Chinese purple: the solution for energy change on a global scale?

I was watching PBS this Saturday, and the topic of the show was the clay army unearthed in china. The entire show was fascinating. It covered nearly every related topic, how when and why. Towards the end, the most fascinating facts were touched upon but they didn't go into the depth that I think this singular subject deserved. I am hoping to find out more info and share this info as I uncover it.

So it sense that these statues were painted very intricately, in vivid colors, a prominent color being Chinese purple. At the time it was only one of two manmade pigments known to man, the other being Egyptian blue. It was said that the two were unrelated and the "formula was not shared between cultures.

This purple pigment was a byproduct of alchemist attempting to make fake jade, as jade was thought to have powers in the afterlife, and royalty were buried in suits made of it. As this burial practiced fell by the wayside, so did the purple pigment.

The most fascinating point about this pigment is that a group of scientist took a small flake of color to the lab that houses the most power magnet in the world, to run a few tests. At this point they were finally able to determine the compounds that made the color, and something amazing happened while it was exposed to the high magnet levels.

It appears that somehow the object, pigment particle, transformed from 3D, to 2D. Now a scientist i am not, but the reactions of the ones on this show led me to believe this could be the discovery of a lifetime, right up there with nuclear science.

They said it could transform the way electricity is made, the efficiency of transportation, and on and on.

Sadly, most of it was over my head, but I understood enough of what was being said to realize this was a huge discovery. If anyone say this show, or can explain to me how a 3D object becomes 2D, and the implications, that would be awesome.

I am so new to starting threads. I have trouble with links and such. I know there is a page on the PBS website about the show, but is doesn't say much about the magnet experiment. Though if you scroll down to the comment section, inquiries about this subject abound. Google Chinese purple PBS, that is how I got there.

Hope you find this information as fascinating as I did. Any help is appreciated.

www.magnet.fsu.edu...
One of the scientist working on the experiment.

www.pbs.org...
Program transcript. Comments on magnetic info towards the end.








www.xudu.net...
More experiments at Los alamos nm.

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Thank you.

Please change to science and technology, as i believe it a more relevant topic, and it may get more scientific minded folks to explain this to the rest of us.

That is pretty spectacular in itself! The molecules became a wave, then a 2D thing!? If its something that can be done to everything in the universe, I wonder what I would look like in 2D...

And make electronic components with this? That would bring a new level of doomsayers with computers that could be seen as "inter-dimensional" in their workings...

Very nice find!

reply to post by NowanKenubi


Ok. Glad you enjoyed . But what does it mean...as far as the 3D 2D thing. I can't seem to wrap my head around it.

reply to post by Wetpaint72


I'm far from being a scientist, but they said the molecules became a wave, which is not matter anymore, according to Quantum physics( If I'm not mistaken! ). And then it transforms into a 2D thing. In my mind, I can't help but think it becomes interdimensional since in our universe, everything is in 3D.

The images we call 2D are in fact 3D objects so thin we don't bother with its height and call it 2D for convenience.

That's pretty big news in my mind. And it is announced discreetly, which is "suspicious"...

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I was thinking along the same lines, but it is kind of like the sound of one hand clapping. My brain just spins round and round at the implications and thying to imagine a truely 2 demential " thing". Not wave.

It is almost , if I am thinking correctly...the tangible infinite.??????

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I just found the following article linking to another one explaining that according to the Hologram universe, we are in reality 2D objects projected in 3D...

I haven't read it all yet, but it's bound to give one a headache!

About the wave created by clapping your head; I have been thinking for sometime that all dimensions reside here in the universe. Sometimes, I read in an astrophysics article that the observed object is so much in the extremes that the laws of physics as we know them do not apply anymore... The sets of laws then would have to obey other dimensions than the one we live in. It's only speculation on my part...

But that would mean the Chinese Purple would be easily reverted to its true form... If that is applied to a grander scale, would it allow for redesign? That's scary...

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Poof....that was the sound of my head exploding!!!!!! I will try to read the article . Thanks, I only dread being more puzzled after the read though!

reply to post by NowanKenubi


this made news in 2006,

www.trin.cam.ac.uk...

www.jstor.org...

www.ldeo.columbia.edu...

www.nsf.gov...

With work on the subject for 5 years now, we should see some updates. This is nothing mysterious as well, the Chinese purple is barium copper silicates close to what the Egyptians used but without calcium and added barium. Wiki it

en.wikipedia.org...


The 3D to 2D is an explanation of how barium copper silicate behaves when placed in a powerful magnet and frozen. It is forcing the electrons to take a path created by Sebastian to follow a 2D plane since it is now the least resistant. That is what is very interesting and perhaps what will pave the way for future electronic applications.

