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If You Think Birthers Are Crazy...Think Again

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posted on May, 8 2011 @ 02:40 AM
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You know ever since the whole "birthers movement" along with the controversy that followed started, I pretty much chose to not get too involved and kept my opinions on the matter to myself (sharing with my wife who feels the same way about it as I do....that our Criminal in Chief is a fraud and nothing but a fraud, however I digress). But THIS I had to share because IF I were to ever publicly share my views....well this puts things into perspective far better than I could


Enjoy:





posted on May, 8 2011 @ 06:21 AM
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WOW - 4 flags and 7 stars (including mine) and not one response in the several hours it has been posted. The Obama apologists and Obamanuts must not work in their PAC and campaign offices on the weekend.

My question is; given the vast body of evidence, both hard and circumstantial, that Obama is a complete fraud in nearly every aspect of his personal and political life, why is it that our congress is not already investigating him with an eye to impeachment.

To answer my own question...

I think that congress, on both sides of the aisle, are letting him ride because he is doing the bidding of TPTB. The same PTB that are pulling all of their strings. They can let him destroy our country and then point at him as the cause later. But it is what all of them want. Or more accurately; what their puppetmasters want.



posted on May, 8 2011 @ 06:38 AM
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Wonderful post - glad to see that people are still inquiring into the murky and unexplained past of Barry Soetoro. In an interesting connection to the fog of confusion surrounding this guy in recent events, see - michellemalkin.com...



posted on May, 8 2011 @ 06:44 AM
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The Obama apologists and Obamanuts must not work in their PAC and campaign offices on the weekend.

funny you should say that when the only known instance of organised political propaganda on this website was committed by a republican activist group.



posted on May, 8 2011 @ 07:06 AM
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Originally posted by yeti101
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The Obama apologists and Obamanuts must not work in their PAC and campaign offices on the weekend.

funny you should say that when the only known instance of organised political propaganda on this website was committed by a republican activist group.


Did you even read my entire post??? I let no one off the hook for dishonest and traitorous activities.



posted on May, 8 2011 @ 07:14 AM
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i never saw you infer republicans have organised groups visiting this website to promote their views. I just thought it was funny given the actual reality of that subject


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posted on May, 8 2011 @ 07:15 AM
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When are people going to realize that this left-vs-right nonsense is dividing us even further?

Grow up and perhaps the grown-ups will be more privvy to a discussion.


 
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posted on May, 8 2011 @ 07:42 AM
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Originally posted by The Sword
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When are people going to realize that this left-vs-right nonsense is dividing us even further?

Grow up and perhaps the grown-ups will be more privvy to a discussion.


 
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I think you are the one who needs to read an entire post before you start making accusations and aspersions about my character. Below is the final paragraph of the post in question. Just where do I take partisan sides in it?????


I think that congress, on both sides of the aisle, are letting him ride because he is doing the bidding of TPTB. The same PTB that are pulling all of their strings. They can let him destroy our country and then point at him as the cause later. But it is what all of them want. Or more accurately; what their puppetmasters want.


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posted on May, 8 2011 @ 07:51 AM
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I not only support the idea that birthers are crazy, but I still think most of them are racist. The dude says almost forwardly, that its strange that our first BLACK president has problems showing identification numbers. I want to know if ANY of you sincerely would be asking these questions if the man wasn't black and had a foreign name.

The birth certificate thing is laid to rest, and I don't care to know the guy's name. The doctor's name on my BC is completely unintelligible, I checked. Barack Obama does have an eclectic background with many homes, but that's also because he had a pretty rough go at childhood and was from a broken home.

Any president or representative of this country has full right to change his SSN whenever it has been compromised with little or no reason for doing so. That's just the law, guys. If he changes it, you really have no right to contest that under US law.

But finally, why do I think birthers are crazy? Logic... If this guy was some corrupt megamind who stole the WH, well I can't see any signs of him getting away with anything.

