As a staunch CAGW-sceptic, admittedly, begrudgingly, I have to agree with mc_squared as far as these arguments go.
Holy. Toledo. Getting back up from the absolute last place I would ever expect it, whaddya know! I'm sure it took a lot of fortitude just to type those words, so thank you. I mean that sincerely. Unless this was a trap or something lol.
In the spirit of finding a little common ground across the gaping divide Nathan, I hope you can at least see from this thread what it is about the whole inane debate that drives me nuts, because really it should piss you off just as much - as all it does is undermine your own stance as well.
It has nothing to do with who "believes" what. It just has to do with the totally willful, or at least blind, spreading of misinformation and ignorance. Misinformation and ignorance that people like the OP then completely refuse to acknowledge when shown the facts, because they are too busy stroking their own ego and calling everyone else a sheep.
I was coming to ATS a long time before I ever made the mistake of getting sucked into the local climate hysterics. This place has always been full of...ummm...let's say "eccentrics". But it used to be policed in a way that at least the really sketchy stuff didn't make it very far past all the critical thinking filters we have/had around here.
But the climate thing is dominated by soooo much ego. Some of the armchair sherlocks around here really obviously get off on the idea of fancying themselves smarter than the scientific establishment. Questioning it is one thing - healthy skepticism is always a good thing - but pontificating over it because they found some controversial info on the interwebs that does much more to feed their hungry egos than actually spark any genuine dissemination into the truth? Well...yeah.
And then meanwhile - think about how that plays into the hands of the denial industry, which I don't care how much you want to acknowledge it or not - you have to at least admit does exist. This is exactly how they manipulate people into becoming their sock puppets for them - by playing not only on their lack of knowledge, but much more so on their vanity.
So on that note look at how much bad information has been regurgitated throughout this thread by the OP, along with the official "anyone who says otherwise is just brainwashed by Al Gore lololol" stamp. Look at the link he just gave you on the Keeling curve (I'm 99% sure the OP and TheUniverse are the same poster *cough* mods? hello? *cough*):
I mean first off, blogspot, wow what a reputable source. It took me about 10 seconds of reading that link to see the author of the post has no idea what the term airborne fraction actually means, or the difference between "is increasing" and "is zero".
But whatev - you try explaining it to him because I'm not bothering any more. I will genuinely start L-O-Ling if he starts telling you how brainwashed YOU are by Al Gore.
