China is now #2 economy

Might want to watch some nation's rise to power carefully. China is now the #2 economy (even jumping over Japan ). Iran, a potential threat, is even higher than Taiwan. Another threat is Russia, now ranking at #10.

It's funny how S. Korea is at #12 whilst N. Korea is located at #99. I wouldn't overestimate N. Korea. Most of their population will die off due to starvation and the like if the leadership doesn't cease their ignorance of the people.

Anyways, I've provided the following link of the world economies below. The site claims to be drawing their information from the "CIA World Factbook." Seems pretty reliable. This is for the year 2003:

www.photius.com...

Wow Bill Gates is worth more than alot of countries.

Bill Gates $31,876,185,943

84 Uganda $ 31,000,000,000
85 El Salvador $ 30,000,000,000
86 Lithuania $ 29,200,000,000
87 Azerbaijan $ 27,000,000,000
88 Cameroon $ 27,000,000,000
89 Zimbabwe $ 27,000,000,000
90 Uruguay $ 26,500,000,000
91 Turkmenistan $ 26,000,000,000
92 Cuba $ 25,900,000,000
93 Serbia and Montenegro $ 25,300,000,000
94 Paraguay $ 25,000,000,000
95 Cote d'Ivoire $ 24,500,000,000
96 Jordan $ 22,800,000,000
97 Tanzania $ 22,500,000,000
98 Oman $ 22,400,000,000
99 Korea, North $ 22,000,000,000
100 Bolivia $ 21,000,000,000
101 Latvia $ 20,000,000,000
102 Luxembourg $ 20,000,000,000
103 Cambodia $ 19,700,000,000
104 Lebanon $ 19,300,000,000
105 Mozambique $ 19,200,000,000
106 Afghanistan $ 19,000,000,000
107 Honduras $ 17,600,000,000
108 Panama $ 17,300,000,000
109 Qatar $ 17,200,000,000
110 Angola $ 16,900,000,000
111 Senegal $ 16,200,000,000
112 Guinea $ 15,900,000,000
113 Yemen $ 15,700,000,000
114 Estonia $ 15,200,000,000
115 Botswana $ 15,100,000,000
116 Georgia $ 15,000,000,000
117 Albania $ 14,000,000,000
118 Burkina Faso $ 13,600,000,000
119 Kyrgyzstan $ 13,500,000,000
120 Mauritius $ 13,200,000,000
121 Nicaragua $ 12,800,000,000
122 Armenia $ 12,600,000,000
123 Namibia $ 12,600,000,000
124 Madagascar $ 12,600,000,000
125 Haiti $ 12,000,000,000
126 Trinidad and Tobago $ 11,100,000,000
127 Moldova $ 11,000,000,000
128 Chad $ 10,000,000,000
129 Macedonia, The Former Yugoslav Republic of $ 10,000,000,000
130 Jamaica $ 10,000,000,000
131 Laos $ 9,900,000,000
132 Bahrain $ 9,800,000,000
133 Mali $ 9,800,000,000
134 Cyprus $ 9,400,000,000
135 Rwanda $ 9,000,000,000
136 Zambia $ 8,900,000,000
137 Niger $ 8,800,000,000
138 Macau $ 8,600,000,000
139 Tajikistan $ 8,000,000,000
140 Togo $ 8,000,000,000
141 Bosnia and Herzegovina $ 7,300,000,000
142 Benin $ 7,300,000,000
143 Malawi $ 7,200,000,000
144 Gabon $ 7,000,000,000
145 Iceland $ 7,000,000,000
146 Malta $ 7,000,000,000
147 Brunei $ 6,500,000,000
148 Lesotho $ 5,600,000,000
149 Mauritania $ 5,300,000,000
150 Bahamas, The $ 5,200,000,000
151 Mongolia $ 5,000,000,000
152 Swaziland $ 4,800,000,000
153 Central African Republic $ 4,700,000,000
154 Fiji $ 4,700,000,000
155 Martinique $ 4,500,000,000
156 Somalia $ 4,100,000,000
157 Barbados $ 4,000,000,000
158 Burundi $ 3,800,000,000
159 Guadeloupe $ 3,700,000,000
160 Reunion $ 3,600,000,000
161 Liberia $ 3,500,000,000
162 Eritrea $ 3,300,000,000
163 Guam $ 3,200,000,000
164 New Caledonia $ 3,000,000,000
165 Sierra Leone $ 2,800,000,000
166 Bhutan $ 2,700,000,000
167 Guyana $ 2,700,000,000
168 Gambia, The $ 2,600,000,000
169 Congo, Republic of the $ 2,500,000,000
170 Netherlands Antilles $ 2,400,000,000
171 Virgin Islands $ 2,400,000,000
172 Bermuda $ 2,250,000,000
173 Jersey $ 2,200,000,000
174 Aruba $ 1,940,000,000
175 West Bank $ 1,700,000,000
176 Man, Isle of $ 1,600,000,000
177 Suriname $ 1,500,000,000
178 Andorra $ 1,300,000,000
179 French Polynesia $ 1,300,000,000
180 Guernsey $ 1,300,000,000
181 Belize $ 1,280,000,000
182 Cayman Islands $ 1,270,000,000
183 Equatorial Guinea $ 1,270,000,000
184 Maldives $ 1,250,000,000
185 Papua New Guinea $ 1,200,000,000
186 French Guiana $ 1,100,000,000
187 Greenland $ 1,100,000,000
188 Guinea-Bissau $ 1,100,000,000
189 Faroe Islands $ 1,000,000,000
190 Samoa $ 1,000,000,000
191 San Marino $ 940,000,000
192 Northern Mariana Islands $ 900,000,000
193 Monaco $ 870,000,000
194 Saint Lucia $ 866,000,000
195 Liechtenstein $ 825,000,000
196 Solomon Islands $ 800,000,000
197 Cyprus $ 787,000,000
198 Antigua and Barbuda $ 750,000,000
199 Gaza Strip $ 735,000,000
200 Seychelles $ 626,000,000
201 Djibouti $ 619,000,000
202 Cape Verde $ 600,000,000
203 Vanuatu $ 563,000,000
204 American Samoa $ 500,000,000
205 Gibraltar $ 500,000,000
206 Comoros $ 441,000,000
207 Grenada $ 440,000,000
208 East Timor $ 440,000,000
209 Dominica $ 380,000,000
210 Saint Kitts and Nevis $ 339,000,000
211 Saint Vincent and the Grenadines $ 339,000,000
212 British Virgin Islands $ 320,000,000
213 Micronesia, Federated States of $ 277,000,000
214 Tonga $ 236,000,000
215 Turks and Caicos Islands $ 231,000,000
216 Sao Tome and Principe $ 200,000,000
217 Palau $ 174,000,000
218 Marshall Islands $ 115,000,000
219 Cook Islands $ 105,000,000
220 Anguilla $ 104,000,000
221 Mayotte $ 85,000,000
222 Kiribati $ 79,000,000
223 Falkland Islands (Islas Malvinas) $ 75,000,000
224 Saint Pierre and Miquelon $ 74,000,000
225 Nauru $ 60,000,000
226 Wallis and Futuna $ 30,000,000
227 Montserrat $ 29,000,000
228 Saint Helena $ 18,000,000
229 Tuvalu $ 12,200,000
230 Niue $ 7,600,000
231 Tokelau $ 1,500,000

