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2008 8 deaths 2,048 rockets and 1,668 mortars
2009 0 deaths 569 rockets and 289 mortars
2010 1 death 150 rockets and 215 mortars
2011 1 January-March:
61 Rockets + 132 Mortars
If you had said "Perhaps you are right, but notice how similar this is to what Israel does in Gaza", it would probably have had more impact, and would have made for a better point.
Why can't we all just.. Get along?
Even if they do condemn the killing of Osama it isn't detrimental to the peace process. I find homosexual behaviour wrong, however I believe that gays should be entitled to the same rights(wether it be legal unions or what not) that we are. Is my homophobic mentality detremental to gay rights? No.
which has to firstly be approved by the security concil,
Your whole argument is on based on fearmongering and frankly absurd speculation
that they will start killing Jews.
as well as de-flecting any possibility of an intellectual debate in using PA reconciliation to strengthen peace and play Fatah off against Hamas in the manner of moderating the radicalism that Hamas supports rather then forcing them into civil war.
Originally posted by dontreally
And this is my proof (as if anymore were needed)
"Soon after bin Laden's death was announced early on Monday, Hamas's government chief in Gaza, Ismail Haniya, said: "We condemn any killing of a holy warrior or of a Muslim and Arab person, and we ask God to bestow his mercy upon him."
Hmmmmmm...So the very same Hamas that praises Bin Laden as a "holy warrior" is one that Israel should negotiate with...?? Even though this same Hamas has been reckoned as akin to Al Qaida in ideology and tactics? How can Israel possibly negotiate with the PLO now that Hamas and Fatah have "reconciled" their differences? This is merely the left hand clasping the right. Hamas has been the proverbial "bad cop" and the PLO the "good cop". And now that theyre united Israel is supposed to ignore Hamas' ridiculously outrageous ideology and vociferous rejection of a Jewish presence, let alone a state in the midst of Dar al Islam, and pretend that this wont lead to further concessions or possibly war down the road?
Anyways. Digest that statement of Hamas' government chief which came right after their making peace with the government in the west bank: obviously they havent changed their tune and have no intenton to.edit on 7-5-2011 by dontreally because: (no reason given)
ou cannot as a democracy deny people both a nation and as citizes of your own country the full rights enjoyed by the majority and expect to receive little or no media, diplomatic, political coverage of this
Originally posted by ender_shadow
I'll answer with a question - when will the Arab world pay back Israel for all of the Jewish property they stole from the Jews? when will the Arab world pay restitutions for all the Jewish deaths they caused?
There was a comment here by someone stating that Israel created Hamas... let me set the record straight... Hamas was founded in the 80's... Israel did not create it, but Israel didn't take any real steps to destroy it, it was thought at the time that they would become a counter-measure against the PLO... what a stupid, stupid, short-sighted mistake...
Originally posted by ender_shadow
They didn't stop killing Jews ever since Islam was conceived in the 7th century AD... and they were killing Jews in Europe long before the pogroms of the 19th century.
And no one is saying Israel doesn't have responsibility... but I bet I can agree with me that we don't shoulder ALL of the responsibility, that the other side does have it...
And I wouldn't say what Israel does is even closely similar to what the Nazis did... That's going way too far... there are no death camps, no systematic killing of people... that diminishes what was done...
If you want close historic examples? look at Darfur, look at Rwanda, those are examples of Genocide...
not Gaza or the West-Bank...
do you live in Israel? have you visited? have you seen what I see living here?