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Originally posted by sabbathcrazy
Well if you look threw out history we see them in paintings. Their are some reports threw out history of just siting them and there are some reports of them living with us. I believe they are living with us, your closest friend cloud be a alien. If you look in the deepest depths of recorded history you will find them. Its all most as if they have all ways been with us. Image this a alien race that has a life span of 100's or even 1000's of years (possibly immortality if they have the right technology, this not far fetched, we have hieroglyphs in Egypt witch show the Egyptians playing with DNA,
we have mummy's witch DNA is preserved, maybe its some kind of cloning technology, if you google you will find that we have clones a mummy.) This could be a experiment, if this race has the capability to travel in space then they might be using us as a science experiment. The same way that we do with mice and another animals witch we consider less superior.
Who knows, they could have created this planet. Who knows the flying saucers and alien beings witch people report all the time could be a races of intelligent beings with have all ways lived hear and "evolved" faster then us hiding in the shadows to have a edge over us. Who knows, when the day does come I would not except their story of who they are and why they are hear to be true. So we may never know.
Originally posted by vexati0n
reply to post by SaturnFX
Homo Sapiens has a fossil and genetic record. There are no anomalous genes in our DNA that can't be (quite easily) explained by simple mutation and evolution. Our DNA is 98% similar to chimps; evidence of our migratory history provides adequate explanation for differences in race; and our civilizations descend from a primary one in the area of Iraq. Myths of floods and gods are common - there are numerous explanations, the simplest of which do not include extraterrestrials.
My point here is not to simply say "aliens can't exist because I don't own one as a pet," or something ridiculous like that. I'm just saying I refuse to believe, or even consider the direct involvement in our history (much less in our genome) by extraterrestrials, until something is discovered that makes that explanation considerably simpler than the explanations we have so far.
I am a skeptic, but my threshold for belief is lower than most other skeptics'. I don't ask for direct, positive proof of aliens - only for a scenario to exist or for perplexing evidence to be discovered, for which aliens are the most likely explanation.
Originally posted by vexati0n
On the surface, your argument has some merits. And I don't want to shoot it down - but here are a couple of things that get in the way of my simply opting for Aliens as the simplest answer.
1. The Agricultural Revolution. For tens of thousands of years, humans who were (demonstrably) genetically identical to ourselves lived in nomadic tribes - the hunter/gatherers. All that time, our species was able to survive relatively successfully as barely-civilized packs of predators. But, eventually we discovered agriculture, which allowed us to live in permanent settlements, expand our population, and have the time and tools necessary to invent other things as well. Our technological advancement has always occured on a J-curve, in fact that is why a few years ago there was talk of a "technological singularity." Our advancements each allow for further advancements, and the time between advancements shrinks at an accelerating rate. So it's really no surprise that we spent a very long time doing practically nothing, but then civilization exploded with the Agricultural Revolution. It's a simpler, verifiable hypothesis with actual evidence, and it doesn't need the involvement of Aliens.
2. Pyramids. This is fairly simple one, too. Leaving out for now the methods with which these structures were built or the astronomical precision with which they were (or weren't) constructed, it's no real mystery why so many peoples in so many different places built pyramids. They are, after all, the only way to build very tall structures with limited materials and without advanced construction technology. A large structure built with stone blocks has to be a pyramid - anything else will collapse, and will be impossible to construct anyway, without advanced cranes or materials (steel, etc.) that just weren't available.
I'm not a geneticist so I can't speak to the chromosome fusion - I will have to look into that a little more and I thank you for bringing that up. My preliminary foray into some science journals and discussions on the matter seems to bring up a consensus among scientists who (in the process of refuting "Intelligent Design") don't find such fusions all that uncommon in the animal world in general, or any evidence at all of direct manipulation of our genome. Anyway I will keep reading.
Originally posted by EnigmaAgent
Alot of people in Britiain don't realise how unatural our patchwork land is.