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The Gulf Breeze incident

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posted on May, 8 2011 @ 03:28 AM
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Gulf Breeze Incident

This controversial case is one of my personal favorites. It has some nice photographs of a UFO along with the classic abduction case and multiple eyewitnesses. It takes most aspects of Ufology and ties them all together nicely.

Does anyone else here have any takes on this incident? I know it is both controversial and hard to believe in some aspects, however, it is a very interesting case none the less.




posted on May, 8 2011 @ 03:56 AM
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I remember reading a book about this incident years ago, i always had a feeling it was real. I think that after Ed Walters left his home the new owners found some sort of UFO model but i have always thought this suspicious. Would he be stupid enough to leave a model in the first place? Or was it a plant by some dis info government group? I especially loved the photo's he took.



posted on May, 8 2011 @ 05:19 AM
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Good story mate. see I have at least 20 of these ufo's/ encounters in Australia, I would believe these are true before some one who has taken footage of a satellite or bugs in night vision then posts it up on you tube,

I dare wouldn't post them up, why because I reckon your thread will be lucky if it hits 2 pages, Sadly others see ice from nasa footage as a ufo, and that's sad and it runs for days because there is nothing between their ears and they don't think/ or search

Good thread mate. gotta love the older ones before the digi age, even if there really isn't any hardcore so called proof, what ever that means

Wal



posted on May, 8 2011 @ 05:20 AM
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It seems likely it was planted by the reporter who came to the new residents asking if they had found anything like it. An examination of the model showed it was made from house plans Ed drew after the UFO sightings had ended. The plans were thrown out because the couple who had requested them decided not to build in Gulf Breeze. It seems someone fished them out of Ed's garbage. There would have been plenty of opportunity to plant the model since the house sat empty for 8 months. As a fairly wealthy man Ed was able to buy the house they moved into before the old one had sold.

I was a MUFON State Section Director in FL in the early 1990s. I made several trips to Gulf Breeze at my own expense and not representing MUFON to try and learn more. I have talked at length with several of the lead investigators and briefly on the phone with Ed. The photos have never been discredited and neither has Ed's story. One teenager, Tommy Smith, came forward and said he helped Ed hoax them but he was proven a liar when Dr. Maccabee showed the methods he claimed were used didn't work. Tommy Smith's dad was a lawyer running against Ed in a political race for a town council seat. I suspect the dad was trying to use his son to discredit Ed.

I also have an unpublished book by Bruce Maccabee that is a kind of summation of whole Gulf Breeze incident and he concludes it was probably real. The Gulf Breeze Sightings by Ed Walters and his wife is worth reading if you can find a copy of it. I have asked Bruce to let me host his book on a website a few years ago but he declined saying a recent tv special on the incident had generated new interest and he was going to see if he could get it published again. I haven't contacted him since then to see if he's changed his mind.



posted on May, 8 2011 @ 06:19 AM
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Thanks for that info. Its great that someone with inside info posted in this thread. Thanks sir



posted on May, 8 2011 @ 07:56 AM
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For several years, the MUFON group had stood behind Walters along with Navy physicist Dr. Bruce Maccabee. The large amount of criticism and controversy finally broke the resolve of MUFON, and they withdrew their support in 1990. MUFON investigators Rex and Carol Salisberry released this statement:


"We believe that UFOs exist. We entered this investigation with a natural and favorable bias toward the Walters case, but our investigation and analysis lend to the conclusion that several, if not all of the photos are probable hoaxes."

if i have my way, i'd like to reopen this case but this time i would be investigating why and how did these "MUFONs"come to such conclusion...i think the family feud of the walters and smiths was just a very convenient story to hogwash this extraordinary event...



posted on May, 8 2011 @ 08:33 AM
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Thanks for that wasko, the theories you put forward are most likely true.



posted on May, 8 2011 @ 08:41 AM
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Cool I havent seen anyone discuss this one in a while. The cool part is I grew up there in the from 82-94. I never did decide if I thought it was real or faked and I never saw anything other than massive military activity. Seems like there was like 3-4 bases in the surrounding area if I remember correctly. My pop was an air traffic controller in Pensacola and he said "sure we have seen some odd blips on the screen" but he never really said what he thought they were.



posted on May, 8 2011 @ 11:56 AM
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Great thread Vrill


Also great to have the opinion from wasco2, who actually went out and personally investigated the case!
I almost did, but had commitments that would not allow.

My armchair quarterback observations on this case at the time were -

If this is a hoax, it sure is a good one!

Point 1 being you can remove --ALL-- Ed Walters related evidence, and still have an amazingly well documented case of an identical craft by multiple independent witnesses (100+) over several days.

It first came to my attention in 1988 during the nation- wide broadcast of UFO Cover-Up Live!, hosted by actor Mike Farrell. (This show was re- broadcast continuously for the entire weekend for some reason, never seen that before!!?! At the time, that action alone gave me the creepy feeling that we were being warmed up for an imminent official disclosure! A follow- up article a few years later in UFO magazine on the production of this show detailed private office meetings with the producer and 'agency' officials wanting to know exactly what he was planning on showing, and it also mentions the long promised 'official' wire- frame footage not showing up until the last minute delivered by an anonymous courier on a motorcycle with blacked out visor who then immediately sped off.)

During this show, what appears to be roughly a hundred residents of Gulf Breeze are shown as audience members and their sightings are discussed.

Unsolved Mysteries also did a nice report on this case. Many independent resident witnesses confirmed the photos as being -exactly- what they saw.

The competition of the local newspaper to first break the story, took the "skeptical" approach and one of it's reporters commissioned a model to be made, which he then took Polaroid double exposures of against the sky, whilst suspended from fishing line on a pole. And that's exactly what it looks like! A model hung from a pole!


He was a bit sensitive about this, and remains so, as evidenced by a recent interview I saw with him where he furtively continues to insist they look just as good as Ed's. (sorry... NOT!)


The model "discovered" after Ed moved out is a joke. Google that thing and have a good laugh. No camera filter in the world could make -that- thing look even close to what were in Ed's pictures. Also this model was claimed to have been discovered while the new owners were "checking the water pipes in the ceiling". (?)

Ed also took video of this craft coming through his neighborhood, and another man also managed to get video, both of which show the same craft as shown in the pictures. It appears to be a few hundred feet up in the air, moving along fairly slowly. Both are night video's.

There is also a row of lights around the bottom edge which appear to be spinning the entire time. Both videos show this.

In Ed's video, the craft is partially obscured from view a couple times as it passes behind trees. Ed can be heard to say "omg, omg, there it is!!" as he is crashing through brush and climbing over objects trying to keep up with this thing. (I believe his video was shown on the Unsolved Mysteries segment if memory serves.)

...Was this craft seen by Ed and many others, ET in origin, or perhaps advanced military. Ed and his wife said they saw a little grey peeking in the windows.

I dunno... but...

A few years later, Ed managed to get a daytime video taken on the beach there, of a large silver saucer hovering in the distance (maybe a several hundred yards or more) silently for several seconds, and then suddenly catapults sideways out of view at about a zillion miles an hour. Slow motion review reveals a zero to acceleration motion blur frame and a half of the object while the background remains still.

The video starts off very jumpy with him running down the beach holding the camera saying "where'd it go?, where'd it go?"... then he spots it and gets the cam up on it and holds steady.


There's my 2 cents from the armchair view.




edit on 8-5-2011 by A51Watcher because: the usual



posted on May, 8 2011 @ 12:02 PM
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