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Did 'dead' courier betray Osama bin Laden? The White House story doesn't add up

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posted on May, 4 2011 @ 06:15 PM
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Did 'dead' courier betray Osama bin Laden? The White House story doesn't add up


blogs.telegr aph.co.uk

There’s a lot about the White House’s account that doesn’t quite add up. I’m not just talking about the changing story that led spokesman Jay Carney to admit: “Even I’m getting confused”. The erroneous details that Osama bin Laden was armed (he wasn’t), that his wife was used as a human shield (she wasn’t), that his wife was killed (she wasn’t) can be put down to over-egging the pudding or, if you’re feeling generous, the fog of war.

What I’m talking about is the bigger picture of how bin Laden was discovered and who was killed in that compound. Don’t worry, I’m
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posted on May, 4 2011 @ 06:15 PM
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Something does not add up. The quick response for people in front of the White House, and "ground zero". The chanting, reminicent of the Reich Stag; quick disposal of the body; NINE seperate occasions in the past where it was announced Bin Laden was dead; UBL's intial statement in 2001 that he and his people did NOT do the Trade Center deed, etc....

Something just does not feel right.

blogs.telegr aph.co.uk
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posted on May, 4 2011 @ 06:23 PM
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Originally posted by pityocamptes


Something does not add up. The quick response for people in front of the White House, and "ground zero". The chanting, reminicent of the Reich Stag; quick disposal of the body; NINE seperate occasions in the past where it was announced Bin Laden was dead; UBL's intial statement in 2001 that he and his people did NOT do the Trade Center deed, etc....

Something just does not feel right.

blogs.telegr aph.co.uk
(visit the link for the full news article)




Its been a very long time since i was in College .. but a half hour after hearing THE SAME speech those kids did,, but even back then,, it still would NOT make me run to the White-house,, and Jump around like they did..

i found it disturbing,,,, we did not kill a man,, we MURDERED many ,,,..!!

no joy,, no relief,,, no pleasure... what do these kids think we did? that deserves celebration?



posted on May, 4 2011 @ 06:31 PM
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This is what scares me, and keeps me up at night. The obvious open dupery to the younger generation under the guise of patriotism... very sad.



posted on May, 4 2011 @ 06:47 PM
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Nothing really adds up. John Brennan was the start, he must be feeling very embarrased with many of his embellished statements now 'known' to be inaccurate. Obama's repeating of the words, "captured and killed" US attorney saying more or less his killing would be legitimate no matter, (he must have picked up on Obama's words). Then there is Pakistan, why did they not do the job? couldn't be trusted to take out a few men and a couple of women and children all 'known' to be the sole occupants of the house, Oh no, it had to be a an invasion of a sovereign state by Pakistan's friends. Even then, the Seals with all their sophisticated technology had to shoot OBL's wife in the leg in case she scratched them. I know I'm being sardonic here, but it is the 'truth' as we have been given it, seemingly grudgeingly. All the while the elite forces of Pakistan are in the pub down the road. The burial at sea is something else.
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posted on May, 4 2011 @ 06:50 PM
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The other thing to think of is why did they NOT use a drone and take the entire compound out if they simply were given orders to pop everyone in the head?



posted on May, 4 2011 @ 06:56 PM
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Well I don't think it would of went over to good using a drone and killing 23 kids. And they didn't pop every body in the head. The women and children were safe, well most of the women. And don't forget the owner of the house Mohammad Nadeem was killed the week befor in Karachi in a professional hit. Tariq Khan one of the names used of the men in the house is the same as a guy who was held and released from Guntuenmo Bay back in 2003. Even that same house was raided by Pakistan back in 2003.

www.abovetopsecret.com...
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posted on May, 4 2011 @ 06:58 PM
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Wikileaks had one file from gitmo of a detainee who gave Osama's couriers name. That and other stuff then lead them to stake out the compound for a long time. That sounds plausible. I'm not sure about the entry itself. Didn't Osamas 12 year old daughter say that her father was captured right in the beginning and that there were only couriers and relatives there. Who they fought with then? What did the pakistanis do since they had base right next door. Very strange "assault".



posted on May, 4 2011 @ 06:58 PM
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this whole bin laden farce...is a really a bad miscalculation,by someone,to bolster obama's election campaign..

there now doing damage control....so they are blinding you all with conflicting information...
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posted on May, 4 2011 @ 07:01 PM
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Originally posted by pityocamptes
The other thing to think of is why did they NOT use a drone and take the entire compound out if they simply were given orders to pop everyone in the head?


