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Why I think that the Racists have hijacked the Right...

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posted on May, 9 2011 @ 01:20 AM
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Originally posted by neo96
the race card is what they and the author of this thread pull out when they cant debate the issues.

same old tune attack and marginalize the enemy

right out of saul alinskys playbook.

sorry but the race card has been rejected due to insufficient funds please try another card if you want but it will still be rejected.

bah i have have enough of this threads and comments about racism because its straight bs.
edit on 8-5-2011 by neo96 because: (no reason given)


You call it "playing the race card" as if that's some sort of dismissal. You, of course - and all the other ignorant white people (IWP's for short) love to do that. You think that clawing at your face and whining about how someone's "playing the race card" will make an issue that is uncomfortable for you go away.

It doesn't, and there's no reason it should. This is a real issue, and the OP is dead on the truth. The bullcrap about Obama being a muslim, the crazier bullcrap about him not being an American... this is based on racism. IWP's like yourself have nothing else other than to try to capitalize on the fact that he's somehow "different" (different from who? Yourselves, maybe, but not so different from a very large number of other Americans...) Maybe you don't even know you're doing it. That's where the "ignorant" part comes in, I suppose.

Plugging your ears and sniveling won't stop the issue from rising until it's addressed conclusively. All it does is make you look very, very silly when you do it.
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posted on May, 9 2011 @ 01:21 AM
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Originally posted by getreadyalready
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He won the election. He had huge approval ratings going into his presidency. He won the Nobel Prize in his first few months! Obviously racism wasn't all that apparent or effective at that time. I am a Republican, and a Tea Partier, and I voted FOR Obama. I know many others like me that did the same.


I am not sure I understand this. The election was not unanimous. All of America did not approve of him or any president at any time and we also did not all get a say in him getting that peace prize. I do not understand how any of that says anything against th concept that racism is still alive and well.



posted on May, 9 2011 @ 01:29 AM
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I am a John Birch Society Republican so obviously I am quite "far-right" that means the integral part of my philosophy is racism? Even though I see true Conservatism as a belief in individualism, i.e. the idea that people should be judged upon their individual character. Does it matter to me if Obama is black, Muslim, or anything like that? To be honest I would not care if he was a Muslim (although I think that is just a whacky conspiracy) but I would care that he lied about it.

If he was born overseas (and I even cringe at entertaining such a ridiculous idea) then he knows the rules since he taught constitutional law. But neither of them are even remotely true in my opinion, just something made up to attack a person since they cannot develop a strong enough opinion to fight him on the issues.

We have seen throughout history people who play on fear, ignorance, and lies about another person's character in politics rather than argue the issues. That is done only because the sword is mightier than the shield, i.e. getting people to hate the opponent is easier than getting them to like you.

From what I have seen it has absolutely nothing to do with race outside of a small minority faction of conservatives. Liberals seem to bring the issue of race up ten times more than any conservatives that I have heard.

So how about both sides lay off the petty little attacks and stick to real issues for a change?



posted on May, 9 2011 @ 02:37 AM
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and your opinion and the ops opinion means exactly nothing.

personal attack is another tactic used by people who can not formulate an original thought if their lives depended upon it.

comments like those are a dime a dozen on here different day different thread and the still dont amount to jack

carry on

there is ignorance in this thread but think again try looking in the mirror
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posted on May, 9 2011 @ 03:06 AM
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Originally posted by JaxonRoberts

No, I'm saying that if you make crap up that is not based in fact to justify your hatred for the man, that you are just trying to cover up your racism... Hell, I don't agree with alot of what the man has done, but it's based in fact, not BS... therein lies the difference...


This is a completely idiotic lack of reasoning.

First, you are assuming people hate him because they disagree with him. Then you're concluding the supposed "hatred" must be based on his race.

Your speculating on speculations.

That's like saying you are posting her on ATS because you're a loser who has no life, and the reason you're a loser who has no life is because your mother or father didn't love you as a child.

Reading your circular illogic reminds me of talking with my ex-wife....



posted on May, 9 2011 @ 03:11 AM
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Originally posted by TheWalkingFox
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Hijacked?

To say something was "hijacked" is to say it was taken against the will of the people running the thing. No, the right has not been hijacked - racism is an integral part of the American right, and in most parts of the world, conservative philosophy itself.


Is that so! - you might consider that conservative interests dictate that Blacks become wealthy integrated,educated middle class Rep voters.

While lefty interests dictate that Blacks should be kept as a poor, disgruntled, dissafected, resentfull ,crime ridden, ghettoised captive voting block.

