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The internet is our last hope, Mainstream media has failed us.

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posted on May, 9 2011 @ 07:16 PM
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Originally posted by daggyz
To prove the internet is no more reliable... People are leaving Rome ahead of a earthquake on the 11th predicted by a dead man called Raffaele Bendandi. It's all over the internet, and being a place of 'reliable information' they are believing the prediction and leaving.


You can say that 100% are leaving because of this perdiction???? Maybe they ran out of sunscreen..


Originally posted by daggyz
The gullible believe the internet is a soiurce of truth.


Hmmm, don't google how to build an atomic bomb or you'll have some imaginary police knocking on your imaginary door.

Not to say that I believe everything on the Internet, and I sure don't believe that all perdictions are true, but I do believe must people have enough common sense to figure out the bull****.
edit on 9-5-2011 by LAMudd because: because



posted on May, 9 2011 @ 07:21 PM
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The Matrix is a system, Neo. That system is our enemy. But when you're inside, you look around, what do you see? Businessmen, teachers, lawyers, carpenters. The very minds of the people we are trying to save. But until we do, these people are still a part of that system and that makes them our enemy. You have to understand, most of these people are not ready to be unplugged. And many of them are so inert, so hopelessly dependent on the system that they will fight to protect it.


It's just a quote from a science fiction film, but it's fitting when you think in terms of the population that isn't "awake" yet.



posted on May, 9 2011 @ 07:59 PM
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just thought id mention

this place where you are saying that media is the problem

is also the problem

this site acts like its all free and encouraging

they say deny ignorance but theres more censorship here then a the place all military letters go before being shipped out to the family

ive been here for years even though this is a new user name, trust me i know 1st hand



posted on May, 9 2011 @ 08:05 PM
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Okay, I got clobbered by one for my following previous post and no replies from others. But I see now some other activity similar to my off-color semi-serious post of OBL’s skull maybe already being at Skull and Bones at Yale (maybe for years). Improbable but not impossible.

Check out ATS Geronimo thread currently running at

www.abovetopsecret.com...

before you do though please continue and read what follows.

I posted the following on this thread earlier and I'm not going to repost at the other, just maybe steer some "that a way".

However, the lone response that I got suggested that post’s like mine, by people like me will give other conspiracy types a bad name. True or not, I truly believe that as crazy as anything sounds, it should be on the table and let the E-village form a consensus (warts and all). Don't be afraid to ask, "What's up with that?

I was also told that I should clean-up my conspiracy-theory cluttered backyard. I think I will but I would like to DUMP it on the front lawn of the White House. Give BHO another crazy coinkydink to have explain away.

Please though, check out the above post.


Posted earlier:

Geronimo EKIA

When the navy seals called in the results of their allegedly successful raid, they used the coded-words “Geronimo EKIA” (Enemy Killed-in-Action)


“This is just a thought, only speculation:

Maybe THEY can’t release the body because OBL’s SKULL has been at Yale “Skull and Bones” (S&B) CRYPT for years along with Geronomo’s skull, Sadam Husein’s skull, Hitler’s skull, JFK’s skull, etc, etc. It’s part of what S&B does; THEY collect SKULLS. Get it!

Or, THEY were there, on his compound, on May First to ceremonially collect the Head of OBL to finish up his last bit of usefulness to THEM as an asset.

Again, they used the coded-words “Geronimo EKIA”
One more time, they used the coded-words “Geronimo EKIA”.

Also, right after 911, S&B Bush was heard and seen chortling that he wanted “OBL’s head (skull) on a platter”.

There are esoteric levels to everything THEY do. Examine more closely, or at least be more aware, how MSM is CODING things right in our faces through powerful Bernasian/Freudian techniques (PsyOps).

Don’t be so quick turn off the TV completely; instead look for clues jadedly. THEY send themselves (for coordination and synchronization purposes) and We (the sheeple) get clobbered with coded neurolinguistic programming that kick-off events. THEY do this though MSM and counter-intel Blogs. (youtube and see X-Files spin-off pilot “The Lone Gunman” ran 5 month’s before 9/11.

