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What if on May 21st, 2011, "Christ" does "return"?

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posted on May, 9 2011 @ 08:07 PM
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Then we will crucify him again!
Second Line!


edit on 9-5-2011 by Q:1984A:1776 because: I unconsiously typed, "second line" WTF is wrong with me?

edit on 9-5-2011 by Q:1984A:1776 because: I wanted to put the phrase, "second line" back in since people were acting like such jerks over it.




posted on May, 9 2011 @ 08:09 PM
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off topic...what does the "second line" mean. i keep seeing that???



posted on May, 9 2011 @ 08:09 PM
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Originally posted by bittiyo
they are cases which depict different case scenarios


Really? Can I get a second opinion from another religious person on this?

reply to post by ICEKOHLD
 


It's in regard to an ATS T&C condition that sheep keep saying because they think it makes some kind of difference when a mod decides if their post is acceptable or not, but they really don't care about the whole "second line" thing. People who do say "second line" are quite obviously just doing what everyone else is, you would be surprised the amount of people that fall for it blindly without thinking about why exactly they are saying this.

If you have any sense, you don't need to say "second line". If you can look through someones entire post history, anyone who doesn't ever say "second line" knows how to think for themselves, because other peoples trends don't catch on with them.

However we all have the ability to learn, so it would probably be a good idea to stop saying it. I am giving it to you very bluntly and sorry if it causes any embarrassment, now you know.

I am proud to say that I have NEVER said "second line", and I didn't even understand it until recently. Check it if you want, you might learn something.
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posted on May, 9 2011 @ 08:10 PM
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Originally posted by Common Scarecrow

Originally posted by Caleb.K
reply to post by AdmiralObamaGFOL
 


I'm sorry but i have to disagree with you, Jesus is the son of God, and there is no hell. You too are following "man's religion" because the hellfire and trinity doctrines are pagan in origin. They are not the work of a loving creator, no loving God would create a person just to eternally torment them. Yes i agree we have the chance to live in everlasting life, or die. That's the choice. Either you die and are conscious of nothing or you get to live in peace and happiness in eternity.

(However i do agree that the person you were replying to was also incorrect)
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The Bible talks of Hell.

Jesus Himself talked of Hell.

If there is no Hell and everyone gets to Heaven, then God sent Jesus to die for nothing.
edit on 9-5-2011 by Common Scarecrow because: spelling


You do not understand the term in which hell is being used, hell was added into the bible after it was originally written by the catholic church. If you mean the terms hades and gehenna then yes the bible uses them, but it is used to describe either a final resting place, ie. death or absolute destruction ie. dying and not having a hope to live in gods kingdom. There is no fiery torment for those who disobey god, jesus gave us the hope of living for eternity, not to also make sinners spend eternity in fiery torment. That would be satanic. You die and you are unconscious, if you do not follow god your punishment is the loss of gaining everlasting life in peace and happiness, something we all long for.



posted on May, 9 2011 @ 08:14 PM
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Originally posted by ButterCookie
It's either the return of the Anunnaki gods, or Project Blue Beam...

both plausible, except I'm not sure that the Anunnaki has made an announcement of the arrival date


But maybe the Annunaki need planet alignments or something like that to get back here.

Maybe that's why there is a suggested year.



posted on May, 9 2011 @ 08:14 PM
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Hi Ice:

There are still uninformed members who think that by using the expression "second line" they are somehow lengthening a post that is too short so that it is valid. However, TPTB have indicated this practice does nothing and serves no purpose.

All my best



posted on May, 9 2011 @ 08:16 PM
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Last thought as this topic brings back memories and why I no longer believe in the after party theory.

On my mothers death bed the doctor told her there was nothing more they could do. She said, "but I don't want to die." Saddest event in my history. Even now it brings back sheer sadness.

Anyways, This woman went to church every single Sunday. If she didn't go it was because she was too sick. Even then, they came to her after church.

The thought occurred to me that this woman praised God on high all her life. And when it was finally time to receive her reward she didn't want it. She wanted to stay right here on Earth with everyone else. She did not want to go get her glory and sit at the right hand of God and the two thieves.

She wanted to watch Oprah instead of living in eternal happiness and joy. That told me everything I needed to know about all the fakers that go to church. All they are doing is hedging their bets. If he exist then good for me. If he doesn't exist then no harm no foul.
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posted on May, 9 2011 @ 08:17 PM
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Originally posted by Caleb.K

Originally posted by Common Scarecrow

Originally posted by Caleb.K
reply to post by AdmiralObamaGFOL
 


I'm sorry but i have to disagree with you, Jesus is the son of God, and there is no hell. You too are following "man's religion" because the hellfire and trinity doctrines are pagan in origin. They are not the work of a loving creator, no loving God would create a person just to eternally torment them. Yes i agree we have the chance to live in everlasting life, or die. That's the choice. Either you die and are conscious of nothing or you get to live in peace and happiness in eternity.

(However i do agree that the person you were replying to was also incorrect)
edit on 9-5-2011 by Caleb.K because: edit




The Bible talks of Hell.

