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Originally posted by DrunkNinja
Originally posted by AQuestion
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Originally posted by DrunkNinja
reply to post by AQuestion
It is about the future, deciding for others. If a law is passed today that says nobody under 12 can be searched, we tried that and drug sellers began using people under 12. (((((DRUG DOGS)))) We had women fake pregnancy to hide bombs during the Vietnam war (watch Apocalypse Now) ((((((((BOMB SNIFFING DOGS))))))))), we do intentionally induce paralysis to save lives (doctors induce comas to save people, read about it).(((((((((((((MEDICAL CONSENT FORMS))))))))What changes in the future are the questions we cannot know today. If you do not know all the answers why do you believe others do? They don't, it is a process, not perfection and well all have our opinions, even people that are not on this earth yet, we cannot say what their freedom will require them to say. Your question presumes controlling the future rather than letting them decide for themselves.
Also by your reasoning that we should ensure that we do not control people in the future by not passing laws today, would mean that we should have no laws. I mean when they passed a law that says that murder is a punishable offense that was wrong because you never know murder might be useful in the future, just about as useful as cavity searches for 12 year old's, do you think about what your writing or do you just type ?
I seem to believe you said you were Canadian, yet, you wish to tell us how to regulate our government. You put words in my mouth and do not consider what I have said. I never said we should have no laws, I say we should have the right to change them. I do think, unfortunately, you do not listen except for agreement in response.
Originally posted by DrunkNinja
....The civil rights and labor lobbies are losing ground every hour and need a boost. Get people to sway towards true justice and they may start to care about what true justice means and help out in the trenches your embattled in now, Know what I mean ?
....I do not think that the Internet is being used to start WWIII.
I do however see it as one of many battlefields where it was being fought.
Now, this is where and why I do not agree with certain celebrity "conspiracy theorists".
Say for instance, Alex Jones, or even David Icke, Julian Assange, and John Titor comes to mind.
Why do I say that and about those individuals in particular?
They try monopolizing upon the ignorance of mankind.
There has been and always has been an Information War ongoing for thousands of years.
Between every nation in the world.
This trumps any claim to WWIII.....
But the daddy long legs of wars would be the Information War which has been going on for thousands of years.
This is or could be termed a Propaganda War between nations, religions, and educational institutions.
The World-Wide Web of Surveillance of Your Online/Offline Activities
Going To Your Public Library, Gathering Open Source Intelligence, and Surviving
Between all of the various different countries, religions, and educational institutions throughout the world, a fight has been ongoing, for that of the minds of a populace so large, indoctrination as well as recruiting into each fold of societal difference throughout the fabric of mankind, with every intention of controlling those same said people through many avenues of control mechanisms.....
But with each country, each religions, and the various educational institutions within each, there is an infinite amount of warfare going on through an information campaign, again which has been going for thousands of years.
And the battlefield is not only including the Internet now in this day of electronic information.
But that same battlefield is not only being fought for your minds but within them as well....
....This example of a $100,000 home, as shocking as it is, producing $172,741 unearned interest, this is just a grain of sand in the Sahara.
You have to multiply that by all the homes in America, by all of these hotels in America, all the high-rise buildings, all the factories, all the airplanes, automobiles, farm equipment, schools, everything, all the physical assets of America. You apply this same ratio and can you see it in your mind? We're talking about a river of unearned wealth that is so wide you can't even think of crossing it, flowing perpetually into the banking cartel. A dead short across the productive element of society. Money being taken from people who are working hard providing the material and the labor. They don't even know that this is being taken from them and it's in this huge river of wealth flowing into the banking cartel. It's a staggering thought.
You are led to the question of where is this river flowing? Where's it going?
....When a person has all the wealth that you could possibly want for the material pleasures of life, what is left? Power. They are using this river of wealth to acquire power over you and me and our children.
They are spending it to acquire control over the power centers of society. The power centers are those groups and institutions through which individuals live and act and rely on for their information. They are literally buying up the world but not the real estate and the hardware, they're buying control over the organizations, the groups and institutions that control people. In other words, to be specific, they are buying control over politicians, political parties, television networks, cable networks, newspapers, magazines, publishing houses, wire services, motion picture studios, universities, labor unions, church organizations, trade associations, tax-exempt foundations, multi-national corporations, boy scouts, girl scouts, you name it. Make your own list of organizations and you will find that this is where those people have been for many decades spending this river of wealth to acquire operational control particularly over those institutions and individuals, those organizations that represent opposition to themselves. That's a critical area for expenditure on their part. www.bigeye.com...
....And then at the insistence of Paul Warburg who was forever the master strategist, they added several very sound provisions to the Federal Reserve Bill. By that I mean they added some provisions which seriously restricted the ability of the Federal Reserve to create money out of nothing. Warburg's associates said, "Paul, what are you doing? We don't want those in there this is our bill." And his response was this, he said, "Relax fellas, don't you get it? Our object is to get the bill passed. We can fix it up later." Those were his exact words. "We can fix it up later."
He was so right. It was because of those provisions that they won over the support of William Jennings Bryan the head of the Populist Movement, the last hold-out against the bill. Bryan was concerned that this would be an instrument for ruining the nation's money supply but when he saw those provisions he said, "Oh well, those are good provisions, I guess I can support the bill now" never dreaming that this was temporary. Everything is temporary in politics. When people go to sleep things can get changed.
Warburg was right and they fixed it up later. The Federal Reserve Act since it was passed has been amended over 100 times. Every one of those provisions were long ago removed and many more have been added which greatly expand the power and reach of the Federal Reserve System to create money out of nothing. With this kind of professional strategy and deception these people were real professionals and the public didn't stand a chance.....
A Hasbara manual for students to use on US univesity campuses is now available online. A summary of the techniques is provided from page 31 onwards:
Propaganda is used by those who want to communicate in ways that engage the emotions and downplay rationality, in an attempt to promote a certain message.
The manual goes on to describe seven propaganda techniques:
1. Name calling: through the careful use of words, then name calling technique links a person or an idea to a negative symbol.
2. Glittering generality: Simply put, glittering generality is name calling in reverse. Instead of trying to attach negative meanings to ideas or people, glittering generalities use positive phrases, which the audience are attached to, in order to lend positive image to things. Words such as "freedom", "civilization",…
3. Transfer: Transfer involves taking some of the prestige and authority of one concept and applying it to another. For example, a speaker might decide to speak in front of a United Nations flag, in an attempt to gain legitimacy for himself or his idea.
4. Testimonial: Testimonial means enlisting the support of somebody admired or famous to endorse and ideal or campaign.
5. Plain folks: The plain folks technique attempts to convince the listener that the speaker is a 'regular guy', who is trust-worthy because the are like 'you or me'.
6. Fear: Stressing that ignoring the message will likely lead to war, terrorism
7. Bandwagon: Suggest that the stated position is mainstream and use polls to suggest this.