Obama is no more or less successful than any of the shills who have taken office in the last 20 years. With so little affected, why would I even care where he was born? He's not accomplishing anything.

Oh except that my kids will still have healthcare when they're 26. Little victory for me there.



posted on May, 8 2011 @ 08:04 AM
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Originally posted by SantaClaus
I want to know if ANY of you sincerely would be asking these questions if the man wasn't black and had a foreign name.



Yes, I would be asking. I do not want a foreign Marxist running our country. I'm not interested in a CIA creation either.



Originally posted by SantaClaus
The birth certificate thing is laid to rest, and I don't care to know the guy's name. The doctor's name on my BC is completely unintelligible, I checked. Barack Obama does have an eclectic background with many homes, but that's also because he had a pretty rough go at childhood and was from a broken home.

Any president or representative of this country has full right to change his SSN whenever it has been compromised with little or no reason for doing so. That's just the law, guys. If he changes it, you really have no right to contest that under US law.




At least one mainstream newspaper reported on the fake birth certificate released by the White House. This issue is not laid to rest. Not by a long shot.

This issue was gaining traction but has been sidelined by the "Bin Laden" event.



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posted on May, 8 2011 @ 08:30 AM
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You seem to encourage having faith in Obama regardless of logic. I voted for Obama, which I now deeply regret, but then again, I doubt the Republican candidate would have made much difference. Both sides are so completely corrupt. But BECAUSE Obama does have such a "diverse" history, all the more reason his paperwork and history should be scrutinized. To excuse it because of it is ridiculous.

I am white, I voted for a black man, it wasn't because he was black. Now I am questioning the person I voted for and it has nothing to do with his color and I take deep offense to you and anyone else who DARES to call me a racist for changing my support of or simply questioning things. It's a weak and disgusts me you would use such a lame tactic.

Keep watching the MSM, the same mechanism that's deceived us all from day one, if not for alternative news and the ability to speak to each other on sites like this, can you even imagine the how much more ignorant people would be.

History is full of example after example of power struggles and conspiracies, but now that's suddenly impossible? To believe this shows an incredible gullibility, and I know because I voted for this charlatan who broke every major promise he made and dismisses it as "just election promises". It should anger anyone who was lied to, but no, you're more interested in a stupid reverse racism stance. Congratulations.

I instantly know who has ZERO credibility in these arguments, whether for or against, if you are in complete agreement and defend all points blindly, I know to ignore you, only those that can think critically and question at least an occasional statement deserve any consideration.



posted on May, 8 2011 @ 08:38 AM
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Where did I say I defend Obama as president? Never once, I just think this is a subject for ignoramuses. I didn't vote for the man, and in my book, he has been disappointing at best. Now, I do believe in a lot of his stances, such as healthcare which I alluded to, but he's not enough of a leader and gives up good hands so he can be the popular guy on the hill, which he never will be.

All you people are going off of is other peoples' opinions. I really don't care what paper said it was false, there are numerous more who have done their own research and don't agree with you. If you follow the trail and his story, it checks out. I'm sorry I'm stupid enough to take a least a few things at face value, but the whole world isn't just on big conspiracy. Some things just ARE.



posted on May, 8 2011 @ 08:52 AM
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Sorry, but when you make statements like "most birthers are racists" and "some things just ARE", you prove my point in spades.

I'll tell you what, I'll take the "Pepsi challenge" on this issue any day of the week, because once you ACTUALLY do look at all the data, and not just regurgitate talking points, it's painfully obvious what's going on.

The media is good at highlighting the extremists on both sides, which is why you believe in the "racist" angle so easily.



posted on May, 8 2011 @ 08:58 AM
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Given that most of my news comes from the Guardian or Al Jazeera, I think I'm probably far less affected by the American MSM than most.