Who is it that has had complete administrative control of the inner city black populations for generations now - how's it going for them?- are they living in a super lefty socialist paradise yet!?



posted on May, 9 2011 @ 04:19 AM
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Can you please name specific people?

The Socialist Democrats jump at the chance to call racism
on some one.

Do you know how many educated people of color have adopted the values of the Republican party?

It appears to me the liberals will make fun of the conservatives children,their lives and their Christan beliefs.

They use foul words in doing so.

Liberals can not even have a civil discourse.

The Democrats WANT the minority's to be kept down so they can appear to be on the side of the down trodden..

They continually try to introduce bills that are nothing more than taking away a persons motivation to excel in society.

LISTEN very carefully to this man of color EVERYTHING he says about the liberal socialist democrats is true.

The Republican party wished Colin Powell would have been their nominee in the last election,but he turn down the offer.

Their are MANY people of color in the tea party movement.

You are either very ignorant and have been brainwashed .or you are a democratic shill.





posted on May, 9 2011 @ 04:27 AM
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Originally posted by TheWalkingFox

You call it "playing the race card" as if that's some sort of dismissal. You, of course - and all the other ignorant white people (IWP's for short) love to do that. You think that clawing at your face and whining about how someone's "playing the race card" will make an issue that is uncomfortable for you go away.

It doesn't, and there's no reason it should. This is a real issue, and the OP is dead on the truth. The bullcrap about Obama being a muslim, the crazier bullcrap about him not being an American... this is based on racism. IWP's like yourself have nothing else other than to try to capitalize on the fact that he's somehow "different" (different from who? Yourselves, maybe, but not so different from a very large number of other Americans...) Maybe you don't even know you're doing it. That's where the "ignorant" part comes in, I suppose.

Plugging your ears and sniveling won't stop the issue from rising until it's addressed conclusively. All it does is make you look very, very silly when you do it.
edit on 9/5/2011 by TheWalkingFox because: (no reason given)


Personally I think you are the one making yourself look very, very silly.

Why do you demand that everyone blindly follow and trust in Obama and not question him, or else be labeled a racist? Quite shameful of you, to be honest.

As Americans it is not only our right, but it is out responsibility to question the actions of the President. It's our job to keep him honest and on track. The fact that you want to accuse people of racism in order to quiet their dissent is just plain disgusting. You are no different than people back in the day that would call people who dissent "commies" to try and get them to shut up.

How did this guy get elected if everyone is so racist? You make it seem like 60% of the country hate Obama because he is black. Completely ridiculous and you have absolutely no evidence whatsoever to back up your claim. Obama's skin color didn't change, the American people's ideas on race didn't change. You know what changed? Obama's attitude. He got elected by promising change and instilling hope in people's hearts.

He has completely left those things in the dust. He is not changing anything, he is only continuing the downward spiral that this country is in. He no longer gives anyone hope, now he strengthens the feeling of hopeLESSness in people's hearts. He has betrayed the very people that won him the election, and THAT is why people are attacking him at every turn.

I find it incredibly weak minded of you to accuse people that don't support Obama as being racist. You are completely ignoring the very REAL problems this country is currently involved in, and that Obama is making even WORSE.

You are the one that is plugging your ears and sniveling. You seem to refuse to comprehend that this country is in serious trouble, and Obama is greasing the wheels on this country as it slides down the rails into destruction.

But go ahead and keep ignoring it. Keep obfuscating the truth by labeling dissenters racists. Do you think Obama is beyond reproach? Do you wish to abolish the rights of the American people to question their President? I would really like an answer, because in effect that is exactly what you are doing.

Luckily for me, and for this country, people won't be stopped by your stupid labels you try to apply to those you don't agree with. If you love Obama more power to you. Maybe one day you will see your mistake. But don't EVER try to stop people from questioning their president and seeking the truth. That is one of the only things that could save this country, and you try to squash it by labeling people racist. Just awful.

I'm sure you'll label me a racist now, because it seems your bag of tricks is rather small and taking a page out of the early 1990's liberal playbook and calling everyone around you a racist is all you can do. But I will say this, I do NOT support the "birthers" I think the birthers, and the people like you that try to squash dissent are both equally as ridiculous and damaging to this country. I have no problem with Obama being black, or anybody being black. I don't think I have seen ONE single person ANYWHERE on ATS say they don't like the fact that Obama is black. Have you? Can you link to a thread where someone says "I really hate how black Obama is" No, you can't.

