Originally posted by USAF8307
Originally posted by IrnBruFiend
reply to post by Arken
This is great. This guy is credible. I just hope he doesn't have some mysterious 'accident'. This has happened to far too many of the 1st hand witnesses.
May I ask why you think he is credible? If I told you that I was Undersecrety of Defense for Intelligence under Clinton but you could not find it written anywhere other than my own words, would you still believe me?
Thank you for the references. According to the ISPP.org site, this organization was founded by Jeanne N. Knutson and, you're right, I couldn't find the list of members. He may have had that title, which I would like to have personally, but that certainly doesn't make him a "Top Government Insider" or a current "US Official." I can also promise that level doesn't get involved with classified CIA information.
I also looked at your state.gov reference, did a search on his name and found nothing. US Institute of Peace is a private organization and, though established by Congress, would not be an organization where an individual would be in a position to have access to national security information.
To summarize your thoughts on Dr. Pieczenik, he may be well known (I disagree), but that doesn't mean he's "in the know."
That's what he (Pieczenik) says in a book that got little to no attention, but that doesn't mean there is any truth to it. I would also like to add that according to the reference you provided on the Italian assassination, he was a former crisis negotiator at the US State Department, yet one of the other references you provided, you stated he was the Asst. Deputy of State for Management. Which department do you think he actually worked for or do you have evidence to suggest he worked for both?
Originally posted by subversivemike
No offense man, but as new ATSer, saying that "you promise" he wouldn't have access to CIA info is weak and has no factual backing. So such a promise, regardless of whether it was just a turn of phrase or not, doesn't really hold any water.
Originally posted by lunatux
If the thing was faked the news would be coming out in scuttlebutt from that close and closed community of spec ops vets. That is not happening.
Originally posted by subversivemike
, without anything to back it up, people are going to question the validity of such statments.
Especially on a conspiracy website!
Originally posted by bluemirage5
This came out today in a UK paper.......
sounds like one the photos described is one floating around the internet many of us have already seen and it's photoshoped.
more and more I read about this "operation" the more I'm convienced they definately took out the wrong guy!
"I have no idea," why Obama would do this, Pieczenik said of what he called a psychological operation (psy-op)-- the story of bin Laden being killed by US forces in Pakistan. Osama bin Laden was known to suffer from Marfan syndrome (a genetic disorder that dramatically shortens lifespan), as well as receiving kidney dialysis treatments. The storyline that bin Laden was alive in 2001 and attacked our country is a falsity, born out of the need for the US to create a boogeyman, and justify wars, he continued.
Originally posted by BLV12
They knew what was going to happen on 9/11 prior to it happening. They let it happen however, so they can advance their agenda in the Middle East. This is obvious because the first place they hit was the Middle East. And it's virtually the only place the US military has been deployed in massive numbers since 9/11.
Bin Laden was killed when they say he was killed, but they knew were he was for years in advance. He was killed at an opportune time for the US government. Bin Laden no longer served them any purpose. .