, did you lack anything?" "Nothing," they answered. He said to them, "But now if you have a purse, take it, and also a bag; and if you don't have a sword, sell your cloak and buy one. It is written: `And he was numbered with the transgressors' ; and I tell you that this must be fulfilled in me. Yes, what is written about me is reaching its fulfillment." The disciples said, "See, Lord, here are two swords." "That is enough," he replied. (Luke 22:35-38)



Note that jesus insisted that they buy a sword...and the disciples did not seem surprised upon hearing that, and simply replied that they have two.)

What if it was Mohammad whp said these words?




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ok now, imagine that we are futher in the end times have begun.
Imagine a scenario where current events have escalated. Pakistan has become the next major flashpoint. Islam is continued to be viewed as a threat by both christians and irreligious people.

More regimes are overthrown... the turmoil in the middle east continues.
Current wars continue to grind on with no end in sight. All we see on the MSM are more lies and deceptions by TPTB. Events have occured (perhaps, a major natural disaster or a strange natural phenomena not yet experienced by our generation) that change the way of life as we understand it. Meanwhile, Western and European nations continue to witness the decay of christian culture and the rise of an irreligious national lifestyle.

One of half of the world is a place where societies allow religion to mauled open in the name of "secularism" and "free speech", but in the other half..., those who take up arms for a religious beliefs are labelled as a threat to the civilized world...as "insurgents" or "terrorists". There suddenly appears a skilled guerilla warfare commander... who will be labelled by the MSM as an "islamist terrorist". He will be extremely religious. He will fight for his religious beliefs against a government/ruling authority that is far from religious. He would be portrayed in the media as a typical islamic extremist. Beard, turban, AK, RPG... the works.


And then... this character turns out to be none other than.... Jesus Christ.

How would you all react?

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edit : I had to modify the title. Serious reponses only.
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posted on May, 10 2011 @ 12:35 PM
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I am reminded of a verse in the song Tomorrow Wendy, by Concrete Blonde:


"I told the priest, don't count on any second coming
God got his ass kicked the first time he came down here slumming
He had the balls to come, the gall to die, and then forgive us
No, I don't wonder why, I wonder what he thought it would get us."

www.metrolyrics.com...
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posted on May, 10 2011 @ 12:38 PM
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Ummm... I had intended this thread to be answered by christians. It was not meant to be opposing religion in general.



posted on May, 10 2011 @ 12:40 PM
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If he returns. We each get 5 million dollars to buy guns and kill each other .



posted on May, 10 2011 @ 12:40 PM
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Jesus could return eight minutes from now or at my friend's wedding! Who the f knows ? I know for a fact it will not be on the 21st of May



posted on May, 10 2011 @ 12:40 PM
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Why and how would a ficitonal character return?

In a Comic book?



posted on May, 10 2011 @ 12:42 PM
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Originally posted by TgP3o6
If he returns. We each get 5 million dollars to buy guns and kill each other .


Preach, I'll just hitch a ride on my mother's leg as the lord raptures her up. (she's christian)



posted on May, 10 2011 @ 12:42 PM
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Originally posted by sk0rpi0n
Ummm... I had intended this thread to be answered by christians. It was not meant to be opposing religion in general.



HAHA you can't be serious? You only allow certain types to answer? You do realize you are on the internet and not in church right? If you want only Christians to answer take it to church otherwise all types will answer and have varying opinions.

If this is relation to May 21 why not just add your thoughts to the already existing thread on "what if jesus returns." Its pages long already.


Jesus will not return.....that is my opinion.



posted on May, 10 2011 @ 12:43 PM
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He died along time ago. And last I checked there is no such thing as ressurection, except in fictional texts


 
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posted on May, 10 2011 @ 12:45 PM
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If Jesus does return I hope there's a better game plan this time than get nailed to a cross.

I imagine any living being offering a reliable sense of eternity to other persons would just become instantly powerful; though I imagine he would have to do more than duplicate a few hundred fish this time to beat out some skeptics.



posted on May, 10 2011 @ 12:45 PM
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The Christed 1 is the Christed 1 reguardless.
Good POV

Be well



posted on May, 10 2011 @ 12:47 PM
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Bit of a paradox here. Who's going to believe an armed man that calls himself JC? Anyone? If u say yes then I contend you are a fictional character from southpark


 
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posted on May, 10 2011 @ 12:49 PM
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Welcome to ATS

"You can't always get what you want" Rolling Stones

hypothetically....we have 3 maybe 4 main stream accounts, The Bible, Koran, Book of Mormon, and Tanakh & Talmud if you think Messiah is Jesus, but then you are not Jewish anymore but Christian so its a grey area.

Take your pick, it all ends bad for but a few. Those few are what is different about the books mentioned above. Have a great day and hope I helped.
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posted on May, 10 2011 @ 12:54 PM
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lmao ask yourselves why God would need to use RPGs and AK47 terrorist style to get a job done?

Show me anywhere in the bible he has pulled off such guerilla tactics and I may run off and get myself some as well.

absurd thread...



posted on May, 10 2011 @ 01:13 PM
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"Bit of a paradox here. Who's going to believe an armed man that calls himself JC? Anyone? If u say yes then I contend you are a fictional character from southpark "....


Best post yet in this thread.


The premise of my thread is based on the idea that Jesus would return to slay the anti-chrrist...as believed by BOTH Christians AND muslims.

Both have their own understanding of Jesus...and his role when he will supposedly return... but both also differ on as to how he will return.

Christians, who do not believe in Islam, cannot shrug this away, thinking that Christianity came before... much like how the jews cannot dismiss christianity because their religion came first.

Now, ask yourself.... whats there in the bible that suggests Jesus will return to use violence?



posted on May, 10 2011 @ 01:15 PM
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When Jesus returns, there will not be time for choosing sides. He will kill over 250 million people within the first day. Read my sig ↓ for more details.

Jesus is not returning as a lamb to die. He will return as a King to rule....by killing all the opposition. Hope your on the right side guys and gals.



posted on May, 10 2011 @ 01:20 PM
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He will return as a King to rule....by killing all the opposition.


Islam does not doubt that he will return to "kill the opposition" (No doubt Jesus had a use for violence, basis the sword verses of Jesus).

My question is... who are the opposition??

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posted on May, 10 2011 @ 01:27 PM
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Oh give the OP a break. He said "please". He/she obviously was interested in the Christian point of view on a Christian subject. I'm atheist as can be, but he was polite and asked nicely and it wasn't intended as an attack thread on opposing points of view. What is wrong with a community that can't respect a simple request like that once in awhile.?



posted on May, 10 2011 @ 01:30 PM
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The thing is, there are only two groups that believe that Jesus was the "anointed one" who will return to kill an "anti-christ" character. So obviously, my thread was aimed at specific groups.
Which is why the idea of the thread involves this figure returning to be percieved as a rather reviled sterotype.

Remember, Jesus said he would come as a thief in the night ... I interpret this to mean, he said he would return in secret.



posted on May, 10 2011 @ 01:32 PM
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Me thinks ye don't understand what he meant by..." i came not to bring peace, but a sword"

IF(thats a BIG if) he returned in the flesh, how many would recognize him?

He would not be a commander or general, he would likely be a hermit. No one would even consider his words valid because he would have no status in this world. Poor, humble, and meek.

Considering my good friend isn't here to post an answer (prehaps he just choses not to answer *shrug* )

I will take the honour and post this for him....for clairification of course.

A Sword...








 
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