New Survey: Osama bin Laden's death, page 3
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reply posted on 10-5-2011 @ 03:37 PM by sk0rpi0n
reply to post by SkepticOverlord



I'd go with these...


"5) Osama bin Laden died of natural (or other) causes over the past nine years and someone else was killed on May 1, 2011, yet we were told it was bin Laden.

6) The US rejected the Taliban offer to surrender Osama bin Laden in 2001 for trial, because the eventual trial would reveal his involvement with the CIA beginning in Afghanistan in the late 1970's"


Another possible option is that he was killed in the initial US strike on Afghanistan shortly after the war started after 9/11.... but his myth was kept alive to continue the war on terror.

Id also point out that the Taliban is a faction comprising of people indigenous to Afghanistan, i.e- Osama was not Taliban.. The Taliban fights occupation because they dont want foriegners on their soil... not because they are under OBLs command.


reply posted on 10-5-2011 @ 03:43 PM by TruthxIsxInxThexMist
reply to post by SkepticOverlord



I took the survey... i like it, its quick and easy.

I will look out for the results!!


reply posted on 10-5-2011 @ 03:48 PM by PurpleHorizon
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Over 70% are non members.

Yes that is very interesting. The following of ATS is far more than the member numbers and I find that encouraging.



reply posted on 10-5-2011 @ 03:50 PM by brianmg5
reply to post by SkepticOverlord



...There is no evidence that it was an assassination. The official story was that he was going to be arrested, and resisted by reaching for weapons. Where did you come up with "Assassination?"

Are the mods now contributing to the mass speculation (touted around as fact) which occurs on this website in nearly every "smoking gun/proof" thread?
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reply posted on 10-5-2011 @ 04:31 PM by digitalbluco
Yes, I personally know of many people who routinely visit this site, but have never registered. Like I said in a previous post, I've lurked here for 3/4 years before I finally signed up just last night.

About the ip argument of it seeing the router's ip, well I just don't see how that is possible. If it were, I would never use a router, as that would be a huge security flaw. No matter what website I check, they all report back my true ip address, and never the routers. I mean heck, everyone I personally know in real life, all use the same brand name of router that I use, which is netgear. Also to further this argument, I went to my friends house, and was able to do the survey from there. I even checked what ip the router assigned his laptop, and it was the exact one as mine, which is 192.168.1.2. Also, unlike some others, I never viewed it, then went back to it. I went straight to it to participate in the survey, and instantly got that message.

My suggestion is to just have the surveys for members only. Having guests being able to participate in them most always leads to the surveys being manipulated. A good example of this is the photography websites, where people vote for the best picture. I was part of a forum of someone who posted a photo on one of them, so he made a topic asking for people to vote for him. Just two posts into his topic, a person announced that he used a bot that constantly changed ip addresses, which voted over and over. Needless to say, he was number one on there for months, and by far all because of one person who was knowledgeable in making proxy changing bots.


reply posted on 10-5-2011 @ 04:36 PM by Question Fate
reply to post by SkepticOverlord



X. Osama Bin Laden was the code name for a CIA operative, and he never existed.


reply posted on 10-5-2011 @ 04:43 PM by LosLobos
reply to post by digitalbluco



It doesn't record your router's ip. It records what it sees. I have two computers hooked up to a router. I was able to vote twice. What the survey software is seeing is your mac address from that computer.

If you use a VPN then you can probably vote as often as you'd like. Really good VPN's strip all the header information from its outgoing packets. So unless they block EVERYONE who uses a particular VPN or ISP for that matter, then you can probably vote as often as you want to.

What they are using to limit folks is probably the MAC address from your computer. So okay, some folks may not be able to vote because someone else used that computer to already vote.


reply posted on 11-5-2011 @ 02:40 PM by digitalf
Originally posted by PurpleHorizon
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post by SkepticOverlord


Over 70% are non members.
Yes that is very interesting. The following of ATS is far more than the member numbers and I find that encouraging.

Not necessarily, offering the poll to non-members gave real members a way to participate without any link to their normal member account. I contemplated participation as a non-member even though I have a member account, I realised I'm not totally paranoid just yet


reply posted on 11-5-2011 @ 04:53 PM by againuntodust
reply to post by earthdude



I don't understand how you're involved, perhaps you would like to shoot me a message rather than derail this thread, although I don't think one post would derail the thread. Either way... wha???
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