Where do I see race? Simple. He's the first black president and there has NEVER been a president who's background has been so highly scrutinized. Ever. Please pick out another president who's very first few years of life analyzed and every moment since, and I'll fall off the face of the earth. If you don't see a racial issue there, you're the one being willfully ignorant, not me.



posted on May, 8 2011 @ 09:08 AM
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Not only do I believe that birthers are crazy, it's now clearly evident that they are ignorant beyond comprehension and there is nothing in the video presented in the OP that would lead me to think otherwise. Their ignorance is based on the "Fear" driven propaganda that has become the life blood of the right wing conservative movement. At this point, I have nothing left for them other than Pity.



posted on May, 8 2011 @ 09:54 AM
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You're falling for the easy distraction. Do you notice how often the race card is played not only for this issue but ANY issue the democrats want to defend? They use it because he IS black and and it works, it helped to get him elected, I admit, many of my friends said it influenced their decision to vote for him in the first place, in that all things being equal, they liked being able to vote for a black man to put the whole racial issue to bed. Well, now it's being used against the very people that helped vote him into office. Allowing race to influence a decision either way is obviously a dumb thing to do.

How many other presidents have changed their name, lived in multiple foreign countries, have so many discrepancies in their history and OFFICIALLY work so hard to keep things hidden? To ignore that and just say "it's because he's black" couldn't be more ignorant.

I read some of the same sources you do, I also look at information I know I probably won't agree with, and that gives a much more rounded picture of what might actually be happening. I think if you had more information, you would see things differently.



posted on May, 8 2011 @ 10:11 AM
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Originally posted by Paschar0
How many other presidents have changed their name
Obama never changed his name. This tells me, from the outset, that you know very little facts about this.


lived in multiple foreign countries
Most people believe this to be a good thing, to know other countries, other cultures. It’s an experience and quality that certainly can’t hurt, especially in someone who, not only is our country’s chief executive, but the chief diplomat and represents us to the world.

But it’s telling that “living in multiple foreign countries” is something to be suspicious of for you. It is, however, completely irrelevant to the question of eligibility.


have so many discrepancies in their history
Most discrepancies are complete fiction — as seen above by your belief that Obama changed his name — and the others aren’t discrepancies at all.


and OFFICIALLY work so hard to keep things hidden?
You mean the lawsuits don’t you? Turns out when anyone sues the President of the United States, the Department of Justice has a duty to respond and defend the President. It’s a crazy concept, I know...


To ignore that and just say "it's because he's black" couldn't be more ignorant.
Of course not all birthers are racists.

But if you’re a racist, you’re probably a birther.



posted on May, 8 2011 @ 10:24 AM
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He never changed his name. His step father wrote his name like that on a completely unofficial document. Barry himself, had nothing to do with it.

I also think an eclectic worldly upbringing is something that is pretty refreshing to see in a leader.

I understand your concern with my thought on this, but for you to not acknowledge the inherent racism involved in the VERY IDEA OF HIM BEING FOREIGN is hilarious to me. None of this would be an issue if the man was white and was named Bobby O'Brian.

Also, these legal fees birthers bring up is also laughable. His court fees were 2 million dollars during his campaign to fight birthers (amongst other things he needed lawyers for at the time, just for being a candidate).. McCain's legal fees at the same time? Around 1.5 million. On the other hand, in the last year Sarah Palin's legal fees have exceeded 3 million. I wouldn't even want to see Trump's yearly legal expenditures.



posted on May, 8 2011 @ 10:48 AM
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Look the whole racist argument is weak no one questioned him when he first got in heck 99% of the USA and the world celebrated it. The fact he turned out to be the worst liar and the biggest puppet of TPTB is why he's getting grilled. Fact is if he had stuck to his word delivered even a fraction of what he said he would he'd be on his pedestal still.
So if you want to defend him how about talking about what he's done for the American people rather than hiding behind the race card.

FnS for the OP good vid nails the SIN issue.



posted on May, 8 2011 @ 12:10 PM
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I thought again. They are still crazy.



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