THEY (eg the RAND corp. has HERDED “We the People” into the “ME the PERSON” pasture; thanks to COWBOYS like Bush, Cheney, Obama, McCain. The TRAILBOSSES are Rockerfeller, Morgans, Rothschilds, etc. Cattle company is owned by Lucifer (Ol’ One-Eye at the Top of the Pyramid scheme). A PERSON is a strawman corporation; Not a Free Man, Instead, an EverReady® tax paying serial numbered wage slave.

Just a thought, that’s all. Don’t mean to throw more gasoline onto to the conspiratorial flames (okay, maybe I do because we all burn in the flame of time). Let’s get’er done whilst there’s still time. How? Learn and educate others.”
End of Previous Post

Any other thoughts on this.



posted on May, 9 2011 @ 08:30 PM
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I don't know exactly when about most things, but this for me was a recent development, I guess the media hit me around the time when they stopped reporting facts I could find on the internet but never seen on main stream news and I was like, why are they talking about this when the obviously should be talking about THAT.

So, I studied the news carefully on both sides, left and right for days and what I found left slacked jawed and quite disgusted.



posted on May, 9 2011 @ 08:31 PM
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Originally posted by TheDevilOfLies
reply to post by Helious
 


just thought id mention

this place where you are saying that media is the problem

is also the problem

this site acts like its all free and encouraging

they say deny ignorance but theres more censorship here then a the place all military letters go before being shipped out to the family

ive been here for years even though this is a new user name, trust me i know 1st hand


I also have witnessed first hand what you speak of my friend, I don't know why but am hesitant to say much else about it......



posted on May, 9 2011 @ 08:41 PM
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I remember when the news wasn't bias one way or another. I also remember both political parties supporting who ever became president. It wasn't the left attacking the right or the right attacking the left. The news was reported and anchors didn't give their opinions one way or another.

News wasn't reported unless it was based on facts and they had more than one source to back it up. Now they run with it even if the source is questionable. Investigative reporting was tough and they didn't worry about asking the tough questions. If something was questionable it was investigated. They didn't wait until their backs were against the wall and felt the need to investigate.

The media back then was the checks and balance for the people against a corrupt government and corporate criminal activities. The personal lives of celebrities were never main headlines That was always left to the tabloids or celebrity magazines. If you heard it from Walter Cronkite you could take it to the bank! "And that's the way it was..."


Now you can't believe anything you hear because it's controlled behind the scenes by both corporations and our government. Out reporters are a bunch of wusses! They're worried more about their million dollar contracts than about reporting the truth. The traditional journalism code of conduct and standards have just eroded away.



posted on May, 9 2011 @ 09:38 PM
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I was talking to my grandfather about this and he told me basically the same thing, at one point in time, the media was actually not partisan and shockingly reported the news as it actually happened.

I don't think I have been alive for this but back in his day, I believe it, in those days I think some of the core of what America was about was still in place.



posted on May, 9 2011 @ 09:52 PM
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I'm Glad someone else noticed. Now I don't quite feel stranded all alone out here.
We seem to have entered a abstract form of "Expensive Communism", "Mild Fascism", "Stylized Socialism",
Topped off with a Heavy Dose of Oligarchy, and Plutocracy for dessert. (They are enjoying their Creme Brulee'
about right now). It really is a five or six course meal. Yet no matter how you serve it, the Middle Class is
not on "The Menu". Just so you know, The Middle Class was a Major factor in The United States of America
becoming a World Power so rapidly.

So it would appear that someones trying to destroy The United States of America not only from the outside,
but also from the inside out.

