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Puerto Rico is not a “state agency,” it’s a territory. And an unincorporated territory at that.
Originally posted by boondock-saint
If a state agency can void birth certificates then a Federal one can also.
Originally posted by BlackmarketeerThat stuff about the Puerto Rico is even less relevant.
No, because they are legislating their own birth certificates, their own Department of Health issues, so they can do whatever they want with their birth certificates.
If this was not so, then the Puerto Rico law would be illegal.
Originally posted by CitizenNum287119327
Why didn't Trump, with all his millions,
send someone to the Kenya hospitals with some wads of cash???
I'm sure they would find someone who would show them the hospital records.
Hell, they would probably tear the page out the filing cabinet and give it to them.
Originally posted by CodeRed3D
So the next step is... how do you arrest the President? No seriously, a lot of time and energy has been poured into this thing, but one obvious fact remains. What the hell is anybody going to be able to do about it?
Even if the Administration knew he was an outside agent, the sheer amount of work to undo what he's done is insurmountable - not to mention what this would look like in the history books. It's going to look odd seeing a blank spot for four years of American history.
It seems the easiest solution would be to cover it up regardless how passionately people feel about it. You can prove that 2 trillion dollars was funneled out of the Pentagon on September 10th, 2001. No one touches that with a 10 foot pole. It's hard to rat out someone when everyone is guilty.
edit on 9-5-2011 by CodeRed3D because: (no reason given)
The fact that remains is that the birthers haven’t proven a single allegation at the foundation of their absurd conspiracy theories and accusations.
Originally posted by CodeRed3D
So the next step is... how do you arrest the President? No seriously, a lot of time and energy has been poured into this thing, but one obvious fact remains.
It would be fairly easy and quick. Impeachment, and removal.
Even if the Administration knew he was an outside agent, the sheer amount of work to undo what he's done is insurmountable - not to mention what this would look like in the history books.
Really? The easiest solution would be for the entire government to participate in fraud on a massive scale to hide the alleged true identity and birth place of a black man with a foreign name, from the US public, and essence, the world, instead of removing him from office after being proven he was ineligible?
It seems the easiest solution would be to cover it up regardless how passionately people feel about it.
What has Obama done, that Bush didn’t, worthy of prosecution?
Originally posted by UcDat
seriously if Bush had done half of what he had he'd be in court already.
It’s not a real threat, and I tell you why: because none of things you said would be ‘undone,’ would happen.
Originally posted by TonyBravada
I'm not on the side of birthers, but in terms of invalidating the presidency it would be an unprecedented and absolutely immense undertaking. Everything enacted by the president would have to be undone, including laws signed, executive orders, treatises, and persons appointed to many positions (including possibly the Supreme Court.) ... Luckily I don't think that is a real threat.
The de facto officer doctrine confers validity upon acts performed by a person acting under the color of official title even though it is later discovered that the legality of that person's appointment or election to office is deficient. Norton v. Shelby County, 118 U. S. 425, 440 (1886).
"The de facto doctrine springs from the fear of the chaos that would result from multiple and repetitious suits challenging every action taken by every official whose claim to office could be open to question, and seeks to protect the public by insuring the orderly functioning of the government despite technical defects in title to office."
The key question is no longer, "Where's the birth certificate?" The key question today is, "Where's the real birth certificate?" More broadly, how will we even recognize it when we see it? There are probably more alleged "birth certificates" floating around for Barack Obama than for anyone who has ever lived. And the one posted on the White House website, bearing the weight of the office of the presidency, is highly suspect indeed. A thousand and one professional and amateur sleuths and document experts have examined what Obama has released and found it wanting. A private detective who has been investigating Obama's eligibility for years has claimed the White House release is actually one of three fraudulent versions of his birth certificate cooked up within the Hawaii health department. It turns out that questions about Obama's citizenship – not just his "natural born citizen" status, but his basic citizenship – have been investigated by the U.S. government since the time of his birth right up through the 2008 election cycle. In Kenya, the government has launched its own investigations as to the possibility Obama was actually born there – and found documents missing during the time period of his birth. If there is any legitimacy to Obama's story about his nativity in Hawaii, he may have waited too long to persuade a very skeptical American public. And his unwillingness to release school records, college records, university records, travel records, information about his Social Security number and more have convinced at least half the public that he cannot be trusted to disclose information that runs contrary to his official life story.
Originally posted by TKDRL
reply to post by TheImmaculateD1
Well, good luck with that then....
Originally posted by truther357
And treasonous Dr. Fukino and ex-Gov. Linda Lingle still living their lie-Soros$$$$...Until Hawaii wakes up and stops protecting this criminal POUS ...this international boycott will continue (Who wants Japans radiation and Hawaii earthquakes, anyway) and another reason to stay off the 'Left Coast!'