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Originally posted by alphabetaone
Originally posted by Dastardly666
Aaahhh okay. So you say there is no alien visitation and would fight tooth and nail against actual visitation!
For someone who pretends to know everything, can you so kindly provide us with evidence that there is no alien visitation? Its a strong statement to make so you must know something.
Quite frankly I just don't think you either have a decent enough grasp on the language here to understand the difference between skepticism and outright denial; to discern the difference between someone who is open to a possibility as opposed to a staunch "believer and all others be damned"; to temper yourself and your desire to always have the last word and be right.
Otherwise, you should understand the the onus of providing evidence of anything at all, is on the person making the claim, not someone participating in the conversation. I'm open to the fact that it CAN have happened, but I am SKEPTICAL that it ever did, and unless some conclusive proof can be obtained that would change that, MY mind won't be convinced, nor will the majority either as, since the majority DONT believe it, and the majority HAVE NOT seen any conclusive evidence, and the majority CAN think critically and put together logic in a cohesive fashion. But I am making no claim of anything, so I do not need to provide evidence of anything.
Originally posted by Dastardly666
I asked you a simple question to prove there has not been alien visitation, which is what you claimed.
And, when you said 'I'm open to the fact it CAN have happened', its actually COULD!
Originally posted by alphabetaone
Originally posted by Dastardly666
I asked you a simple question to prove there has not been alien visitation, which is what you claimed.
And, when you said 'I'm open to the fact it CAN have happened', its actually COULD!
Please quote the post where I made a claim of anything at all. Most specifically, the post where I made the claim that alien visitation has never occurred. I want to see it.
Once you have seen the truth , everything else falls into place
Originally posted by Dastardly666
You said
'Where my skepticism lies is in visitation. I would fight tooth and nail against actual visitation. There would be little to NO need for all this cloak and dagger nonsense at this point. According to prevailing wisdom, we can recount at least 70 years of this alleged visitation, after 70 years, I'm quite sure if it WERE true, they have us all figured out by now and precisely what they could and could not get away with. So the whole "they're waiting for the right time to make themselves visible to us" nonsense is just that....nonsense.'
So what did you mean?
Originally posted by alphabetaone
Originally posted by Dastardly666
You said
'Where my skepticism lies is in visitation. I would fight tooth and nail against actual visitation. There would be little to NO need for all this cloak and dagger nonsense at this point. According to prevailing wisdom, we can recount at least 70 years of this alleged visitation, after 70 years, I'm quite sure if it WERE true, they have us all figured out by now and precisely what they could and could not get away with. So the whole "they're waiting for the right time to make themselves visible to us" nonsense is just that....nonsense.'
So what did you mean?
Ok, which part of the meaning then, of "Where my skepticism" is confusing you?
I'm making no claim, I'm voicing my skepticism of it. Which is precisely why I suggested that perhaps you just don't have a decent enough grasp of the meaning and difference between the 2.
Originally posted by Dastardly666
Like wingedbull, you have been caught out, proved wrong and you are now backtracking and trying to twist things to suit you.
You said there is no visitation and I asked you to prove this.
And when you accuse someone of having a deficiency of the English language, make sure you have a grasp of it yourself!
edit on 9-5-2011 by Dastardly666 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by alphabetaone
Originally posted by Dastardly666
Like wingedbull, you have been caught out, proved wrong and you are now backtracking and trying to twist things to suit you.
You said there is no visitation and I asked you to prove this.
And when you accuse someone of having a deficiency of the English language, make sure you have a grasp of it yourself!
edit on 9-5-2011 by Dastardly666 because: (no reason given)
Ok, and I'll ask you again to quote where I said precisely that, that there no visitation as opposed to me simply being skeptical, and I will agree with you. However, I am still skeptical that it ever happened. This has been my stance from the beginning, and I would challenge you to find where I stated otherwise.
Originally posted by deepennytration
Believe in what you want to believe in OP, just try and refrain from forcefully ramming your beliefs down the throats of others...
