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posted on May, 16 2011 @ 04:25 PM
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I think it's very lovely, and enjoy looking at it.

I already posted mine.
It somehow turned out pink, but I'ma go with it.




posted on May, 16 2011 @ 06:56 PM
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I´m really enjoying this thread, its a gust of fresh air to be exposed to all of your thoughtspaces, its is a real pleasure to be here.

There is not much to add, we believe what we can, we understand and comprehend only if we have enough personal power to turn knowledge into POWER.

This means that it does not matter a bit if we are walking encyclopedias of "secret" knowledge if we are not going to do anything with that knowledge, it must be transformed into true POWER.
This path of experience can play tricks on us, and some things only seem to be a certain way up till the last moment of realization before we realize that all we held dear or close to our hearts were nothing more than words given meaning by either hope, naiveness, or trust in others instead of oneself.

We truly cannot be cheated unless we want to be cheated, once we realize this nothing ever has the same meanings as we are here but aren't, living between two worlds, pretending on both, pulling ourselves together through sheer willpower and applied knowledge, so that near the end we can unite our both halves and complete ourselves.

We can heal ourselves first before we try to change the world, we first need to have something in order to give out something other than our fears and emptiness!
I can be done, the initiation takes forever, we are the mystery that realizes that our flame is but the flicker of a candle, and yet, it is the same fire at the core of the sun.

..............


On to other things, regarding sigils, there is no right way to make them, there is no right way to empower them, as some of you might know, Grant Morrison powered his lifesaving sigil in a modern day "wank a thon", readers of his work masturbated in unison at certain time to save his life and help the sales of his "magical" comic book The Invisibles.

Magic takes the shape of the time it is practiced, just as the noosphere changes and adapts, grows horns and feathers.

Some people have told me that simplicity is best regarding sigils and the intention behind the process, it has been explained before let me just expand the idea so that it can be glimpsed form other perspective.

The charged symbol is an artifact of power, it is powered either by the will of the creator or the "caught" attentions of those looking at it.
Remember the intention "imprinted" during the act of "carving" as the tradition states that they were mainly carved onto rock or wood, for collective purposes, or to hold aspects of the viewers attentions under control, for protection against the inorganic consciousness or (and) the attraction and binding of the invisible kingdom.

The personal variant states the opposite, no one must ever see the symbol again after being "carved" once the symbol is created by the addition and subtraction of other symbols in this case the letters of our alphabet, some state that the sigil must be "carved" in paper or the like and then burnt after one memorizes the shape, so that whenever we need to access its power the recalling of the image in the mind is enough to gather its power.
Of course it has to be charged in the moment of its creation.

Some people I know have charged hypersigils on hospital beds, or during the funerals of loved ones, any strong feeling can power them, one just looks for the power stored, obviously if the charge is positive the effects will be much more pleasant than if the charging emotion where death or pain, but since power is scarce and people keen on shortcuts, some take every opportunity to get "ahead" and hunt power, again of course the price has to be paid for every action and choice we make.

In modern times sigils take the shape of corporate logos, and "cool" typography in advertising, such are their ways. And their intentions evident.

Other ways of thought regarding hypersigils is that some show just part of the symbol and other parts are kept secret, only uniting them in our innerspace and thus extracting their power, some devious ones charge and expose only parts of sigils, while others they keep for themselves, that way the first intention can be positive while being used in secret with its completing parts to power some "shady" effects.
deception and double meanings are the key, in this, if you dont believe me, look at how TPTB work, always with an ace up their sleeves, never showing what they are really up to, showing just parts of their faces and intentions.

Finally, I was told to keep the sigil simple and elegant, as the general shape and its nuisances must be perfectly internalized and visualized at will for it to really work, the shapes must be recalled perfectly in the minds eye, and sometimes even projected onto this material landscape and its dwellers for its effects to work, it takes some practice and determination to memorize the symbols, not many are willing to put the time to really begin practicing with full force.
when in truth our minds are filled with useless facts and recollections of advertisements, jingles, and logos, we can all recall the Mcdonalds logo in our minds at any time, and several others!
its time to turn knowledge into power in order for us to really do something with our lives and find that elusive meaning of existence, or even better a purpose in life.

