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still from one mans translation, and the key to this is... this
1 Thessalonians 4:13-18 says "But I would not have you to be ignorant, brothers, concerning those who are asleep, that you do not sorrow, even as others which have no hope. For if we believe that Jesus died and rose again, even so those also who sleep in Jesus will God bring with Him. For this we say unto you by the word of the Lord, that we who are alive and remain unto the coming of the Lord shall not precede those who are asleep. For the Lord Himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first. Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so we shall ever be with the Lord. Therefore, comfort one another with these words."
The portion highlighted above in this color in the Latin Vulgate reads: "deinde nos qui vivimus qui relinquimur simul rapiemur cum illis in nubibus obviam Domino in aera et sic semper cum Domino erimus". The Latin word for "shall be caught up" is "rapiemur". The Latin dictionary says that root for the Latin word "rapiemur" is "rapio" which it says means "to seize , snatch, tear away; to hurry along a person or thing". In Latin endings are tacked on for case, number, gender, tense, etc. One ending is "raptus" for example. Many words are "transliterated" directly into English with English endings added. For example the Greek "baptism" transliterates letter for letter to "baptism" in English. There you have it. "Rapture" is a scriptural word...just in a different language (translation)!
Even though it is a scriptural word, because of the association of the word "rapture" with levitation in Hinduistic, Persian, and occultic literature and also in spiritualist circles in the United States and Britain in the 19th and 20th centuries, some Christians do not want to use this term to describe the wonderful event described in these verses. Since the strength of the event is so well described by this choice of the Greek word by the Holy Spirit, it is obvious that some human beings (i.e. Christians saved at this time - both physically living and dead) will get new resurrection bodies and be caught up into the clouds to be with Jesus forever. This event is what the Holy Spirit, Paul and many Christians refer to as the "catching away, seizing or snatching away" of Christians and some other Christians refer to as the Rapture. It may be time for Christians to claim back this word for this blessed event.
for you and i that see things in a different light will have the time to be saved, just in case we, the ones that do not believe in the rapture, but believe in the gathering, can and will be saved, amen.
For the Lord Himself shall descend from heaven with a shout, with the voice of the archangel, and with the trump of God: and the dead in Christ shall rise first. Then we who are alive and remain shall be caught up together with them in the clouds, to meet the Lord in the air: and so we shall ever be with the Lord.
Originally posted by Mercurio
Originally posted by Ghost375
I'd think the FEMA camps were full.
But seriously if it happens, you realize only 144,000 disappear, right?
Do you think anyone would notice that few people out of 7 billion?
Maybe 10 of them would be from America, and the news would never mention anything about it.
Actually I looked into the 144,000 reference, and it apparently refers to people who will be protected from the catastrophes and disasters that occur during the Apocalypse. Not the Rapture.
"Do not harm the earth or the sea or the trees, until after we have sealed the servants of God on their foreheads".
This means the Apocalyptic destruction would not begin until the 144,000 "servants of God" have been sealed to protect their life. This means that the 144,000 are NOT raptured, but live on Earth through the whole period of the "tribulation".
I'm an atheist, though. But that's what I think the 144,000 means.
26 “Just as it was in the days of Noah, so also will it be in the days of the Son of Man. 27 People were eating, drinking, marrying and being given in marriage up to the day Noah entered the ark. Then the flood came and destroyed them all.
28 “It was the same in the days of Lot. People were eating and drinking, buying and selling, planting and building. 29 But the day Lot left Sodom, fire and sulfur rained down from heaven and destroyed them all.
30 “It will be just like this on the day the Son of Man is revealed. 31 On that day no one who is on the housetop, with possessions inside, should go down to get them. Likewise, no one in the field should go back for anything. 32 Remember Lot’s wife! 33 Whoever tries to keep their life will lose it, and whoever loses their life will preserve it. 34 I tell you, on that night two people will be in one bed; one will be taken and the other left. 35 Two women will be grinding grain together; one will be taken and the other left.”  [a]
37 “Where, Lord?” they asked. He replied, “Where there is a dead body, there the vultures will gather.”
Originally posted by Ghost375
Oops, I remembered that wrong. You're correct.
Christians spreading the rapture idea should really read revelations. Especially the end. It's a very bad, unforgivable sin to add or take away from the revelations.
The Revelation of Jesus Christ, which God gave unto him, to shew unto his servants things which must shortly come to pass; and he sent and signified [it] by his angel unto his servant John:
Originally posted by DOADOA
there would finally be peace on earth. i'll attend college and get a degree. adopt 5 dogs from a shelter, throw a bbq at the beach and buy a hybrid car.
Originally posted by Signals
reply to post by Biigs
I'm kinda torn, I don't think the rapture, if it is real, is some magical thing where everybody disappears...
It could be a massive loss of life, occuring at the same time (EQ, nukes, etc...)
Some people have offered Bible verses, but I don't believe the event is covered anywhere in the Bible.