Yep, they're getting up there.
The per capita GDP is nowhere near that of the US though.

This site here has more information on economies of the world including historical information.
www.nationmaster.com...

Here's the top 10 GDPs from 1970:
www.nationmaster.com...

1. United States 1,025.5
2. Japan 206.8
3. Germany 203.7
4. France 147.0
5. United Kingdom 123.6
6. Italy 107.7
7. Canada 85.1
8. Australia 42.9
9. Mexico 39.6
10. Spain 39.0

Notice how much bigger the lead was in 1970.
The other countries are definetly gaining in recent years.

Here's the per capita GDP for 2002:
www.nationmaster.com...

1. Luxembourg $48309.28 per person
2. United States $35991.96 per person
3. Bermuda $34893.45 per person
4. San Marino $33429.35 per person
5. Norway $32797.17 per person
6. Switzerland $31891.17 per person
7. Cayman Islands $30285.68 per person
8. Iceland $30071.43 per person
9. Belgium $29127.94 per person
10. Canada $29002.91 per person

A lot of tax shelters like Bermuda and Cayman Islands are right up there with the US.

And number one spot is right around the corner for China soon.

Makes me wonder what will happen if they were to un-peg their currency?

Who cares. Their GDP (per capita) isn't even in the TOP100. Having the 2nd largest GDP isn't a big deal with about 1 billion citizens.

The sum of all the EU countries totals 10,349,800,000,000 not very far from the USA and a lot more than China.

That is so retarded to sum up a bunch of countries and to say he look we almost reach you The EU one continent against one country and they still cant reach us

I like seeing ALL countries econimes rise.

A well educated, well fed, happy country is a LOT less likely to start a war with another country than some despot trying to take the peasants minds off there starvation.

remember the US is a union of many states, such as the EU will most likely be in the future (it's not there yet, with the nations having sovereign power over their territories), with each nation being a member state with the EU parliament as its head.

The US and the US public wholeheartedly believe in the invincibility of their nation and their economy. But it is becoming increasingly obvious with rising debt and a poorly maintained infrastructure (studies on the US energy infrastructure have shown it is in such a state that it's comparable to a third world nation) the US could be beginning to run out of steam.... but without a doubt today they are still the most powerful nation on the planet by a significant margin. The US has so much potential to do good for this world and for their own people, but sadly they squander it on the military and the corporations are only concerned with making a quick buck.