The tradition states:

Power - Symbol - Internalization - Focus - willpower - memory - Recalling - Harvesting - Powered Effect

I installed some sigils into this image I made/adapted for my website, they worked quite well, and are just symbols right now, their effects have been achieved, I was guided while doing them, hopefully it helps others to try it out, its simpler than imagined, and far more complex than expected!



ERIS REBORN



detail

how many sigils can you spot within the large image?

BTW there is no "right" or "wrong" way to "carving" them, but overall a simple image is easier to remember than a very complex one, only our hearts and intentions can decide if a sigil will work or not.

Now dont believe anything I have said, put it to practice and find out if I´m lying or not!


cheers!

edit on 16-5-2011 by TheOneEyedProphet because: all with a grain of salt

edit on 16-5-2011 by TheOneEyedProphet because: intentionality



posted on May, 16 2011 @ 07:49 PM
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Whew!!! What an amazing, enlightening and interesting post that was! :up x 1,000,000

It's 1am here in sunny (moony?) Manchester, so I will return with a proper response tomorrow - I couldn't not respond though; a wonderful contribution, and truly appreciated...


Thanks for committing your time to the thread in such a positive, constructive, insightful manner..
one more!


Fly..



posted on May, 17 2011 @ 05:36 AM
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Originally posted by St Udio
reply to post by mistermonculous
 


for my money, your entering the 'Fog' of future casting, prediction...

...the internet was in its infancy with the transfer of data from military and colleges to one another...
all these achievements were 'seen' by those of us that linked to the 'noosphere'....

i think this is just walking on lilly pads that were already positioned... the things that are coming are sinister in nature... cloning, DNA molestation... chimera...man in the stead of the moral God that many believe in...
we are the fallen angels already presuming to be gods ourselves


St. Udio, you hit on my fear : "the things that are coming are sinister in nature... cloning, DNA molestation..."

Technology is growing more & more sophisticated -- it's out of control. So now we have technology of growing sophistication, that can do things that should not be done. But morally, we as a species are still cavemen -- selfish & short-sighted.

The thought of this technology in the hands of TPTB that run this planet should give anyone nightmares.



posted on May, 17 2011 @ 05:38 AM
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Sorry guy's and gals. Been kind of busy ya know.

I'll be back.



posted on May, 17 2011 @ 06:22 AM
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Thanks for reminding me of RAW (Robert Anton Wilson). I read a number of his books years ago.
He had a beautiful soul.



posted on May, 17 2011 @ 06:48 AM
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Originally posted by timewalker
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... I don't think we are at the top looking down in "fear" of losing. If this is the "Gold" age, I am extremely disappointed.

I don't think we are at the bottom "Lead" age. Because I don't think we are that low.

I think we are right in the middle. The red dot....


Speaking of the Golden Age, there are different ways to calculate the ages. Sri Yukteswar (Paramahansa Yogananda's guru) wrote a book "The Holy Science" (I have a copy of this somewhere) where he discusses the Hindu concept of Yugas.

The lowest point is called Kali Yuga. According to Sri Yukteswar, we entered the next Yuga up, Dwapara Yuga, around 1700 AD. This is expected to last until 4099 AD when Treta Yuga begins.

This is a longer period than Dwapara. That means the highest point of Sat Yuga (Golden Age) does not begin for thousands of years beyond 4099 AD.



posted on May, 17 2011 @ 06:53 AM
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Originally posted by Illusionsaregrander
reply to post by mistermonculous
 


I believe there is something to this. I just dont believe sitting around thinking about it, envisioning it, meditating on it, etc., is the way to achieve it.

Its a physical plane. Moving works. Manifesting via moving works best.

I think we should get up off our arses and make it happen. Just my two cents.


Ah, you place much emphasis on human action. Certainly, some human action is needed, but understanding what the correct action should be, can best be attracted by concentrating on the desired end goal.



posted on May, 17 2011 @ 07:09 AM
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Originally posted by Illusionsaregrander

Originally posted by mistermonculous


Oh noes, IAG, I never meant to imply that one is not to take concrete action to enact change. Personally, I am very involved in the local agricultural movement in my neck of the woods.


Lol. Good, that makes me feel very relieved, One of the reasons I ignore many spiritual type things is because of their interpretation of the "law of Attraction" and how "thoughts become reality." Im incredibly frustrated with people who feel the way to improve the world is only to think good thoughts, and the way they accomplish that is by turning their heads from anything unpleasant.

