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Obama's Epic Fail!!

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posted on May, 7 2011 @ 05:32 PM
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Here Is an artical from GCN that talks about how "obama threw an osama hail mary and it got picked" It talks about how not many people think Osamas death happened they way we are being told (If it happened at all) Give it a read. I love sharing the articals i find with my fellow truth seekers. www.gcnlive.com...




posted on May, 7 2011 @ 06:24 PM
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The way I see it ole fumble fingers errr obama would've had a hit on his hands (sorry poor choice of words
) if they would have stuck with the first story. But, no, there was at least four different stories on what happend, then the fumble on releasing the picture then not releasing it, now his clamping down on the story of what happened.
I mean the guys on a roll. We have his support for drilling, then a few days later oops the Gulf screw up and bans all drilling. Then he finally caves on the long form birth thing, that falls flat. Now this with osama.
edit on 7-5-2011 by Chance321 because: (no reason given)



posted on May, 7 2011 @ 06:29 PM
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Personaly i am glad to see it had no good impact on Obama. I hope this is remembered as one of his biggest screw ups. Don't get me wrong i'm glad Osama is dead but i would like to know how it really happened and not be lied to about it.



posted on May, 7 2011 @ 06:44 PM
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I guess I'm saddened when I read a dozen Obama references for every link to what's happening behind the scenes.
He's only the front-man for this kind of madness, and I can't see us attributing him a sense of power actually helps our situation when it's easy to tell that he holds it only casually.

This puppet presidency deserves less face value, less of peoples attention. Americans already have all the grounds they need to start a movement to impeach him. The interest transferred to the relative unknowns of the CIA, the pentagon and its advisors, and the offshore interests who run the country would serve to keep ATS intrigues focused on where they might be most useful. Instead, we find so many eager threads concentrating on the man who is strapped into the hot seat, under threat and duress from the establishment to stay on the side of elite interests.

Good summary though!



posted on May, 7 2011 @ 08:34 PM
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No matter who pulls the strings the guy in the seat gets final say over what happens.



posted on May, 7 2011 @ 09:14 PM
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So why were there 4 different stories?

If this was planned and faked from the beginning I would have thought the story would be pretty straight, wouldn't you?

This would also mean seal team 6 was in on it, I didn't realise these guys were not only the best of the best in American special forces but they're the best at telling porkys too....

Here's the thing, you put 20 people in a situation as volatile as the storming of Osama's mansion and then get them to describe what they saw later on.

You will get 20 unique stories.

Then get the story told second, third or even fourth hand and it changes again

This is fact.

It's like that Chinese whispers game.

If everyone came out with perfectly matching stories, then I would say they're lying.



posted on May, 7 2011 @ 10:13 PM
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That settles it some blogger says it on the intertubes and you guys are all over it.

Is it possible that Josh Tolley is a crazy guy living in his mothers basement surrounded by a pile of his own detritus?.



posted on May, 8 2011 @ 12:08 AM
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If this was planned and faked from the beginning I would have thought the story would be pretty straight, wouldn't you?



Not if this mission wasn't supposed to succede. If the mission failed, it would've been a simple story. But it didn't it was a success even with the loss of one chopper, so everyone has to rush a story on the run.
This whole thing stinks.



posted on May, 8 2011 @ 02:43 PM
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There are alot of people saying it didn't happen the way we are being told. Not just this guy. Alot of people like Alex Jones (and i do to) But i like Tolley's Articals better then Jones's



posted on May, 9 2011 @ 01:19 AM
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I havn't given that much thought. Maybe we were suposed to fail. The gov could have used that to strike more fear into us Americans.



posted on May, 9 2011 @ 01:27 AM
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Originally posted by badgerman24
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There are alot of people saying it didn't happen the way we are being told. Not just this guy. Alot of people like Alex Jones (and i do to) But i like Tolley's Articals better then Jones's


The same Alex Jones that works for the same GCN cited in the OP?
Just checking.



posted on May, 9 2011 @ 01:50 AM
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Yes that is how i found the GCN Site. I am a fan of Alex Jones. The GCN Site has alot of diff writers and articals.



posted on May, 9 2011 @ 01:53 AM
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Then I am sure you will understand that

Originally posted by badgerman24
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There are alot of people saying it didn't happen the way we are being told. Not just this guy. Alot of people like Alex Jones (and i do to) But i like Tolley's Articals better then Jones's


Is the same thing as saying that Obama is not the only one saying they got Osama last Sunday, Biden is saying it too.