The world in 30 years will most likely be tri-polar with the US, EU and China as the superpowers dictating word affairs. I predict that NATO will take a less preminent role as the EU nations will not like Americans butting into their military affairs and will probably favour a EU military high command. China I believe will only grow in power and wealth and hopefully we will see a movement from a totalitarian "communist" state to a free democratically elected government. I think it will take a long time before China will reach US levels of living standards per capita, but it also must be said that the US is definitely not egalitarian, with a lot of the wealth in the hands of the few (refer to Bill Gates for an example above) so thinking of personal wealth per capita in the US is definitely the wrong way to look at it because a large portion of the US population would not earn anything like that. Around 35 million US citizens are below the poverty line, Food Banks have to feed 12% of the US population on a regular basis.

Out of the three superpowers of the future, I think that citizens of the European Union will be the best off.

just a few thoughts...

Originally posted by WestPoint23
That is so retarded to sum up a bunch of countries and to say he look we almost reach you

The EU one continent against one country and they still cant reach us

All EU countries together sum up more than the 10 billion of the USA, I don't know what's so funny about it.

Isn't the international redistribution of wealth and jobs great?

From your pocket to Bennotville to China!

We're rolling back prices to destroy your economy!

Originally posted by WestPoint23
That is so retarded to sum up a bunch of countries and to say he look we almost reach you

The EU one continent against one country and they still cant reach us

In economic matters, as in others, all the countries of the EU are bound to the EU rules as if they are just one country, thats why i made the sum. That was the idea for the creation of the EU.

Originally posted by drfunk
remember the US is a union of many states, such as the EU will most likely be in the future (it's not there yet, with the nations having sovereign power over their territories), with each nation being a member state with the EU parliament as its head.

I dont think its a very fair compare the EU countries to the states of the United States. Each country in the EU is its own sovereign nation many with there own language and culture. I think this is one thing that makes Europe really great. I think it would be sad for the EU to become like America and for all those countries to become countries in name only.

That is so retarded to sum up a bunch of countries and to say he look we almost reach you The EU one continent against one country and they still cant reach us

Westpoint (wishful thinking I think), why do you always have to bash everyone who has the good fortune not to be an American? You say one continent can't beat one country, but if you take a look at a map, you will find that the CONTINENTAL United States (thats right, continental) is prob bigger in land mass than the EU countries. The US occupies the vast majority of the North American continent, so this biased and prejudiced remark just shows your complete ignorance and lack of knowledge about anything that doesn't revolve around the USA. Our standard of living here in Europe is on the whole better than in the US. We have free health care, education, real democracy.. we're all happy! Can you truly say that the US population has the same benefits and is content with their standard of living?

Originally posted by stumason

Our standard of living here in Europe is on the whole better than in the US. We have free health care, education, real democracy.. we're all happy! Can you truly say that the US population has the same benefits and is content with their standard of living?

''We're all happy'', Come on Im sure with millions of people I kind find alot of people that are not happy. Your painting a picture that Europe is some perfect Utopia. I know your goverments are not perfect and free of all corruption.

Well, I have to admit that we're not all happy. Including myself!!

But I was merely illustrating a point that whilst our earnings are slightly less than the US, we get alot more in return from our Gov's, including healthcare, education and the like, not to mention sound environmental policies. And as such, generally lead a better quality of life.

( Norway apparently is the best place in the world to live, but sadly not an EU country)

I agree most countries in Europe are a great overall place to live. Though I cant say all counties like some ex-soviet block ones are all that great. But overall you are right it is a great place not perfect but no where is perfect after all.

Yeah, the new ones that have just joined have a way to go before they reach the same standard, but just being part of the EU will make that process faster.

On the whole I don't think the US would be a bad place to live, its just the big disparity between the rich and poor, and the rampant capitalism that seems to overshadow everything. If the US Gov spent just a portion of their defence budget on some social and political reforms (ie Health care, social benefits, and a more representative government) I think you could have the American Dream back again.

Yea, I could just imagine if Nasa got a portion of the military budget.Which I would be all for having more of my taxes going to NASA. We would already have colonies on the Moon or Mars. Or like you said about healthcare we could have one kick A$$ health care system.

One thing I hope for about the EU is that they produce a top notch space program. We need other countries/super powers to push for a friendly space race

yeah, that would be sweet, now that the Chinese have got in on the act, and they are incredibly ambitious!!

I am personally not worried about the rise of other nations, like China, into the realms of superpowerdom, as they are not beligerent like the old Soviets. It would be good to have a balance again in the world, for then humanity would benefit as we would all have to co-operate with each other rather than fight as it would not be worth it. Then great things could be done.

Go China!!