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posted on May, 11 2011 @ 07:48 PM
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Originally posted by ownbestenemy
Each article also defines what those sections can/cannot do; enumeration of powers.


And Article II, Section II makes it explicit Congress can do this...

but the Congress may by Law vest the Appointment of such inferior Officers, as they think proper, in the President alone, in the Courts of Law, or in the Heads of Departments.




posted on May, 11 2011 @ 07:50 PM
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Originally posted by neo96
where is the gladiator to slay our senate?


Wow...another member advocating assassination and the mods allowing it.

for the love of aqua buddah this better not happen


Originally posted by neo96
the facist rise of america continues...............................amerika is dead.


Can you tell us how this is fascist?



posted on May, 11 2011 @ 07:57 PM
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i am advocating assination that was hilarious dude IT WAS A METAPHOR,

now for the reading impaired if i was advocating assination i would have said : " kill em all" "murder da bums"

how is it fasccist? dude giving your self more power to do whatever the hell you is is nothing but fascist.

any time a group or person becomes more powerful than the people that is the very definition of fascism

a quote by fdr one of the most loved fascist presidents in us history.


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posted on May, 11 2011 @ 08:07 PM
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Originally posted by neo96
how is it fasccist? dude giving your self more power to do whatever the hell you is is nothing but fascist.


Is the Constitution fascist?


Originally posted by neo96
any time a group or person becomes more powerful than the people that is the very definition of fascism


Do you even know what fascism is or do you think it simply means "power"?

By your definition, as Congress now has this authority, they are fascist. But in giving this authority to the President (as allowed for in the Constitution), they will no longer be fascist but the President will be.
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posted on May, 11 2011 @ 09:36 PM
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Originally posted by WingedBull

Originally posted by neo96
where is the gladiator to slay our senate?


Wow...another member advocating assassination and the mods allowing it.

for the love of aqua buddah this better not happen


Originally posted by neo96
the facist rise of america continues...............................amerika is dead.


Can you tell us how this is fascist?






Can you tell us how this is fascist?


and can you tell us why you think this isnt fascism? American government is going to continue to strip Americans out of there civil liberates, rights.

So why you think this isnt fascist?



posted on May, 11 2011 @ 11:21 PM
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Originally posted by Agent_USA_Supporter
and can you tell us why you think this isnt fascism? American government is going to continue to strip Americans out of there civil liberates, rights.


Because no one, through this bill, is being stripped of their civil liberties. And because this bill is explicitly allowed for in the Constitution.

Do you even know what fascism is, or do you simply use it as a catch-all for any government action you don't like?

What is fascism?


Fascism is a form of extreme right-wing ideology that celebrates the nation or the race as an organic community transcending all other loyalties. It emphasizes a myth of national or racial rebirth after a period of decline or destruction. To this end, fascism calls for a "spiritual revolution" against signs of moral decay such as individualism and materialism, and seeks to purge "alien" forces and groups that threaten the organic community. Fascism tends to celebrate masculinity, youth, mystical unity, and the regenerative power of violence. Often, but not always, it promotes racial superiority doctrines, ethnic persecution, imperialist expansion, and genocide. At the same time, fascists may embrace a form of internationalism based on either racial or ideological solidarity across national boundaries. Usually fascism espouses open male supremacy, though sometimes it may also promote female solidarity and new opportunities for women of the privileged nation or race.

Fascism's approach to politics is both populist--in that it seeks to activate "the people" as a whole against perceived oppressors or enemies--and elitist--in that it treats the people's will as embodied in a select group, or often one supreme leader, from whom authority proceeds downward. Fascism seeks to organize a cadre-led mass movement in a drive to seize state power. It seeks to forcibly subordinate all spheres of society to its ideological vision of organic community, usually through a totalitarian state. Both as a movement and a regime, fascism uses mass organizations as a system of integration and control, and uses organized violence to suppress opposition, although the scale of violence varies widely.
Source

I don't see anything in there about allowing a President to appoint bureaucrats as a defining aspect of fascism.
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posted on May, 12 2011 @ 11:30 AM
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Originally posted by WingedBull

Originally posted by ownbestenemy
Each article also defines what those sections can/cannot do; enumeration of powers.


And Article II, Section II makes it explicit Congress can do this...

but the Congress may by Law vest the Appointment of such inferior Officers, as they think proper, in the President alone, in the Courts of Law, or in the Heads of Departments.


And I have been expressly pointing that fact people are missing and flipping out about this Senate bill and that it is nothing new, nothing extreme and not going to give all power to the Presidents.





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