Jesus Himself talked of Hell.

If there is no Hell and everyone gets to Heaven, then God sent Jesus to die for nothing.
edit on 9-5-2011 by Common Scarecrow because: spelling


You do not understand the term in which hell is being used, hell was added into the bible after it was originally written by the catholic church. If you mean the terms hades and gehenna then yes the bible uses them, but it is used to describe either a final resting place, ie. death or absolute destruction ie. dying and not having a hope to live in gods kingdom. There is no fiery torment for those who disobey god, jesus gave us the hope of living for eternity, not to also make sinners spend eternity in fiery torment. That would be satanic. You die and you are unconscious, if you do not follow god your punishment is the loss of gaining everlasting life in peace and happiness, something we all long for.





God is perfect. That includes perfect justice.

Perfect justice includes living a horrible, sin-filled life, hurting and taking advantage of other people for your own advancement with no final punishment?

Being unconscious is no punishment. That's sleep.

Jesus spoke about the eternal torment of hell. That doesn't sound like just being unconscious.

The best weapon satan has is to convince people that he does not exist and that there is no hell to fear.
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posted on May, 9 2011 @ 08:19 PM
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Originally posted by summer5
This may not be a popular reply, or excepted well...there is no Jesus Christ. He is opposite of what his Father said...I'll take my chances that I'm wrong. I have a hard enough time believing in a god, let alone the "son" who contradicted everything his "Heavenly Father" said.

Christians celebrate Christmas (look up the origins). They celebrate Easter (again, look up the origins)..Good Friday-repeat...Your Bible you mis-read. If you want to follow the "Bible"..do what it is says. The Bible says "god does not change"..yet after the New Testament, he Changed. WTH? How god can change in the middle of the "book" from one thing to another...doesn't any one question that?

All gods word (that does not change) was changed by the son??? So all of a sudden he changed the goal posts? Are you serious?

To me Christianity is the biggest lie there is. They are the ones who "follow" yet will the be the ones cast into the lake of fire (if there is one). They are following the son, with out understanding, and think they are on the right path...I think NOT!


Sorry, but you are confusing modern churchianity with Biblical Christianity. You seem to care that the modern church has gone astray, which is great that you have concern for others. But maybe you should focus on your own personal salvation in the near term so you can lead people to the truth rather than believe that the lies are truth and condemn it all.

As for Harold Camping, I believe he is mistaken. The scriptures very likely indicate that the rapture comes after the tribulation, not before. A very strong case can also be made that the Messiah's return will happen during the Feast of Trumpets, which is in the fall and not the spring. And his math that arrived at the date of May 21st, assumes to know certain exact dates from thousands of years ago which are unknowable.



posted on May, 9 2011 @ 08:19 PM
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Originally posted by UcDat
reply to post by SonicInfinity
 



ps palm Sunday he rode a donkey why does a king ride a donkey? In those days because he comes n peace.
Better be on the right side when he comes this time he's ridding a war horse and packing a sword.




I was under the impression that Jesus and the Apostles said that 'He' will return just as 'He' left...

if you recall , the resurrected Jesus the Christ, rose into the 'clouds'

but befor that... in the 40 some days that 'He' commisserated among the disciples and believers
after rising-from-the-dead...it was told that the 'followers' did not recognize the person claiming to be Jesus/Christ in fact the doubting Thomas needed proof like a person from modern Missouri (the show-me state) and had to stick his fingers into the nail holes and the spear wound of the cruicified Christ which the unfamiliar person in front of the inner circle also had according to the testimony.


But as far as a returning Jesus riding a 'war horse'...thats just metaphor in the sense that He returns to establish a 'Kingdom'...he will seize the power from human kingdoms, & that 'overturning' is equated with 'war'...which is far from the reality of a unrecognized one claiming to be a returning Christ will descend from the Clouds
(is that code for UFO)...
to my senses, it will take a huge ammount of 'Faith' to accept that this UFO transported Alien from another realm/dimension is a long awaited returning Christ from some 2,000 years ago.

thanks



posted on May, 9 2011 @ 08:19 PM
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Originally posted by ICEKOHLD
reply to post by Q:1984A:1776
 


off topic...what does the "second line" mean. i keep seeing that???


I'm not certain but I think it's an idiots way of saying "my post isn't just a one-liner".



posted on May, 9 2011 @ 08:19 PM
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Tbh most people would probably think he's a hippie tripping balls and reply with 'yeah and I'm Moses'..

I, on the other hand, would invite him to play drums in my band.



posted on May, 9 2011 @ 08:25 PM
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Originally posted by Common Scarecrow

Really?

Think about that as reality for a minute, without going for the theatrical, "tough guy" sound of it.


Yeah really! I never met a preacher (disciple of God) who wasn't living like a king. They have the best of both worlds.

Okay, this was the last one. Good debate though. I'm putting you on my respected foe list. PS...I use to believe but I just dont' get it anymore. If I stroke out tonight then I will probably start believing again. Seems like God likes to take the "tough guy" approach also.



posted on May, 9 2011 @ 08:26 PM
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Satan exists and he will mislead many, i believe satan exists. However we were created perfect, we turned away from god and our punishment was... death. Jesus has given us the chance to live forever or die. There is no hell, hellfire is satanic, god has the ability to perfectly judge, as well as forgive.

