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Originally posted by ~Lucidity
Originally posted by 4hero
Originally posted by ~Lucidity
edit on 5/9/2011 by ~Lucidity because: (no reason given)
1: It would be impossible for the OP to hack timestamps on twitters' server
2: The first twitterer has provided a link to the tweet from the 28th april, that is enough verification! Second twiiterer was someone who lived near the compund and supposedly accidentally tweeted something was going on before the news broke, but tweeted on the 1st may, hours before the official news broke.
3: I cannot be bothered to go back to the exact page to give you the info that states it cannot be tampered with, jeez, 77 pages in and you haven't read all the info, come back and comment when you have read it all! Do your own research!
4: As for fine details, again, 77 pages of many fine details! I suggest you read it all before commenting, then you'll know what you are repeating!
5: there is no discrepancy in the time stamp, the timestamp does not lie, the discrepancy is all in your head.
6: I'm off topic and cannot back up my assertions, hahaha, my info was relevant and the info is there for you to decipher, use your brain. You have not added anything positive to this post, I would say it is you who is not on topic, and are not here for any other reason except disinfo.
7: I will not change my views on your say so. I will not make threads on your say so either!
8: A dude can be male or female where I come from, so to me you are a dude, it is not sex related in England! Freedom of speech and all that.
1. Anything can be hacked.
2. The tweet could well have been there on April 28. We are not questioning this, as you would well have known had you actually followed the entire thread.
3. Don't bother. It isn't there.
4. Count my posts in the thread. Then count your own. I have read and reread this thread at least three times. Then get back to me. Did some of us miss a few things? Sure we all did. But you keep going off topic and making sweeping general comments with no backup.
5. There is indeed a discrepancy between the timestamp of the tweet and the OP's report of the time. Again, if you had read the thread you would know this. It has been under discussion for at least 40 pages now.
6. The topic, again, is the tweet. And looking for corroborating video.
7. Where did I ask you to change your views?
8. I don't care where you come from. I simply informed you I am not a dude. But now that you mention it, please don't call me dude again.
edit on 5/10/2011 by ~Lucidity because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by ~Lucidity
reply to post by kingbooma
Lots of people say that but anything can be hacked. Again, discussed a lot in about the last 25 pages.
Originally posted by Immortalgemini527
Originally posted by incrediblelousminds
Originally posted by Immortalgemini527
Originally posted by incrediblelousminds
reply to post by Immortalgemini527
Saying it's a hoax and actually proving it are different things.
When 1 person out of 7.5 billion people on earth say they saw something or did something that the other 7.5 million didn’t see, its not about proving anything...math never lies, its a hoax , its phony and it never happened, and its not real....Period !
edit on 9-5-2011 by Immortalgemini527 because: (no reason given)
No. A Hoax is intentional. A Hoax must be proven. No one has proven this to be a hoax. TO do that they would have to show how she hacked into twitter and changes the time stamp. This might be an accident, an honest mistake. But to say it's a Hoax without proving it is inaccurate.
She didnt hack it ,she was being sarcastic about what she said dealing with what she was looking at on tv.
She was joking about it and decided she can fool...some of us ats memberrs into believing that it actually happened...it worked ,oh well !
lol,she was making a joke to who ever she was talking to, and then turned the same joke to an ats thread.edit on 9-5-2011 by Immortalgemini527 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Immortalgemini527
Originally posted by incrediblelousminds
reply to post by Immortalgemini527
That's an interesting theory, although if you really think its a 'joke' and a 'hoax', why do you keep returning to the thread. I'm interested in the useful information being presented by those ding actual research, not just spouting poo-poo theories and calling it fact. Bye!
TextI'm interested in the useful information being presented by those ding actual research
You really and honestly think that a conversation that was tweeted in a jokingly way deserves the 'Dream Team' to figure it out...REALLY!
I tell you what i believe what you believe,your the winner,have a good night.
'Research' MY GOD !edit on 9-5-2011 by Immortalgemini527 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by BuzzingOn
A few things that are suspicious yet no one seems to address it.
1) How can a person sign up with ATS as a NEW member then be able to start a thread like this with out having completed their, (according to the tos), 20 post minimum before starting a thread? All of the OPosters post have been in this thread and this thread only all on the same day she opened an ATS account.
2) The title of this thread is "Fox News reported OBL's death DAYS EARLIER!!!, " which in fact is not true because there is NO Fox News video, screen shot or any type of verification from Fox or any of their archived information online that supports this thread title claim, so either the words [HOAX] needs to be added around it or the title changed to "New member tweets to accuse Fox news of their ticker claiming OBL death early"
Here is a scenario discussed among my friends online and off, not factual but curious and makes us think:
The OPoster says she is a journalist, ok, maybe she got a tip about the White House announcing the death so she talks to her friends at ATS and they decide .... hmmm .... the Birth Certificate threads are getting lame so how about you tweet about seeing his death announced on a TV news ticker, (even though you have no proof of seeing the ticker you can at least "claim you did" and can derail the needed proof by saying over and over "look at my time stamp, look at my time stamp, thats evidence I saw the ticker!"), then after the announcement is made on TV you come to ATS, you make an account on how you tweeted this revelation, we allow your account to by pass the 20 post minimum to get the topic goin then wolah, a new exciting snowball runs down the hill giving excitement all over the web and ATS, which is good business.
Things I believe to be the facts:
1) The OPoster "did tweet" on April 28th that Fox news was reporting an OBL death
2) She is new too ATS and was able to make a thread with her first post on her first day about the tweet
3) There is no evidence, so far, to prove a Fox ticker did what she said it did to back up her tweet/claim so it is only an interesting tweet at best
4) Out of the thousands who were probably watching Fox news that night only 2 or maybe 3 people even saw the ticker (allegedly). I bet Fox news would be quite bummed out to learn that there beloved ticker can only capture the attention of 1 grandmother and 1 24yr old, (who was called by granny), in the entire United States of viewers.