That was considered according to one report, and was discounted, Im not sure if a reason was given but if not, I presume that they presumed we would have to conclude a humane reason like collateral damage.Then there is the little problem of cash, you need the stuff don't you? no mention of hordes of money yet, (watch this space)

Just to add, for once the MSM are not to happy with the info as it is sounding so contradictory, including the news of 10 mobiles being recovered from 'the mansion'
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posted on May, 4 2011 @ 07:12 PM
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Perhaps they had no idea if he was in there or not. Wikileaks revealing to the world that his courier is compromised might have forced them to move in. Rather than to just bomb the place and never be sure who died they opted to go in and verify the kill? That would make sense.



posted on May, 4 2011 @ 07:46 PM
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Just more antics by the fedgov to rile up the gung ho murder supporting types who back whatever action was performed to get Bin Laden, even reports from his wife and his 6 year old daughter now state he was captured alive then shot. The administration will use this to stir the patriotic pot and get the result they want no matter the cost. Sad thing is, most Americans think of theirselves as forgiving, sympathetic and caring. But only until the administration can rattle the war horn and get the simple minds behind their murderous campaign.

Their intel according ot them happened 7 months ago yet Bin laden stayed put for that entire time. For the world's most wanted terrorist that makes no sense whatsoever. According to reports NO ONE ever saw him coming or going. I think he was given up for that $50,000,000 reward by one or both of those couriers then they were killed to avoid paying it by the US gov. After all, no weapons were in those photos on reuters except the toy gun that is. This entire thing stinks to high heaven and back again.
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posted on May, 4 2011 @ 08:32 PM
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It doesn't add up because he was already dead. Like 10 years ago. From health complications.


Whether or not the US ever actually got his body, they just saved telling us about it until there was a good opportunity for the public to get a little "boost" to maybe make it look more favorably upon this entire mess in the Middle East.


Then they had to make up the story from scratch, and apparently got very sloppy with it, which is why it doesn't make sense.



posted on May, 4 2011 @ 09:08 PM
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From Fox News:

The two men in the photographs are now being reported as "unidentified" and that tail section is from a Commanche stealth helo.

This tale keeps getting better by the hour!!!

Photos Reportedly Show Stealth Helicopter Design, Unidentified Men Dead at Bin Laden's Hideout

Read more: www.foxnews.com...
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posted on May, 4 2011 @ 09:12 PM
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There seems to be discrepency over the type of helicopter.

Some are saying it was a attack helicopter, like an Apache, others are saying a utility type, like a Blackhawk.

It should be noted that some of the neighbors who saw it go down in a "hard landing", said it was a gunship and some even thought it was an Apache.



posted on May, 4 2011 @ 09:16 PM
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Look up "commanche" on Google images then check out that tail section! Thats what it is although the protective cowling has broken off the one at OBL's house.



posted on May, 4 2011 @ 09:21 PM
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source: strangemilitary.com and foxnews.com



posted on May, 4 2011 @ 09:23 PM
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If its a Commanche tail rotor it must have been modified.

The airfoils are located in a different place and the rotor itself doesn't have the odd angle to it.

That still doesn't mean it wasn't some kind of gunship that came from the Commanche program.



posted on May, 4 2011 @ 09:25 PM
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True for sure.
I'm looking at the two wings on it, Blackhawk fins are much bigger and wider than that.
But I think you hit it right...its from the Commanche family/program.
But thats not from any Blackhawk, top rotor head or tail section, I'm sure of that.
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posted on May, 4 2011 @ 09:39 PM
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Originally posted by pityocamptes


Something does not add up. The quick response for people in front of the White House, and "ground zero". The chanting, reminicent of the Reich Stag; quick disposal of the body; NINE seperate occasions in the past where it was announced Bin Laden was dead; UBL's intial statement in 2001 that he and his people did NOT do the Trade Center deed, etc....

Something just does not feel right.

blogs.telegr aph.co.uk
(visit the link for the full news article)


OK...I just saw an ad for an Obama interview on CBS "60 Minutes" this weekend The interview is advertised as the ONLY interview with BHO concerning the OBL operation.

With all the discrepancies and questions that the American people have concerning this event, I am appallled that Mr. Obama would not hold an unscripted news conference and be subjected to questioning from a broad spectrum of journalists.

What has this country come to when we the people do not demand accountability from our public servants. Mr. Obama is NOT the celebrity-in-chief who should be permitted to get away with giving safe, controlled, scripted interviews.




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