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Originally posted by phatpackage
reply to post by NoHierarchy
YOU ARE NOT WELCOME,
I call your bluff right now! What are you going to do about it? Give your best! I'm waiting! I'll bet you do nothing!
you offer ZERO intellect or perspective and only blind obedience to whichever reigning government/economy that employs/directs you.
For starters I'll lay money my intellect is better than yours! The above quote has nothing to do with anything. It's about decency and respect for other people and their property. As I said to the OP I bet your parents are proud they raised someone who condones theft!
Originally posted by Realms
reply to post by doctornamtab
I steal from the rich
Stealing in any form is unacceptable. Practicing thievery would only bring you down to the corporatist level. Apparently you're no better than them. You may think your sticking it to them....but on the contrary. With your actions of theft, they already own you.
Getting out and understanding the business world would do you loads of good.
Originally posted by NoHierarchy
Originally posted by indigo21
Corporations employ, fund people's retirements and pay taxes to fund social benefits. Corporations are often owned by a vast number of people including workers themselves. Many working-class citizens own those corporations. CEO's get paid a lot because they are responsible for millions of dollars worth of hard-earned assets. Please don't steal from corporations as corporations don't actually steal; They buy low/sell high and that's how they fund your employment and your retirement.
That's such a poorly-informed, Disney version of corporations I don't even know where to start.
REALITY IS- most major corporations pay nearly NOTHING in taxes. There are things called OFFSHORE TAX-HAVENS and TAX LOOPHOLES which corporations take AMPLE advantage of.
They are the masters of sly, slimy, backhanded ways of "legally" stealing land, time, money, resources, lives, health, freedom, etc. from people (i.e. the masses of the Earth). If you haven't figured this out by now... please go back to your homework and return when you're finished.
My BLUFF?? What are you even talking about? You are a giant bluff all by yourself, I've already pointed this out.
Second of all, I'm almost 100% sure that if I met you in person, it'd be obvious that I was more intelligent than you.
We're talking about JUSTIFIABLE SHOPLIFTING which is JUST THAT- justifiable.
The fact that you're so rabidly against "THEFT OMGZ" immediately points out to me that you're a blind follower of the "law"
Originally posted by 30_seconds
Owners of businesses and corporations are what I call :
LABOR PIMPS
What gives them the right to take the surplus value that you create and call it their own?
And those that argue that you just need to set out on your own and create your own business... you can't imagine how hard it is to compete against a multinational corporation with billions of dollars, advertising budget, and deeply entrenched brand names. They are giants, and they squash everything else that could become competition like bugs under their feet. So you can't beat 'em, you join 'em. And then get paid in dollars one-fifth of the value that you create. I CALL THAT STEALING.
Originally posted by spaznational
Originally posted by NoHierarchy
Originally posted by indigo21
Corporations employ, fund people's retirements and pay taxes to fund social benefits. Corporations are often owned by a vast number of people including workers themselves. Many working-class citizens own those corporations. CEO's get paid a lot because they are responsible for millions of dollars worth of hard-earned assets. Please don't steal from corporations as corporations don't actually steal; They buy low/sell high and that's how they fund your employment and your retirement.
That's such a poorly-informed, Disney version of corporations I don't even know where to start.
REALITY IS- most major corporations pay nearly NOTHING in taxes. There are things called OFFSHORE TAX-HAVENS and TAX LOOPHOLES which corporations take AMPLE advantage of.
They are the masters of sly, slimy, backhanded ways of "legally" stealing land, time, money, resources, lives, health, freedom, etc. from people (i.e. the masses of the Earth). If you haven't figured this out by now... please go back to your homework and return when you're finished.
If you think that's the Disney version then you have been terribly mislead by the anti-corporate movement, a subset of the Progressives.
Indigo21 is correct. I don't care how many Michael Moore films you watch... reality remains reality. When I pay a grievous income tax on dividends please again explain to me how I'm a slimy thief who's stealing land, time, money, resources, lives, health freedom, etc from the mass of the Earth.
Thanks to corporations I can have this conversation on the internet using affordable computers. So much for stealing!
Ok, you know what, I'm not done. Now I'm a little angry. This kind of idiotic hatred you spew shows either profound ignorance or deep-seated misanthropy. The advances of technology the world has enjoyed almost entirely through capitalism has done more to alleviate poverty and disease, and raise the standard of living, than any religion, philosophy, or philanthropic movement EVER. You are so blinded by hate you can't see the nose on your own face. People spread these "Progressive" (AKA anti-human) ideas like a cancer of the mind, and it's any easy bandwagon to jump on for anyone who's looking for a scapegoat for their own malcontent; and reality be damned!edit on 11-5-2011 by spaznational because: bad spelling
Originally posted by NoHierarchy
reply to post by phatpackage
Like so many other arguments with simpletons... you've failed to understand or address my actual points. Please try again.
Originally posted by NoHierarchy
Originally posted by spaznational
Originally posted by NoHierarchy
Originally posted by indigo21
Corporations employ, fund people's retirements and pay taxes to fund social benefits. Corporations are often owned by a vast number of people including workers themselves. Many working-class citizens own those corporations. CEO's get paid a lot because they are responsible for millions of dollars worth of hard-earned assets. Please don't steal from corporations as corporations don't actually steal; They buy low/sell high and that's how they fund your employment and your retirement.
That's such a poorly-informed, Disney version of corporations I don't even know where to start.
REALITY IS- most major corporations pay nearly NOTHING in taxes. There are things called OFFSHORE TAX-HAVENS and TAX LOOPHOLES which corporations take AMPLE advantage of.
They are the masters of sly, slimy, backhanded ways of "legally" stealing land, time, money, resources, lives, health, freedom, etc. from people (i.e. the masses of the Earth). If you haven't figured this out by now... please go back to your homework and return when you're finished.
If you think that's the Disney version then you have been terribly mislead by the anti-corporate movement, a subset of the Progressives.
Indigo21 is correct. I don't care how many Michael Moore films you watch... reality remains reality. When I pay a grievous income tax on dividends please again explain to me how I'm a slimy thief who's stealing land, time, money, resources, lives, health freedom, etc from the mass of the Earth.
Thanks to corporations I can have this conversation on the internet using affordable computers. So much for stealing!
Ok, you know what, I'm not done. Now I'm a little angry. This kind of idiotic hatred you spew shows either profound ignorance or deep-seated misanthropy. The advances of technology the world has enjoyed almost entirely through capitalism has done more to alleviate poverty and disease, and raise the standard of living, than any religion, philosophy, or philanthropic movement EVER. You are so blinded by hate you can't see the nose on your own face. People spread these "Progressive" (AKA anti-human) ideas like a cancer of the mind, and it's any easy bandwagon to jump on for anyone who's looking for a scapegoat for their own malcontent; and reality be damned!edit on 11-5-2011 by spaznational because: bad spelling
ARE YOU F***ING KIDDING ME???
Originally posted by doctornamtab
reply to post by ViperChili
I work a decently skilled job now but it provides nothing for society. It is in the field in which I earned my degree.
My job is what I do to get money. My work is completely different and its what I do for society. Unfortunately, fighitng the man isnt hiring nowadays and I have to do it on my "free" time.
Now answer my question: What do shareholder do for work? Why act morally if businesses we work for do not?edit on 10-5-2011 by doctornamtab because: (no reason given)