Unexplainable Flying Objects?

Hello. These two videos have been on my mind for a few days now. The first video's UFO was spotted by several different people, and a compilation was made on Youtube. This took place:

UFO sightings over Lake Elsinore, CA.. ON THURSDAY THE 6TH OF JANUARY 2011..

The second - and my favorite of the two, had some pretty fascinating stuff in it. Even the end has some compelling NASA footage. I would be interested to know what the more savvy skeptics have to say about this.



So there ya go. I cannot explain these - perhaps you can.

Great videos, just throw them in with the other videos out there that are evidence that the phenomena is real. It's also reassuring when you have your own experience, it changes the way you think, doesn't it?

Also i love it when the one guy in the background is like " OMG, Aliens!"

good video

people ask for more evidence

like stool samples and body parts

thousands of videos
thousands of images

some in focus
some not

government files released
still doubt and ignorance

sad
the culling is coming

maybe can explain these phenomenons ??

MOD NOTE:
Please do not just post minimalist posts that say "fake!".
Back up your opinion and show why you believe what you believe.

I saw two UFOs from what I believed at the time to be deep space. There were two "stars" East of Orion's Belt. They literally shot off in unison to the right, then on a DIME vaulted vertically up across the sky.

Questioned my government ever since.

Yeah, I won't be surprised if this thread doesn't even get off the ground. If there isn't anything to debunk, it's not "needed".

(Notice: my sly way of challenging debunkers to stop being lazy and get in here.)

Originally posted by Be4sTXMoDe
Sorry but all those video's are a fake or man made hoaxes.

so this topic has nothing to offer.

No they aren't. Prove it,

You man made hoax.

reply to post by Be4sTXMoDe


do you know this for fact
fact brought to back up a claim

a claim you made
care to explain

These are both cool videos. I do wonder though, why would an alien ship have such bright lights? Surely if they're observing us they'd want to be more stealthy than that. Of course it could be the engine's exhausts or vents causing the lights. Like I said though it's not very stealthy. Even us lowly humans are stealthier than that.

I suspect that it's an unknown craft of earthly origin or simply a dressed up helicopter designed to cause this very type of discussion.

A quick search of "Lake Elsinore" brought up multiple threads of the first video. It's skydivers with flares.

UFO Strange craft in Lake Elsinore, California Jan, 6, 2011 .

Gotta run, so someone else can do the heavy lifting on the second one

reply to post by JFraser


Valid point. That is what I think every time as well.

But then I think, "They just don't care". When you were a boy with a magnifying glass, kicking over logs to look at the little beetles and bugs, did you care to hide yourself from them?

Then there is the psychic argument, that they show themselves for specific people.

Maybe they are charging up, using our magnetic lay lines as a form of magnetic fuel.

But truly, opposite/positive views on Why/Why Not is pure speculation. There's no way to tell, but it really does make sense that "if they are there, they would be freakin' invisible"

Don't get me wrong though, I have always been on the kick that TPowersTBe have very advanced aviation technology.

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Good find, but unsatisfactory replies. Poor guy didn't even get a star for effort. This is not about the ATS game. It's about getting people to see these videos and possibly open a mind or two to otherworldly possibilities.

The other day I saw a ufo. Now I am pretty much convinced. Anyway how can this phenomena be fake.

Things like the Lizard man and Bigfoot you can call hoaxes. But the ufo phenomena is literally everywhere in every country.

We are being visited and we're not alone. What a creepy thought.

It is a weird thought, but not necessarily something to fear.

Every one of us has been taught, through the TV or the Bible or our Parents to FEAR the unknown (eg. death, E.T)

By understanding that something has not only been visiting us, but may indeed be monitoring us - is not good or bad in my opinion. It's just something to up the ante towards understanding ourselves.

reply to post by dadgad


I agree. Crypto-zoological things like bigfoot, seen by a few people here and there, with no real proof.
UFOs, seen by tens thousands of people, for over 100 years (since before WWI for some sightings), with videos, pictures, testimonies by reliable people, government reports, radar tapes, etc.

Alone the evidence is inconclusive, if not against it. But all of it together, combined with your own experience, if you've had one, is more than enough. At least for me, and I know many others feel that way.

reply to post by ThinkingCap


The first video is a parachute display team , probably the golden knights , second contains video's discussed and explained in other threads , so no they are not Unexplainable Flying Objects .

U.S. Army Golden Knight's Parachute Demo Team night jump

Hey there ThinkingCap,

About the first video with multiple shots and witnesses - it turned out to be skydivers performing night jump training with flares attached to them. The lights seemed like falling down with a decent speed at first, that's when the skydivers haven't opened their chutes yet. The moment of seperation of the three skydivers (it seems they jumped close tight to one another) is just a couple of seconds before they open their chutes, after that, the "hovering" lights maintained a steady lowering pattern for some minutes until the flares burnt out. Someone even managed to contact the skydiver team (I don't remember their name) on their Facebook and they confirmed it was them performing training for an upcoming show they were participating in.

About the second video, I don't know since I haven't got the time to watch it as well, will come back later for it

Hope this was of help!

Cheers

edit to add - damn, Gortex... Once again, you beat me to it by a couple of minutes The name of the team was The Golden Knights, yes

Originally posted by ThinkingCap
reply to post by JFraser

 

Valid point. That is what I think every time as well.

But then I think, "They just don't care". When you were a boy with a magnifying glass, kicking over logs to look at the little beetles and bugs, did you care to hide yourself from them?

I agree with this analogy. As irrelevant as we may be to such beings though, I'd have thought stealth would simply be protocol.

Wow, looking at the first video with that in mind, I suppose that is totally plausible. Especially if they contacted the divers via facebook. Looks like we've got ourselves an IFO then. Thanks Gortex and Chinito.

The part that got me was when the flares spun around each other like that. Good catch though.

I await an analysis on the second video!