If you take any section of the American population you are still going to find racist people. It's sad, but it's the truth. They are everywhere, in every political party, every state, and they come from every race (not only white people) But they are not the majority of this country. They are not the majority of the Republican party. And they are not the majority of people who think Obama is doing a terrible job. Remember how many people hated Bush and thought he was destroying America? Were they racist too? Give me a break. Come up with real ways to debate people who are anti-obama. Don't expose your obvious ignorance by calling anyone that doesn't support Obama a racist.



posted on May, 9 2011 @ 04:46 AM
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Marxism and Fabian Socialism are my primary objections to the POTUS. He himself has consistently used class and race warfare, both tools of Marxism, though admittedly, class warfare used more by classic Marxists. The Progressives were the original KKK, sorry to inform. Remember Senator Byrd? Progressives also embraced eugenics during the Progressive era. It's historical fact.

www.princeton.edu...

www.waragainsttheweak.com...

www.blackgenocide.org...
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posted on May, 9 2011 @ 07:48 AM
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Fact? Are you serious or just been drinking? Are you from any of those states? I am in Ohio and have relatives in WI, MI and CA not to mention a couple others. (By the way, I don't consider Democrats and Liberals a the same political party)

I travel a lot and have had many civil, intelligent and lively discussions with people of all political stripes. The current mood seems to be swinging back toward the center. As far as I am concerned, liberals are aging bitter hippies whose time has come and gone. I believe that the Liberals will be weeping bitter tears come election day and probably turn against their fellow man as their union overlords tells them to rise up. It will be ugly, but the Left will be defeated ... one way or the other (Fixed for you). We have seen it before. Matter of fact, it’s in your playbook, isn’t it? I have seen the race card brought up by the Dems time and time again. I have seen liberals attack people, vandalize private property and pass slander on those who do not agree with their totalitarian mindset. Liberals disgust me as they seem to be buying into their own deluded dream despite the reality of the situation.

Face it, the way things are going politically and economically the party in power will take the heat. I do not like President Obama’s policies, nor was I a fan of the Bush admins. I do not personally know him and crack up at his gaffs just like I have laughed at past Presidents. But the MSM will continue to harp on it and keep the Country divided as it generates ratings. I have still been called a racist by people who think they know me and what is best for me. Meh, Liberals remind me of Jehovah Witnesses with the exception that the Witness folk are much more polite and don't spray spittle all over me shouting vile words.

I have voted across the political spectrum because I look at the candidate and his/her actions/opinions/voting record, not their party. I can think for myself, thank you very much and I am no ones shill. When will people wake up and free their mind. Vote for the individual, not the party.

The OP is right to a degree though, the Far Right will never hold high office, but is wrong that this Admin will continue. President Obama is a one termer, just like Carter.

Remember, this is not what Democracy looks like. Why? Because we live in a Republic.

edit on 9-5-2011 by TDawgRex because: grammer fix



posted on May, 9 2011 @ 07:53 AM
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There are several threads here which are thinly veiled racism - or just plain stupidty - and I think that the ATS community is a cross section of what you get in America, particularly the lazy posters who do no research and make obnoxiously ignorant statements like "it took Obama SIXTEEN HOURS to act against Bin Laden".

Cenk Uygur put together several recent racialist GOP statements- and its clear- that the way for them to generate popular support for their unpopular oligarchical policies is to play a southern strategy. These tenther bills, the birther movement, and the president is a secret muslim bit are all sides of the same racist coin.

Agree with Obama or not, I like Chris Rock's definition of when America will have overcome racism- that's when we can have a mediocre black man be elected president... and while I don't think Clarence Thomas is interested or Herman Caine can win- the day may soon as well come...

unfortunately for the right, Obama is not a mediocre black man.



posted on May, 9 2011 @ 08:17 AM
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Obama was the first to use the race card as I remember. I think he called the Cambridge, Massachusetts Police officer a "racist", just a few weeks into his administration. The college professor was totally out of line but that didn't stop the charges of racism.

The left has been using the race card at every occasion, since day one of this administration, to intimidate and silence the right. These days, everything the right does is considered a form of racism.