All Hail The Culper Ring, for they held not just some things... but Something Sacred.
S&F



posted on May, 9 2011 @ 10:01 PM
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You are incorrect...they can control you through the internet media just as effectively as the other media mind control modalities if not more so. Many of you still dont quite know your enemy that well "yet" I have determined. Its not something you can learn either.

I'll give you a hint. We do not war with flesh and blood nor do we wage war like the world does...its in that book you call the bible. 2corinthians10.3 & ephesians6.12

You cant win this war as a human....your DnA is contaminated. Only the father can ready you for battle. Im actually sad for the man that use weapons,brute force and strategy in this war. It will not be sufficient nor will logic.
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posted on May, 9 2011 @ 10:05 PM
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Originally posted by Shikamaru
No one sees the original post as just a rant, that slightly adheres to a majority of the mindset of the general ATS population... and nothing more? Nothing has been brought to the table except what most people already think, yet this reaches the front page of ATS?

Is this what we've resorted to? Lobbying and campaigning for something everyone already believes but that most people are scared to do anything about?

Don't give me the "The General Population is Zombified!" antic because let me explain to you... You'd have to be a literal moron, a visually impaired and/or blind, and deaf individual to not notice what's going on around you right now as a US Citizen. Gas prices are through the freaking roof. Canned meat is making a huge climb and it's supposed to be the cheapest meat you can buy. Hell even water is becoming more expensive.

Everyone sees what the hell is going on. They choose not to do anything about it because America is full of scaredy cats, confused individuals, distraction, and consequential fear, and unless you are brave enough to go campaign on the actual streets of the neigborhoods engulfed by this "disease" of a charactistic, you will do absolutely NOTHING to affect today's society.

Going absolutely crazy with PLAIN facts that EVERYONE knows on a FORUM is not going to wake anyone up who isn't already sipping on sugar-induced coffee.

You get no S+F from me. You get a nod that you understand what's going on. Now if I see you actually out on the streets with a crowd of people around you, I will personally go give you a REAL flag and a handshake (which is somewhat equivalent to a star).


do something silly



posted on May, 9 2011 @ 10:40 PM
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Originally posted by superluminal11
You are incorrect...they can control you through the internet media just as effectively as the other media mind control modalities if not more so. Many of you still dont quite know your enemy that well "yet" I have determined. Its not something you can learn either.

I'll give you a hint. We do not war with flesh and blood nor do we wage war like the world does...its in that book you call the bible. 2corinthians10.3 & ephesians6.12

You cant win this war as a human....your DnA is contaminated. Only the father can ready you for battle. Im actually sad for the man that use weapons,brute force and strategy in this war. It will not be sufficient nor will logic.
edit on 9-5-2011 by superluminal11 because: (no reason given)


That sentiment is just as dangerous as the MSM, the last thing we need on Earth is more religious fanatics. Don't get me wrong, I believe in God, I am Lutheran but preaching to those who have no wish to hear it is folly and dangerous.

You can not mix the message, politics and religion are separate issues and I refuse to combine them both.



posted on May, 10 2011 @ 12:25 AM
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I work in Corporate America and I think 9 out of 10 people believe the media totally, if they even take the time to listen to anything about the news/world. If I try to talk to anyone about Japan they look at me like I am utterly nuts. I have had many people tell me I am being "silly" to be concerned about the radiation. I would not dare to bring out the obvious lie of the Osama tales.

We as a nation have forgotten/been trained to not think logically, independently or with a reflective perspective that considers alternatives. Everyone is on auto-pilot or something, just thinking about how they are going to entertain themselves, not worry about their debt (go buy something else) or how they will numb themselves to life (drugs, alcohol, porn, etc).