Which as I see it violates spiritual law on so many levels its not even funny.

I believe, instead, much more in line with the Bhagavad Gita, that its NOT about turning your head from the unpleasant to the pleasant, or refusing to do the dirty work, it is by fully accepting the true nature of things that you realize that the "dirty work" just IS, and that "pleasant/unpleasant" is your fallacious judgment of what IS, and that you must simply act as you are best designed to act in a play not of your own making, whose outcome is not your business.


Excellent point, Illusions. I feel the same irritation. David Spangler ( a key person in the early years of Findhorn) addressed this in his book, "Everyday Miracles." It starts on page 31, and goes on for pages so I can't present all of it here. But here's the gist of it:

"While I did not want to be ruled by doubt or fear, I did not want to ignore them either. Something about always concentrating on the light, bright, positive side of life seemed out of balance to me. It denied my ability to recognize and confront the shadow side of existence. If I were having doubts or fears, then I wanted to examine them, not cast them aside. Otherwise, it seemed to me, I ran the risk of denying some aspect of reality or suppressing honest questioning or critical judgment."



posted on May, 17 2011 @ 07:24 AM
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Hi guys.
I've been on Stellarium trying to determine which polarity the Earth is moving into...I'm unsure given the location dependent upon the altitude in the plane we are currently in right now. Pisces, Virgo, Cancer etc,; these areas seem to be all different altitudes in the sky. Pretty confusing...

This pic kinda shows a still image of each planet and a line to show it's altitude(at this given time)...Going by this I'd have to guess we're on high, looking low. May 1, 2011.

I have a feeling there's more than one 'neutral.'

Dangit, wife's mad, gotta go to bed!





posted on May, 17 2011 @ 07:27 AM
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Originally posted by Frater210
All interested Noonauts might want to check in here...

www.abovetopsecret.com...

Something is in the Air.




Fascinating thread. Thanks for the heads-up.



posted on May, 17 2011 @ 07:31 AM
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Originally posted by Illusionsaregrander

Originally posted by mistermonculous


I may or may not be getting your point, and please of course feel free to correct me, but I am pretty certain you are not really getting mine.

And Im really struggling to find a way to clarify it. So bear with me.

Part of the problem is you and I SEEM to look at who "we" are differently. I consider myself more like an avatar. Kind of like a video game character. So while I have an "identity" and an "existence" in this "game" (all metaphorical) Im not really the avatar, or the character. Im the consciousness outside the game, that experiences this game through the avatar.

So, just like in a game, the "rule set" in the game absolutely apply to my character. It is bound to those rules. It is totally locked in the construct of the game. But "I" as that consciousness, am not necessarily subject in any real way to those rules. If my character dies in game, I do not necessarily die out side the game.

So while "I" the avatar, am subject to the unfolding and linear nature of time, "I" as the consciousness outside the construct am not. Here the analogy of a human playing a game breaks down a little, because for humans, the game is made to mimic in many ways the outside reality. In the game of "life" its really quite different from what I believe to have experienced as "objective or absolute truth."

So yes, "we" are subject to time, but the whole thing is an illusion. What happens to the avatar does NOT have an impact on the "player" of the game.

Long ago, when I first played an MMO, it was PvP rules. And as a new player to MMOs I had never had a "real" human intelligence hunt me down and kill me. It was terrifying, even though I was safely in my seat. My heart was beating so hard, I was trying to run and getting hung up on things, and when the little bastard looted me and danced around on my corpse, I was really pained by the whole thing.

I might as well have gone through the thing in "real." I really did not enjoy it. And I almost quit. But over time, I actually came to enjoy the whole thing. All of it. Winning. Losing. Living. Dying. No matter. I loved it all. It was experience, and getting good was fun.

The difference? How much I identified with my avatar. It kind of like how much we identify with the ego. The less you do, the more fun the experience of "life" is. The more you do, the more you struggle and desperately try to preserve it.

My experience of God is not someone sitting behind a screen. "God" doesnt care. God is pure conscious intelligence experiencing itself in the eternal now. The reason to "change" is for us. The consciousness in avatar form, so that the illusion or game is not terrifying and hard, but exhilarating and flows easily. The change is not so we change the outcome of the game, but so that we enjoy the game no matter what the outcome.