To speculate that the Chinese used barium copper silicate this way and not to dye their clothes is reaching for anyone who goes in that direction. The history of the Chinese finding this substance is really interesting and nothing to do any supernatural ideas other than to visually represent rich people like all other cultures at the same time.

The ancient alchemists who invented Chinese purple continue to have an impact—today on the study of physics. Suchitra Sebastian of Stanford University is a specialist in condensed matter physics, the study of how atoms and molecules interact with each other. She took microscopic crystals of Chinese purple, known to physicists as barium copper silicate, and subjected them to extremely powerful magnetic fields and temperatures close to absolute zero. Sebastian’s team discovered two strange effects that could someday lead to super conductive electrical wires and super-efficient computers. First, as she lowered the temperature below two degrees Kelvin and raised the intensity of the magnetic field to 900 times the strength of the earth’s, the molecules of Chinese purple crystals linked together magnetically and began behaving as a single wave of magnetic energy. As she continued to lower the temperature to within a fraction of a degree of absolute zero, the magnetic couplings between the molecules began disappearing until they became, in terms of magnetism, separate two-dimensional planes—something no material had ever done before. While this work is unrelated to archaeology, the researchers still owe a debt to the ancient Chinese. “I actually went to the archaeology journals to get ideas,” says Sebastian. “Essentially the way we grow barium copper silicate crystals is very similar to the way the ancient Chinese grew them.” —Zach Zoric

It sure is cool, I liked to look into the subject and gave me something to read about this morning. Thanks OP.

Just waiting for those super wires and super computers so I can surf the interwebs thingie faster.

reply to post by Wetpaint72


I remember the news in the article I pointed to you. Essentially, scientists working on a project had some bugs, and it was found that the "bug" had been predicted a bit prior to its detection. And the "bug" detected was the "pixelization" of our Holographic Universe. That is the creation of the canvas of the universe, its very fabric.

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The 3D to 2D is an explanation of how barium copper silicate behaves when placed in a powerful magnet and frozen. It is forcing the electrons to take a path created by Sebastian to follow a 2D plane since it is now the least resistant.

So it doesn't become a true 2D object, but only "flows" on a plane, instead of all three? Why do they say it became a wave prior to this? ???

Thanks!

reply to post by NowanKenubi


So not only did it Change from solid to energy "wave", but it then transformed to something 2 demential, which they are calling basic state. Is this progression or digression.. Or both.

reply to post by Wetpaint72


I read this a looong time ago, and posted it at a few forums, no one seemed to care, i guess theyre too busy eating grass. Baaaaaaaaa.

What do you thik the applications of this can be?

reply to post by BanMePlz


Sorry, I did a search and didn't see it. Still trying to wrap my head around it. But seems to me in a basic way...and I'm just guessing here, that at the least friction would be greatly minimized due to two dimentional flow. Which as I would guess would be a great advancement in many fields including high speed rails that work with magnetic power. And of course maybe, roller coasters!

If ever an experiment required pics, this one does. It is impossible for an "object" to be "2D" - it's a mathematical concept only.

Why is it "impossible" you ask?

Because the atoms that constitute an object exist in 3D. So even if an object only had 1 layer of atoms, the object still exists in 3 dimensions.

To have only 2 dimensions means the object can't have height, only length and width. Well, if it can't have height, then it can't be made of atoms. If it isn't made of atoms, then "it" can't exist.

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www.pa.uky.edu...

This site has a diagram and a better explination. This guy is pretty into this phenomom.

reply to post by Cryptonomicon


Besides being an ancient pigment, BaCuSi2O6 is a quasi-2D magnetic insulator with a gapped spin dimer ground state. The application of strong magnetic fields closes this gap, creating a gas of bosonic spin triplet excitations. The topology of the spin lattice makes BaCuSi2O6 an ideal candidate for studying the Bose-Einstein condensation of triplet excitations as a function of the external magnetic field, which acts as a chemical potential. In agreement with quantum Monte Carlo numerical simulations, we observe a distinct lambda anomaly in the specific heat together with a maximum in the magnetic susceptibility upon cooling down to liquid helium temperatures.
© 2004 The American Physical Society
URL: link.aps.org...
DOI: 10.1103/PhysRevLett.93.087203
PACS: 75.45.+j, 05.30.Jp, 67.40.Db, 75.40.Cx
*Email address: [email protected]


I guess that is why I posted this in the first place...it is an anomaly!

I think we found the missing part to our home made saucers!

xD

Pretty cool though

Carl Sagan has something to say to those of you trying to imagine other dimensions.
I give you the flatland thought experiment.

The first thing I though about when I read this article was Intels new 3D transistor.

The technology will allow Intel to create transistors that are faster, smaller and more power-efficient, Bohr said. The benefits of the new technology will range across the product lines from the fastest server to the most power-efficient smartphone chips made by Intel.

Source

I wonder if they are purple Inside.