Ask someone what was the last book they read and alot of them will look at you like you are weird. Everything is now about something/someone talking at them. That is how they get everything that comes at them. Unfortunately for them, they don't seem to realize that everything is deception now (government, business, war, our food, our water, our health care system, all these things have a hidden agenda or truth behind them that people do not want to see).



posted on May, 10 2011 @ 02:22 AM
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Im not so sure i'd call the internet as our last hope due to the fact that a lot of disinformation is on the web. Unless someone is one of those people who believe everything that they read on the internet.



posted on May, 10 2011 @ 05:28 AM
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We here in Australia have two major mainstream news sources and Murdoch controls roughly 60% of the newsprint media. Suffice to say the news generally has a slight left/right bias but as a whole simply trumpets the statements put out by governments as fact without any form of investigation. The reporting of the recent Bin Laden event has been scarily parroting the U.S Govn'ts version of events. The 4th estate no longer exists and instead has been taken over by a complicit, absurd propaganda mouthpiece which is an extention of the overpaid, corrupt and morally bankrupt Govn'ts we see all over the world. We didn't listen to JFK when he tried to warn us and the bad guys are winning. Gaia help us all.



posted on May, 10 2011 @ 06:40 AM
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Yes, internet is one of our last reliable resources, but there are few lucky people that have connections in "higher places" that receive info through radio and documents as well...



posted on May, 10 2011 @ 06:45 AM
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Originally posted by openminded2011
Why do you think they want to get rid of PBS and defund public libraries? A well educated public who can think critically doesn't serve the purpose of the elites. They want slaves who are just smart enough to do the work.

PBS has turned into a Democrat platform.

It no longer provides unbiased news.



posted on May, 10 2011 @ 12:49 PM
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edit on 10-5-2011 by Lebs295 because: (no reason given)



posted on May, 10 2011 @ 12:50 PM
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Originally posted by Scytherius
Can I get an AMEN to your post! BOY have you nailed it. The MSM is a joke. People that call it the "liberal" MSM are fools. The Media has it's own agenda, and it isn't our best interest. They control everything we see and hear. And we are the useful idiots that nod and drool at the latest stupidity they send our way.

I haven't watched "news entertainment" in many a year. I read, I'll watch clips sometimes, but I will never watch any of their crap. The biggest useful idiots are those that follow Faux News ... but the other News Agencies are also loaded with idiocy


AMEN Bro. AMEN!!!!!!!!!!!



posted on May, 10 2011 @ 06:14 PM
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Originally posted by annecares1
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I work in Corporate America and I think 9 out of 10 people believe the media totally, if they even take the time to listen to anything about the news/world. If I try to talk to anyone about Japan they look at me like I am utterly nuts. I have had many people tell me I am being "silly" to be concerned about the radiation. I would not dare to bring out the obvious lie of the Osama tales.

We as a nation have forgotten/been trained to not think logically, independently or with a reflective perspective that considers alternatives. Everyone is on auto-pilot or something, just thinking about how they are going to entertain themselves, not worry about their debt (go buy something else) or how they will numb themselves to life (drugs, alcohol, porn, etc).

This exactly ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

The news is carefully designed to be consumed by "Corporate America". That way when others dissent they can be duly labeled as uneducated, unpatriotic or a conspiracy nut.

The media is doing an incredible job of hypnotizing the masses with useless information and debate while the country goes to hell in a hand basket. What we need to do, is narrow down reliable news sites across the net and find ways to promote those to people we know, start to get them off of the puppet government media and slowly open there eyes to the real issues in the country today.

This isn't something that is gonna happen overnight, but the more people we are able to expose to our stories about what is actually happening in the world and the ability to point them to credible sources to try and open there eyes is a first step and everyone who wakes up is going to wan't to wake somebody else up.

The ball is in our court to get the word out and for each of us to make a difference in the world we are all forced to live in at present, knowledge is power and it will set you free, that's why the bogus MSM is in place, to keep us imprisoned.

Ask someone what was the last book they read and alot of them will look at you like you are weird. Everything is now about something/someone talking at them. That is how they get everything that comes at them. Unfortunately for them, they don't seem to realize that everything is deception now (government, business, war, our food, our water, our health care system, all these things have a hidden agenda or truth behind them that people do not want to see).





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