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Natural Born Citizen Definition scrubbed from ALL online dictionairies<--JUST POINTING THIS OUT..

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posted on May, 6 2011 @ 12:06 AM
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I am not looking for the Definition for Natural Born Citizen...I know what the Def. is....I just wanted to point out that the Definitions that were online, are no longer there.--Thanks to those that gave Defs. though, sorry the thread itself is not clear.

This info is from another message board. I am not sure how much I am allowed to post from there. But, I felt as though it was too important not to post.

Just try it yourself, Google Natural Born Citizen; definition
You would expect you would get a result for some kind of online dictionary. You don't the only result you get that isn't some type of conspiracy web site is for Wikipedia:


BOTH Natural born AND natural born citizen now return NO RESULTS in searches on ALL active online dictionaries, with the sole exception of Wikipedia, redirects to Wikipedia, and quotes from Wikipedia. The reason this is important is because right now, there is an ongoing debate over at Wikipedia due to the scrubbing of references to Emerich De Vattel's work Law of Nations, right after Obama released his long form.



Even up to last week. I have been steadily researching this subject for a few years now, and have read the definition on ALL of the above links. I found this out today because they were all bookmarked, and I wanted to refute the discussion on Wikipedia after they scrubbed the definition from Law Of Nations. As I opened each link, I found that EVERY ONE OF THEM said there was no definition found. THEY WERE ALL THERE A WEEK AGO!

edit on 6-5-2011 by Stormgodess because: Hopefully to clear up some misunderstandings




posted on May, 6 2011 @ 12:14 AM
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Although I come from an immigrant family that came here legally find it very disturbing because it seems like now illegals are gonna come and have instant citizenship
edit on 6-5-2011 by starwarsisreal because: (no reason given)



posted on May, 6 2011 @ 12:18 AM
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Lets pretend this topic doesnt already exist...

www.abovetopsecret.com...



posted on May, 6 2011 @ 12:20 AM
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So sorry! I did a search and it didn't come up.

A bit new to posting.



posted on May, 6 2011 @ 12:22 AM
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The first question to ask is were these there before this claim was made.

Here's one occurrence I found: dictionary.reference.com...

Also? Phrases such as natural-born citizen are generally not in dictionaries, which are for words. In this case, the compound adjective phrase natural-born is probably not considered a word by most dictionaries.Some of these types of phrases do make it in and most don't. That's my guess. Hope that helps.



posted on May, 6 2011 @ 12:23 AM
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Originally posted by starwarsisreal
Although I come from an immigrant family that came here legally find it very disturbing because it seems like now illegals are gonna come and have instant citizenship
edit on 6-5-2011 by starwarsisreal because: (no reason given)


I think the biggest issue is the Fact that it is even happening, that some in power feel they have the right to keep basic information out of the hands of people, for their own gain.

On the surface this scrubbing doesn't seem like that big of a deal. But, when you REALLY think about it. It's HUGE!



posted on May, 6 2011 @ 12:27 AM
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Originally posted by ~Lucidity
The first question to ask is were these there before this claim was made.

Here's one occurrence I found: dictionary.reference.com...

Also? Phrases such as natural-born citizen are generally not in dictionaries, which are for words. In this case, the compound adjective phrase natural-born is probably not considered a word by most dictionaries.Some of these types of phrases do make it in and most don't. That's my guess. Hope that helps.


Same instance with just Natural Born

These definitions were there. They just are no longer.

I would like to post a link to the original thread, but not sure if its a rival site or anything like that. I am not trying to take credit for someone else's work, just really want to point the issue out to those here at ATS



posted on May, 6 2011 @ 12:28 AM
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edit on 6-5-2011 by siren8 because: im a chicken



posted on May, 6 2011 @ 12:29 AM
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reply to post by Stormgodess
 


sigh - dictionaries give definitions for SINGLE words , not phrases -

eg - " free range eggs , " organic milk " etc etc etc


PS - have you looked in an american law text ?



posted on May, 6 2011 @ 12:35 AM
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So sorry, please don't think that I am being ugly, it truly is not meant that way.

I know what the definition is. Its the issue that the definitions for those "Phrases" were defined on numerous mainstream online dictionaries a week ago, and they are no longer there now.
edit on 6-5-2011 by Stormgodess because: no instead of know???? Crazy brain fart!



posted on May, 6 2011 @ 12:35 AM
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I honestly don't think they were there. Is there any proof that they were ever there?

No dictionary that I know of would show a two word adjective phrase.



posted on May, 6 2011 @ 12:36 AM
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All your questions will be answered here...
lmgtfy.com...



posted on May, 6 2011 @ 12:39 AM
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That's not really the subject of this thread. The issue is that someone believes the phrases natural born and natural born citizen used to be in the online dictionaries and are now no longer are because someone removed them for some reason.



posted on May, 6 2011 @ 12:40 AM
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Thank you, that is a pretty awesome service. Will have to remember that in the future.

But that is not the issue. I guess not being able to link the original post is making this hard to follow. I questioned myself about posting it, and still being able to get the info needed across to make the point. But alas, I have failed miserably! LOL

How do you delete your own post?



posted on May, 6 2011 @ 12:40 AM
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check this one out

www.wnd.com...

proof positive that someones out to cloud the meaning hmm wonder why that would be...

I know lets ask Obama's Kenyan dad.



posted on May, 6 2011 @ 12:43 AM
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What was wrong with "indigenous people?"

Natural really tells us nothing. Is there another kind of born citizen? We are all born. The most definitive part of the expression is citizen. Why would a three word phrase be in a dictionary anyway? I never came across it. I won't miss it either.



posted on May, 6 2011 @ 12:48 AM
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Originally posted by ~Lucidity
reply to post by Stormgodess
 

I honestly don't think they were there. Is there any proof that they were ever there?

No dictionary that I know of would show a two word adjective phrase.



You are right, there isn't anyway to prove it besides screenshots... But there is this... From the last source left LOL Wikipedia...
en.wikipedia.org...

Dictionaries The Oxford English Dictionary and Webster's International Dictionary (3rd edition) define it as a person who becomes a citizen at birth (as opposed to becoming one later). Blacks Law Dictionary (9th Edition) defines 'Natural Born Citizen' as "A person born within the jurisdiction of a national government".


So according to that, the Three word phrase was in both the Oxford and Webster's
edit on 6-5-2011 by Stormgodess because: forgot link



posted on May, 6 2011 @ 12:50 AM
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I honestly think "natural born" is a legal term/definition? Maybe a look in a law dictionary (if there is one?) Would be a good place to look.
Also, no offense meant with my previous post o.p.
glad you saw the humor. Its late, guess I should head to bed, lol



posted on May, 6 2011 @ 12:58 AM
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Hi.

I found a page of links in bing...I. typed "define; natural-born citizen."

This turned something up!

SOURCE



posted on May, 6 2011 @ 01:00 AM
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Originally posted by newcovenant
reply to post by Stormgodess
 


What was wrong with "indigenous people?"

Natural really tells us nothing. Is there another kind of born citizen? We are all born. The most definitive part of the expression is citizen. Why would a three word phrase be in a dictionary anyway? I never came across it. I won't miss it either.


Yes, it's called Native Born. itooktheredpill.wordpress.com...



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