Sometimes two sources are still just one source.



posted on May, 9 2011 @ 01:59 AM
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Oh i see what you saying. No i ment to make those two diff posts. Right were i say "alot of people like alex jones" That was to a diff person then the first have. It is in a dif context. Sorry for the confusion. I have also heard on foxnews and cnn that people don't think this is happening the way the say it is. I don't remeber the name of the reporter but it was a man on cnn and he said he didn't want to get into it until "the story got straight" I saw him on there on wednesday or thursday. Either way read the artical. It is pretty good, instead of just debting my replies to othe people.



posted on May, 9 2011 @ 02:05 AM
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Already did thanks. Never been a fan of Tolley in the first place. I was hoping I could find all this coroboration but I am having trouble finding "some guy" on either FOX or CNN. Thanks for the clarification though. Hoped you had at least one name unrelated to Jones and his corporate bosses backing each other's feelings up.



posted on May, 9 2011 @ 02:16 AM
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Ok i was not just talking about in the media either. Look around this site there are LOTS of people that don't think it happened. And yes "some guy" I don't know his name to memory i do other things with my life as well bud (try it) and so many people have been thinking its fake that you can google bin laden not dead and get links to big news sites and small talking about it. The first one i clicked on took me to cbs news.



posted on May, 9 2011 @ 03:29 AM
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I really have a hard time giving any value to anything "lots of people think." It is a such proven failed method of judging validity.

For example, "lots of people" believe in Jesus Christ as their one true Savior.
"lots of people" believe it is Muhammed
"lots of people" believe that neither person even existed
"lots of people" think that Taylor Swift is talented
"lots of people" think that Scientology is a good idea
"lots of people" think How I met your mother is if a funny show.

Lots of people think and believe all kinds of things. That has never impressed me. The names of two people that share a breakroom really is not helping.

Anyway, I read the article. I guess I just expected more than just a GCN editorial with and Alex Jones stamp of approval. I'll step back and watch quietly to see how it evolves instead.
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posted on May, 9 2011 @ 08:54 AM
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Originally posted by Chance321


Not if this mission wasn't supposed to succede. If the mission failed, it would've been a simple story. But it didn't it was a success even with the loss of one chopper, so everyone has to rush a story on the run.
This whole thing stinks.


If the mission failed it would've been a simple story -- do you really understand the stakes involved in launching an attach on civilians in a sovereign country -- Kinda like Canada invading Des Moines. The stakes were high on this one. If Pakistan was not informed and I believe it wasn't, because they apparently can't keep secrets any longer than a 12 year old. ( The drone raids have been carried out with Pakistans knowledge and help, we were launching drones from a Pakistani base)

Failure would be ruinous to a lot of relationships. Not to mention the Presidents career, I kind of like a president that will put the interests of the US ahead of his career. But hey I'm old I have actually lived under presidents who were leaders. I liked it.



posted on May, 9 2011 @ 11:31 AM
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Good point but i don't think Obama would have minded a failed mission. It would have opened the door for more fear propaganda and even invading pak if that is what the goal is.



posted on May, 9 2011 @ 12:55 PM
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I'm afraid the fear propaganda was what got us here in the first place.

8 years of fear that have eroded our rights and put people in office who campaign on nothing more that fear -- fear that the government Is going to kill grandma, fear that there is a terrorist under every bed, fear that the other side is a communistsocialistnazifascist conspiracy, fear that the rich wont get enough and the poor will get too much, fear that anyone might get healthcare and the insurance companies will be screwed, fear that the guy in the white house isn't one of us and is probably a manchurian terror baby.

Yeah it is time to pull up the man pants and act like responsible citizens. Terror is only an effective weapon if you let yourself be terrorized.




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