Originally posted by Dastardly666
The whole paragraph suggests you do not believe in alien visitation and, you would fight tooth and nail against actual visitation meaning there has been no visitation. And you said to say they are waiting for the right time to make themselves visible is NONSENSE. Can you please back this up?edit on 9-5-2011 by Dastardly666 because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Dastardly666
Originally posted by BLKMJK
Originally posted by WingedBull
Originally posted by Kali74
You don't need info in a post like this, it's a discussion forum not a post only accounts and facts forums. Trolls are hungry is all. Welcome to this side of the fence
Only the simple and closed-minded think that disagreement, asking for evidence and facts is "trolling". Only the simple and closed-minded think that discussion equates to everyone agreeing.
Great post and sadly I see this daily on ATS.
Why is asking for evidence so wrong on this forum? And if we do not believe some of the outlandish claims without evidence than is US "skeptics" that are bashed and called blind, trolls, sheep, disinfo agents etc.
There is nothing wrong with asking for evidence but if someone declines to share it, they should not be labelled a liar, as is the case on this forum. I have asked some here for their opinions on aliens and UFOs, but they refuse to answer.
Originally posted by WingedBull
reply to post by tpg65
I can tell by your language, appeal-to-spite bogeymen, phantom evidence, so forth, that you were never a skeptic or a fence-sitter.
Originally posted by thestillborn1
There will be no disclosure from your government. Why? Because if the government were to speak out about it, the people will rise up in anger and kill one another.
Originally posted by thestillborn1
reply to post by WingedBull
Panic...........
Insert second line here..........
Originally posted by BLKMJK
Originally posted by Dastardly666
Originally posted by BLKMJK
Originally posted by WingedBull
Originally posted by Kali74
You don't need info in a post like this, it's a discussion forum not a post only accounts and facts forums. Trolls are hungry is all. Welcome to this side of the fence
Only the simple and closed-minded think that disagreement, asking for evidence and facts is "trolling". Only the simple and closed-minded think that discussion equates to everyone agreeing.
Great post and sadly I see this daily on ATS.
Why is asking for evidence so wrong on this forum? And if we do not believe some of the outlandish claims without evidence than is US "skeptics" that are bashed and called blind, trolls, sheep, disinfo agents etc.
There is nothing wrong with asking for evidence but if someone declines to share it, they should not be labelled a liar, as is the case on this forum. I have asked some here for their opinions on aliens and UFOs, but they refuse to answer.
I am sorry but starting a thread to claim you have seen evidence that changed his world view from one of scepticism to belief and not sharing the evidence us for public assessment is just absurd.
Originally posted by BLKMJK
Originally posted by Dastardly666
Originally posted by BLKMJK
Originally posted by WingedBull
Originally posted by Kali74
You don't need info in a post like this, it's a discussion forum not a post only accounts and facts forums. Trolls are hungry is all. Welcome to this side of the fence
Only the simple and closed-minded think that disagreement, asking for evidence and facts is "trolling". Only the simple and closed-minded think that discussion equates to everyone agreeing.
Great post and sadly I see this daily on ATS.
Why is asking for evidence so wrong on this forum? And if we do not believe some of the outlandish claims without evidence than is US "skeptics" that are bashed and called blind, trolls, sheep, disinfo agents etc.
There is nothing wrong with asking for evidence but if someone declines to share it, they should not be labelled a liar, as is the case on this forum. I have asked some here for their opinions on aliens and UFOs, but they refuse to answer.
I am sorry but starting a thread to claim you have seen evidence that changed his world view from one of scepticism to belief and not sharing the evidence us for public assessment is just absurd.
Originally posted by alphabetaone
Originally posted by Dastardly666
The whole paragraph suggests you do not believe in alien visitation and, you would fight tooth and nail against actual visitation meaning there has been no visitation. And you said to say they are waiting for the right time to make themselves visible is NONSENSE. Can you please back this up?edit on 9-5-2011 by Dastardly666 because: (no reason given)
Back WHAT up?? You want me to back up my own personal beliefs? How, precisely does one "back up" what it is they believe or don't believe? As, I'm not making a claim there is nothing I need to "back up".
What you believe I am suggesting doesn't reflect reality, and your constant badgering only solidifies that. So, those who can disseminate paragraphs and statements effectively will know precisely what was meant by it, Regretfully, you are not one of them, but it isn't my loss.