All rather shoddy metaphor of course.


Actually, Illusions, that's an excellent metaphor. I experience it the same way. We suffer because we mis-identify with this finite, temporary "avatar."



posted on May, 17 2011 @ 07:36 AM
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Originally posted by FlyInTheOintment
Drum roll pleeeeeease!


Guys & Gals - here is my first sigil. It took ages, but the process is highly enjoyable and therapeutic. It's amazing to watch the transformations of shapes on the page; then there's the moment of reaslisation as you determine what the resulting form appears to represent!

Without further ado - The phrase being used was: 'That we shall be pure of mind...'

I'll put my whole 'statement of intent' into the next post; you'll see that I have a way to go as yet, before my 'sigil string' is completed... I'll also add in some photos of the various development stages so that all who would like to replicate with their own statements can get a feel for what's involved...

Here's the finished article:





Ta-daaaaa!!

*** *** *** *** *** ***

So - whaddya think?

My first 'in process' thoughts on the shape that was developing was: 'Seahorse'.

My first free association from that thought was the album entitled "Love is the Law" by the former member of the Stone Roses, John Squire (who went on from Stone Roses glory in the mid-nineties to form a band called, funnily enough, "the Seahorses").

As a teenager I loved some of their tracks, and used to sing them in an informal rock band, constituting me and a couple of mates...


As the embellishments progressed, it became clear (to me) that this is a sort of 'Dragon' - perhaps drawing a sword...

(NB - noting the input from Frater2010 above made my heart skip a beat!!)

I'm pleased with the result - and it becomes easy to see why this is such a practical form of retraining your mind to think in new and positive ways. While the work is in progress, your mind is constantly reaffirming the statement of intent, both consciously and subconsciously.

Now, as I look at the finished sigil, I see a noble dragon, drawing a sword to vanquish those demons afflicting us with doubts, poor choices and inappropriate modes of thought! It works!

PRACTICAL MAGIC..! ... **


(... ** Or, if you prefer, 'Practical Mind Entrainment'...)


Fly, you are quite the artist. That's a beautiful & unconventional sigil.



posted on May, 17 2011 @ 03:13 PM
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Same can be said of the "suns" in the tradition.




In Aztec mythology, the universe is not permanent or everlasting, but subject to death like any living creature. However, even as it dies, the universe is reborn again into a new age, or "Sun." Nanauatl is best known from the "Legend of the Fifth Sun" as related by Sahagun. In this legend, which is the basis for most Nanahuatl myths, there had been four creations. In each one, one god has taken on the task of serving as the sun: Tezcatlipoca, Quetzalcoatl, Tlaloc, and Chalchiuhtlicue. Each age ended because the gods were not satisfied with the human beings that they had created. Finally, Quetzalcoatl retrieves the sacred bones of their ancestors, mixes them with corn and his own blood, and manages to make acceptable human beings. However, no other god wants the task of being the sun.


from the wackypedia , BTW, regarding the veracity of the info in wakypedia I can vouch that at least the main idea is transferred correctly!


Ancients from the last era, where not only connected, but more than capable of feats we can only describe today as mere myths.
Some say that something happened that changed mans "polarity" from his "spiritual" half (nahual) to his "material" side (tonal), it seems that mankind fluctuates between those two aspects from time to time, and that each radical fluctuation brings forth a new age, yuga, sun, or deluge.
True knowledge is the same for everyone as is the same path for all, only the details of our struggles and the victims we leave behind what are unique to each.

The focus of the age also seems to change, from pure abstract power to pure material power, truth is only the ones within the illusion of "total power" dare to express absolutes, when nothing really "is" anything at all.

great comments from everyone!
and from very different angles




posted on May, 17 2011 @ 03:30 PM
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Wheww. That thread has drained me a bit.

You guys are great artist. The sigils would make cool tattoo's.



Power to the Nnights of the Noosphere (Fraters idea)



posted on May, 17 2011 @ 03:32 PM
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I see them being played against each other, basically they are divided into two groups, each group is in opposition to each other. No matter how much I try to explain it to them, they don't seem to listen. Ironically, I seem to suffer at the hands of people who are on both sides of the fence, as each side believes that I am on the other side when I am on neither side.

