Originally posted by herbgrinder88

Also it said under Ahmadinejad's picture.
"Tehran blames rising tensions on a 'Western and Zionist conspiracy."

Anyone else thinks hes telling the truth?

I do. I wrote a whole thread for the case that what is happening now is about laying the groundwork to go after Iran. I think we have been laying the groundwork for that for quite a while, and the Osama capture/killing was intended to "unite us as one people like 9-11" as the President and many others chanted right after the story broke. I think they were hoping we would have an emotional upsurge of patriotism, and be more ready to swallow another big, expensive military action against a big player like Iran.

Originally posted by Xcathdra

Why invade when the country is essentially imploding?

Because for the US its not just about bringing it down, its about making sure the right people end up in charge. Iran could end up a worse threat to the US than it currently is very easily. But you could be right.

Originally posted by hmdphantom
American Gov is and was

the major supporter of Taliban ( war against soviet union )

We supported the Muhajadeen, which included many groups and people, and not just the Taliban or Osam Bin Laden. Also, I dont think either named groups were in existance during that time. I thought they cropped up after the Soviets left Afghanistan, when the civil wars broke out among the various Afghan factions.

Originally posted by hmdphantom
the major supporter of velvet movements in Kazakhstan , Georgia , Iran , Ukraine.

Not sure about 3 of those, since they came into exzistance once again when the Soviet Union fell.

Originally posted by hmdphantom
the major supporter of Saddam in the Imposed war on Iran

To prevent the Iranians from winning. Just as the Soviets assisted Egypt and Syria in their war against Israel.

Originally posted by hmdphantom
America has already invaded Afghanistan , Iraq , Vietnam .

Afghanistan because of 9/11, Iraq because of its invasion of Kuwait the first time, and its WMD program the second time (which wikileaks has confirmed a wmp program in iraq prior to the 2003 invasion).

Originally posted by hmdphantom
America is helping the multinational Incorporation to sell out the resources of the invaded countries.

All countries sell resources. Some of those contracts have gone to businesses from foreign governments, in addition to Russia and China, especially China, doing the same thing.

Originally posted by hmdphantom
America dropped nuclear bombs on Hiroshima and Nagasaki.

Then maybe Japan should not have attacked the US if they were not prepared to finish the job? Also, Japan and Germany both had nuclear weapons development programs. Do you think if they mastered it first that they would NOT have used it against the US / UK / Allies? Hell the Nazis were developing a bomber that could reach the US mainland.

Originally posted by hmdphantom
America was beyond this Social Networks to control the movements In Iran.

Evidence and a source please. The only source to date to make that accustion is PressTV, the Iranian government mouthpiece. Also, if I remeber right, they blamed the UK, NOt the US.

Originally posted by hmdphantom
America is beyond the movement to fool her people by the media ( as you see in Mullhuland Dr movie by Lynch)

ok

Originally posted by hmdphantom
as we can see America has a finger on every pie in the world.

Sure we do, just like every other country on the planet. Almost all countries by oil and trade goods with each other. Would it not be prudent to know whats going on in a country that could adversely affect yours?

Originally posted by hmdphantom
I am not America hater because I have lots of American friends. I hate the way they are policing the world based on Injustice.

To each their own I guess.. I peraonlly would like to see the US close down ALL overseas bases and bring all the troops home. I would also like to see the US not participate with UN operations. If we spread that much injustice, then the world can fend for themselves.

We have to take a number of previous speeches from Ahmedinajad with a pinch of salt - he does the ruse (that every politician uses) of casting the outsider as the real enemy so as to cover up his own inadequacies. This is almost standard stuff for a politician from any country.

Putting aside the rights and wrongs, it doe sound very suspicious for any major leader to just "disappear" for a few weeks. And now this. My conspiracy senses are tingling, the timing when the West are looking the Royal Wedding and then the Osama killing.

I love how this thread went from trying to figure out why the Ayatola would ask Ahmadinejad to step down, and trying to figure out where hes been........


Within like 5 posts, proto comes in with his buddies and its turned into a bash America and Israel thread..........really people?

Do you have to turn every thread that has to do with the middle east into this topic?

Why cant you stick to what we are talking about? Get over yourselves.........seriously its starting to get really really old, and it kills threads...........

This OP is actually very interesting if its true........regardless what you think of Ahmadinejad or Israel or America, it would be interesting to find out where he went, why , and if any of it is true..........

If it is........thats what we need to be talking about here......THATS more interesting than the other crap you guys are flinging