Also, we should do things to please god, not because we are afraid of hell! I resist satan because i want to please God and be restored as he promised to perfection, we shouldn't do things because we are afraid we are going to burn forever.
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posted on May, 9 2011 @ 08:26 PM
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Originally posted by St Udio

Originally posted by UcDat
reply to post by SonicInfinity
 



ps palm Sunday he rode a donkey why does a king ride a donkey? In those days because he comes n peace.
Better be on the right side when he comes this time he's ridding a war horse and packing a sword.




I was under the impression that Jesus and the Apostles said that 'He' will return just as 'He' left...

if you recall , the resurrected Jesus the Christ, rose into the 'clouds'

but befor that... in the 40 some days that 'He' commisserated among the disciples and believers
after rising-from-the-dead...it was told that the 'followers' did not recognize the person claiming to be Jesus/Christ in fact the doubting Thomas needed proof like a person from modern Missouri (the show-me state) and had to stick his fingers into the nail holes and the spear wound of the cruicified Christ which the unfamiliar person in front of the inner circle also had according to the testimony.


But as far as a returning Jesus riding a 'war horse'...thats just metaphor in the sense that He returns to establish a 'Kingdom'...he will seize the power from human kingdoms, & that 'overturning' is equated with 'war'...which is far from the reality of a unrecognized one claiming to be a returning Christ will descend from the Clouds
(is that code for UFO)...
to my senses, it will take a huge ammount of 'Faith' to accept that this UFO transported Alien from another realm/dimension is a long awaited returning Christ from some 2,000 years ago.

thanks


In my opinion, that is EXACTLY the "Great Deception" that will fool many, spoken about in the Bible.



posted on May, 9 2011 @ 08:28 PM
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Originally posted by LosLobos

Originally posted by Common Scarecrow

Really?

Think about that as reality for a minute, without going for the theatrical, "tough guy" sound of it.


Yeah really! I never met a preacher (disciple of God) who wasn't living like a king. They have the best of both worlds.

Okay, this was the last one. Good debate though. I'm putting you on my respected foe list. PS...I use to believe but I just dont' get it anymore. If I stroke out tonight then I will probably start believing again. Seems like God likes to take the "tough guy" approach also.




Look past ministers, priests, etc. There are just people. Don't use their actions for an excuse too turn from God.

Not looking to be anyone's foe. Just trying to understand all this also. We are all in the same boat.
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posted on May, 9 2011 @ 08:30 PM
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Maybe YOU are Christ!

2nd time


(see what I did there?)



posted on May, 9 2011 @ 08:33 PM
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Originally posted by Caleb.K
reply to post by Common Scarecrow
 


Satan exists and he will mislead many, i believe satan exists. However we were created perfect, we turned away from god and our punishment was... death. Jesus has given us the chance to live forever or die. There is no hell, hellfire is satanic, god has the ability to perfectly judge, as well as forgive.

Also, we should do things to please god, not because we are afraid of hell! I resist satan because i want to please God and be restored as he promised to perfection, we shouldn't do things because we are afraid we are going to burn forever.
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We are going to burn in very real and terrestrial fire if people don't stop believing in exactly what you are talking about.
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posted on May, 9 2011 @ 08:35 PM
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I for one am not a firm believer in the exact Dogma of the Rapture. I believe some Elect will be first fruits to God such as the Apostles and people like Isaac Newton. However, I don't think May 2011 will be that special time.

Jesus said, "Now learn a parable of the fig tree; When his branch is yet tender, and put forth leaves, you know that summer is close: So likewise, when you see all these things, know that it is near, even at the doors." - Matthew 24:32

There are a number of things that aren't happening yet to indicate a climatic end:

People faint out of fear due to an agitated sea.
Powers of the heavens shaken with firey asteroids.
Earth opening up - exposing fissures of lava throughout.
A hissing noise coming from the sky.

Yet God's day will come as a Thief in which to undo the works of the Joker.
Life is but a joke.

I feel the song All Along the Watchtower has an interesting story to tell. The following video displays the song's lyrics.

Go here instead because Youtube embedding doesn't work for this video.
All Along the Watchtower video






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posted on May, 9 2011 @ 08:36 PM
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Originally posted by Q:1984A:1776
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Then we will crucify him again!


edit on 9-5-2011 by Q:1984A:1776 because: I unconsiously typed, "second line" WTF is wrong with me?


*Shaking my head in disbelief at this statement.*

I believe you have it all wrong pal. Jesus Christ will not have the same demeanor when He returns. There is a misconception about His return even in the Christian community.

He went as a Lamb but will return as a Lion. Does this not mean anything to you? I kind of feel pity for the people who disbelieve. I'm not perfect and I run great risk at not being 'taken up into the clouds upon His return.

It's not a matter of 'if He returns' but 'when He returns'. It won't be a 'pretty' sight for those who failed to accept Him.




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