You know, once, just once, I became so frustrated at them, that I thought they deserved to be deceived, simply for thier ignorance...

Then again, we could just be spectators in this game, I don't care what side I land on, whether I "escape" or not, because I am free, I can fall into complete abyss and re-emerge on the other side, it is, really, just a game to me.

What am I saying? I will thrive in hell, and I will burn brightly in heaven.
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posted on May, 17 2011 @ 04:13 PM
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Because we are already dead, what can we loose that we haven't?
we live remembering what they did to us, and live planning what we are going to do to them as a result.
The only time is now, the only moment right this very second where we sit.

The only advice, dont give in to anything, be and not be, have no expectations, it takes a great effort to feel complete and full, even greater than feeling dull and lifeless!

cheers!

Connecting and disconnecting would be the only sane efficient way to exist considering the current state of things.
It takes iron guts and not even an ounce of doubt to live and let live.



posted on May, 18 2011 @ 10:03 AM
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Wishing to put TOEP's excellent advice into practice, I would like to lay out the following plan of action to all interested parties.

1. Make your own super-sigil composed of all the statements on this thread, the sister thread linked in the OP and any other source (I've been asking friends, loved ones, and strangers
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2. Do not display these sigils.

3. At a pre-arranged time, all participants simultaneously do their thang to charge the sigil. Meditation, wankery, conjugal hanky-panky, any process is acceptable, so long as the energy's source is "positive" activity.

Input welcome.



posted on May, 18 2011 @ 12:38 PM
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I was struck by a very strange thought this morning. Been rolling it about in the old bean, thought it just might have some merit.

Allow me to compare the noosphere to a human brain. The denser and more prolific our dendrites, the greater the number of neural nodes, the richer and more complex the connections formed between those nodes, the better for the brain's propensity to understand and generate ideas. Our nodes number in the billions, were they less, we would find our ability to think proportionally diminished.

What if we transfer that model to mass consciousness? Never before in the history of our species have we had both billions of potential nodes, and the technological means for each node to communicate with others en masse. Simply put, our noosphere may be primed to boot up to full capacity at this very special moment in time.

Upside to the population explosion? Maybe. I'm not sold on the idea, but think it's certainly worth examining.
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posted on May, 18 2011 @ 08:22 PM
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Originally posted by AuranVector

Originally posted by timewalker
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... I don't think we are at the top looking down in "fear" of losing. If this is the "Gold" age, I am extremely disappointed.

I don't think we are at the bottom "Lead" age. Because I don't think we are that low.

I think we are right in the middle. The red dot....


Speaking of the Golden Age, there are different ways to calculate the ages. Sri Yukteswar (Paramahansa Yogananda's guru) wrote a book "The Holy Science" (I have a copy of this somewhere) where he discusses the Hindu concept of Yugas.

The lowest point is called Kali Yuga. According to Sri Yukteswar, we entered the next Yuga up, Dwapara Yuga, around 1700 AD. This is expected to last until 4099 AD when Treta Yuga begins.

This is a longer period than Dwapara. That means the highest point of Sat Yuga (Golden Age) does not begin for thousands of years beyond 4099 AD.


I found my copy of "The Holy Science." According to what I understand of the book:

Kali Yuga (worst) lasts 1200 yrs. Started 500 AD. Muhammad (570 - 632 AD) false prophet of Kali Yuga.

Dwapara Yuga lasts 2400 yrs. Started 1700 AD. This is the Yuga we are in now. Period of Science & Tech.

Treta Yuga (Silver Age) lasts 3600 yrs. Starts 4100 AD.

Satya Yuga (Golden Age) lasts 4800 yrs. But there are 400 yrs periods of Sandhi (transitional period) on each side (ascending & descending) of the Satya Yuga. Sandhi starts 7700 AD. Actual Satya Yuga starts 8100 AD and then lasts 2000 yrs, before beginning the descending Sandhi and starting the whole descending cycle again.

The peak of Satya Yuga should be around 9100 AD.

According to Sri Yukteswar, the Piscean Age started around 499 AD and the Aquarian Age will not start until 2499 AD. So if that's right, we have another almost 500 yrs before the dawning of the Age of Aquarius.



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