Everything else is just heresay, speculation and assumption, In My Opinion. I am not trying to bash the OPoster or this site so please do not take my opinion as such, I am just openly discussing my views at this forum concerning this topic. Thank you.
2.3cents.
Bzzzzzzz
Originally posted by ufoinquirer
Originally posted by ~Lucidity
reply to post by kingbooma
Lots of people say that but anything can be hacked. Again, discussed a lot in about the last 25 pages.
So she does all that work to hack and make those tweets, but then her story about when she watched the Fox news ticker (also something that could or could not be verified) doesn't match up?
This is so not a hoax...why would she hack the time stamp so well, but then offer up proof that can be debunked that she doesn't even communicate all that well? and why not tweet "osama bin laden has been reported dead" keep it vague ?
sorry not buying that
Originally posted by ~Lucidity
Originally posted by 4hero
Originally posted by ~Lucidity
edit on 5/9/2011 by ~Lucidity because: (no reason given)
1: It would be impossible for the OP to hack timestamps on twitters' server
2: The first twitterer has provided a link to the tweet from the 28th april, that is enough verification! Second twiiterer was someone who lived near the compund and supposedly accidentally tweeted something was going on before the news broke, but tweeted on the 1st may, hours before the official news broke.
3: I cannot be bothered to go back to the exact page to give you the info that states it cannot be tampered with, jeez, 77 pages in and you haven't read all the info, come back and comment when you have read it all! Do your own research!
4: As for fine details, again, 77 pages of many fine details! I suggest you read it all before commenting, then you'll know what you are repeating!
5: there is no discrepancy in the time stamp, the timestamp does not lie, the discrepancy is all in your head.
6: I'm off topic and cannot back up my assertions, hahaha, my info was relevant and the info is there for you to decipher, use your brain. You have not added anything positive to this post, I would say it is you who is not on topic, and are not here for any other reason except disinfo.
7: I will not change my views on your say so. I will not make threads on your say so either!
8: A dude can be male or female where I come from, so to me you are a dude, it is not sex related in England! Freedom of speech and all that.
1. Anything can be hacked.
2. The tweet could well have been there on April 28. We are not questioning this, as you would well have known had you actually followed the entire thread.
3. Don't bother. It isn't there.
4. Count my posts in the thread. Then count your own. I have read and reread this thread at least three times. Then get back to me. Did some of us miss a few things? Sure we all did. But you keep going off topic and making sweeping general comments with no backup.
5. There is indeed a discrepancy between the timestamp of the tweet and the OP's report of the time. Again, if you had read the thread you would know this. It has been under discussion for at least 40 pages now.
6. The topic, again, is the tweet. And looking for corroborating video.
7. Where did I ask you to change your views?
8. I don't care where you come from. I simply informed you I am not a dude. But now that you mention it, please don't call me dude again.
edit on 5/10/2011 by ~Lucidity because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by ~Lucidity
reply to post by TrowaBarton
Thanks for the summary, Trowa. Since my last post, I've watched about 3 more hours of videos, for a total of about 15 hours searching and reviewing since Sunday night. (I don't believe there's one out there available online that I haven't seen, but who knows.) Nothing to report. Nothing even close to report. Not a single mention of bin Laden at all. I focused on three shows, Fox Report, Special Report, O'Reilly Factor, and Hannity, and On the Record
.
I have not heard back from either Media Matters or News Hound. Has anyone else?
Also, I've crawled through a good deal more technical information that leads me to believe (and I'm not attempting to convince anyone of this, just me) that it is highly possible someone found a security exposure and exploited it.
That someone may have had a inside connection, that this isn't a psyop or a test of persona software, that the OP simply misread, are still not ruled out for me either. Many seem convinced that the ATS OP and the person who posted the Twitter are the same person. I personally haven't seen any firm evidence of this either.
Again, the topic of the thread is the tweet. If it can be vetted (in every way, including poster, timestamp, and corroborating evidence), even then it simply becomes a strong indicator that there is a discrepancy in the official story.
And even if vetted, all this tweet would prove would be that FoxNews ran a ticker about the mission three days before the official announcement. Proves nothing else. Doesn't prove the mission happened then. Doesn't prove anyone lied. All it might prove is that someone got a press packet or announcement and pre-announced it and blew it.
That's the reality.
Originally posted by ~Lucidity
reply to post by ufoinquirer
You don't even know who "she" is.
Originally posted by ~Lucidity
reply to post by ufoinquirer
The time stamp does not to match the OP's story. This has not been explained, and there may well be one, but I haven't seen it. .
Why hack then blow it? Another (or technically the same) mistake. Simple.
Originally posted by kennvideo
Boys and Girls,
I just called The Neil Boortz Show (9AM-Noon ET Mon.- Fri.) and talked to a nice producer. I gave her ALL the info about the FNC Tick and the woman's tweet, who, what, when, where....and our site. SHE LISTENED AND DID NOT HANG UP...
She said Neil was not on the OBL subject yet, BUT she is going to tell Neil about it.
I told her I will have our great members call. Now, you guys call. Neil is not a fan of the current admin., so we have a chance to get him to look into this.
The Producer told me to also email with the story as well as a double dip. You guys email as well. I already did.
www.boortz.com...
Call them here... Again be nice and say Ken told you to call about the FNC tick and the Tweeter Tweet about the possible when we were conned about OBL's death
1 (877) 310-2100
(404) 872-0750 in the Atlanta area
We will get more with honey than vinegar... I wish us success!!!!edit on 10-5-2011 by kennvideo because: time of show