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Originally posted by splitlevel
So for those who really do want to be enlightened, I will tell you my experience.
I never read a book of any kind about any subject.
I meditated for years without realising what zen meditation was.
then one day it hit me, out of the blue.
You remember who you really are.
The idea of waking up may be quite a disturbing one.
I understand people who want to stay asleep, believe me.
Its not much fun seeing how everyone is living diluded lives and chasing an illusion to be happy.
its not an easy place to be on the outside.
At least I know its all just a ridiculous game.edit on 8-5-2011 by splitlevel because: spelling mistakes
Originally posted by splitlevel
Originally posted by User8911
reply to post by splitlevel
Of course we want to all achieve it, we already know we live in a lie.
You say you have felt it but prefer ignorance? I think you are even blinder.
You left this gift for money, that what I see.
No, it has nothing to do with money.
if everyone is deep in a delusion, or what some call the matrix, once you awaken its very difficult to relate to people again. Afterall you live in a world of people and its very lonley being the only one who can see things for what they are.
i tried explaining to some people, especially those I knew were in alot of mental pain, how to awaken, but they could not understand me or really they did not want to because what they seek is not enlightenment but the material world, and the idea of leaving what you know as yourself behind is scary to most people. Afterall you have know yourself your whole life, or you think you do. What you know to be yourself is not yourself, its just an illusion.
edit on 8-5-2011 by splitlevel because: spellings
Originally posted by splitlevelits very lonley being the only one who can see things for what they are.
Originally posted by jimnuggits
Enlightenment is a direct, tactile experience in which the participant becomes part of the Great Oneness (again).
The experience leads to life long independence of mind, which can lead to awkward social situations, to say the least. But even Enlightenment has a positive and negative lens you can look through. There are more levels, more definitions and more experiences than one Enlightened person can know.
Enlightenment is a smile on a dog.
I hope I dont offend you as its not really my aim...but your words sound quite pretentious and if your insulted know its only your ego thats been insulted and not you. this is my point. the more you learn atually takes you further in the wrong direction.
how does a spider build its web? By learning from others -no. Like ive said before if a spider read a bunch of peoples opinions and directions its head would be full of confusion and not clarity. the spider would not know how to build its web, if it listened to theories, instead the spider would likley starve to death. Is this not what we see with human beings.
I think he's making light of the difference between consulting a dream dictionary and recognizing the personal message to oneself.
Originally posted by arbitrarygeneraiistWhat exactly makes your attempt at reaching enlightenment more legitimate than the attempt someone else is trying to make at reaching or understanding the concept of enlightenment?
Originally posted by jimnuggits
Enlightenment is a direct, tactile experience in which the participant becomes part of the Great Oneness (again).
The experience leads to life long independence of mind, which can lead to awkward social situations, to say the least. But even Enlightenment has a positive and negative lens you can look through. There are more levels, more definitions and more experiences than one Enlightened person can know.
Enlightenment is a smile on a dog.
That might make the dream dictionary a little hard to use.
Everybody is different