I believe most Americans know who the real "racists" are in this country, and this thread is just another indication of this bit of hypocracy and will play a big part in the 2012 Presidential election.



posted on May, 9 2011 @ 08:20 AM
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Originally posted by TheWalkingFox
Plugging your ears and sniveling won't stop the issue from rising until it's addressed conclusively. All it does is make you look very, very silly when you do it.
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It seems the ones doing all the "sniveling" as you say are the one using the race card, because they have nothing else to use. I suppose that if I said obama hasn't done one thing even remotely good for the country, that would probably make me racist?
Lets take obama's idea for "Cash for Clunkers", that was a good idea and would've been a big help to the American car makers and I would've had a little respect for the man, but then he blew it by caving and allowing imports into the program too. So what respect I was going to give him on that went right out the window. Does that make me a racist? In this PC world gone mad, probably.



posted on May, 9 2011 @ 08:28 AM
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Originally posted by glome
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There are several threads here which are thinly veiled racism - or just plain stupidty - and I think that the ATS community is a cross section of what you get in America, particularly the lazy posters who do no research and make obnoxiously ignorant statements like "it took Obama SIXTEEN HOURS to act against Bin Laden".

Cenk Uygur put together several recent racialist GOP statements- and its clear- that the way for them to generate popular support for their unpopular oligarchical policies is to play a southern strategy. These tenther bills, the birther movement, and the president is a secret muslim bit are all sides of the same racist coin.

Agree with Obama or not, I like Chris Rock's definition of when America will have overcome racism- that's when we can have a mediocre black man be elected president... and while I don't think Clarence Thomas is interested or Herman Caine can win- the day may soon as well come...

unfortunately for the right, Obama is not a mediocre black man.



Um.....do you have the slightest hard evidence of Obamas 'outstanding' intellectual abilities?

Because as far as I know he has made sure that none of his school college university records ever see the light of day - understandable I suppose since they would reveal what name and nationality he was using at the time.

So what exactly do you base your claim for Obamas acumen on!

Surely not the books - they have been analysed by literary experts and concluded to have been written by other people - Bill Ayers has admitted as much several times.



posted on May, 9 2011 @ 11:03 AM
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Racists have not hijacked the right, but due to the bought and paid for liberal media it only seems that way. Every group on every side has their fair share of racists.



posted on May, 9 2011 @ 11:16 AM
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Originally posted by Scytherius
In CA, the Latino population has sent the Right away for good. All that is left is the mopping up.
It will be ugly.

Wow. Just wow. I invite you to fly out & be my guest & I personally
will take you around & show you what a 3rd world hell hole
this place is. I can't wait to get back to the midwest.

Yes, it will be ugly but I will be kicking in some commie/reds/marxists
If it comes down to that.



posted on May, 9 2011 @ 11:20 AM
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There are certainly racist people who do not support Obama.

However, go back and read the OP's first post.



posted on May, 9 2011 @ 11:22 AM
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Like who?

Care to name some examples?



posted on May, 9 2011 @ 11:38 AM
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If anything, giving the gent a constant pass on his absolute incompetence is racist. It implies that he does not deserve the same level of scrutiny as a white president. Obama has the most favorable press treatment of any president in modern history. The race card is trumped out when ever his incompetence is highlighted.

This is the most partisan President in recent history, perhaps the last 70 years. He has no desire to even discuss middle ground, let alone negotiate for it. That kind of ideological leadership generates strong emotions. Now you can infer that those motivations are based on a hatred of the man's race all you want. It does not jive with the notion however that his personal popularity remains high, despite the general opinion of many about his effectiveness as a President.

Who were the folks who burned Bush's figure in effigy? Texas haters? Who were the folks who consistently called Clinton trailer trash, hillybilly haters? The folks who spouted the nonsense that Reagan was a hollywood idiot, movie star haters.

Sorry, but the gent is the POTUS, the most powerful person in the world and in a position where his decisions and actions can have lasting impact on not only the country, but the world. Its a tough job and creates tough opposition.

Get over the fact that he's got a job a bit tougher than tossing spiff to pressure groups and union thugs within the wards of Chicago.

We don't need and can't afford someone in this office who can't handle the heat.



posted on May, 9 2011 @ 11:50 AM
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Though we as readers of your thread can clearly conclude that your a follower of Obama, are you seriously trying to defend your stand point by introducing nothing more than emotionally driven responses? Do you not have any constructive facts or viable evidence to proof your theory?

Suggesting that we the people of sound mind simply ask questions, or confront authority, are now deemed " Racists" just because we dont have the same view as yours, suggests a straw man argument.

* Obama's questionable name= check
* Expanded on Bush Jr.s infringing policies= check
* Questionable acts as POTUS = check
* Marketed a possible lie about BL = check

These above are examples on how to present your case. Which clearly you have not done. I suggest instead of buying into the left vs right paradigm, identify with clear cut specifics then go from there.




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