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Federal Lawsuit over Geronimo, Skull and Bones, Masonic Masons, Illuminati, NWO, and secret codes

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posted on May, 4 2011 @ 01:14 PM
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As I was watching this OBL news unfold over the past days .. I heard the Navy Seals code word Geranimo .. it hit a sore spot .. not becoause I'm Native but becuause it is tyed into a very disturbing truth. Geranimo was a well known chief and he was a very highly sought after native in the late 1800's he hidout in the dessert mouantins out west .. he managed to hide out for a very long time.. so is this starting to resemble the OBL situaltion .. ok to me or in my opinion,,
Whether this is the reason for using Geranimos name as a code I really dont know. But here is the part to wnhich it makes my stomache turn sour. Geranimos bones were suppose to have been kept by our USA Government and his Head or Skull is said to be owned by President George W. Bush Sr. well heres a article that gives information on the skull and bones organization who by the way has a federal law suit pending


www.msnbc.msn.com...

but now it also names our current president Mr. Barack Obama himsellf .. Using Native names has always frowned upon lby the natives and my point is its sick to harbor someones bones or skull .. its the point of --Why why why ..




posted on May, 4 2011 @ 01:32 PM
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I am not Native, but I pick-up the same as you.
I have been to Arizona to Geronomo's last stand area on a vacation.
I wish the lawsuit success and the return of all remains and lands.
Off topic: Do you believe Lakota should strip Obama's Indian name "Black Eagle"?
The Indians voted 100% for him in 2008, what is the word now?

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posted on May, 4 2011 @ 03:35 PM
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I guess I could relate to you native americans if the Osama operation was called "Kill whitey". The comparisons are interesting, however, between Geronimo and Osama, and why they gave him that name? I can only speculate. Imperialism seems to be the apparent underlying theme.



posted on May, 4 2011 @ 03:43 PM
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Did you notice that the article was from 2009?

By the way that lawsuit was dismissed in 2010. I
made a thread about Operation Geronimo here
last night, and it includes details on what happened
with that lawsuit.

From one of the links on my thread:

In 2010 Judge Richard Roberts granted a Justice Department motion to dismiss the suit. Geronimo's relatives, he said, failed to establish that the government waived its right not to be sued. Roberts also dismissed the lawsuit against Skull and Bones and Yale, saying the plaintiffs cited a law that applies only to Native American cultural items excavated or discovered after 1990.



www.abovetopsecret.com...






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posted on May, 4 2011 @ 04:46 PM
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So what? The code name came form a famous person in US history. No need for anyone to get upset. And Bush doesnt not own the head of the guy. Not everything is a conspiracy wrapped in another.



posted on May, 4 2011 @ 05:40 PM
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abcnews.go.com...



The first indication for President Obama that Osama bin Laden had been killed came when a Navy SEAL sent back the coded message to Washington that said simply, "Geronimo-E KIA."




The first encouraging word came at the beginning of the raid when the SEALS recognized the man who had eluded a U.S. manhunt for a decade. They sent back the message, "Geronimo."





After a 40-minute search of the compound, punctuated by firefights, bin Laden was dead, and the cryptic "Geronimo-E KIA" code sent relief through the White House. E stood for enemy and KIA for killed in action.



posted on May, 4 2011 @ 06:11 PM
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I'm not native. There aren't many natives left. One of the biggest crimes against humanity was taking America from the natives. They lived here for generations, off the land like people should, without drilling and mining and polluting the earth. They road horses. They didn't need cars, boats, or trains because they were already where they were supposed to be. They didn't need plastic trinkets or material possessions because they understood that happiness came from spiritual progress and not what we have today. How ironic that we live like slaves in a land that was once free and most people will never acknowledge it.

I just hope they were happy. No, I know they were happy. Most people now have to settle for content so a very few can achieve the illusion of happiness. The government encourages the natives to build casinos to project the misconception that they were justly compensated for their land when fat, old, white people blow $100 at a slot machine. They go home thinking they're happy, the natives are happy, everyone is happy. What can you do but laugh?



posted on May, 4 2011 @ 06:16 PM
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Originally posted by NE1911
I'm not native. There aren't many natives left. One of the biggest crimes against humanity was taking America from the natives. They lived here for generations, off the land like people should, without drilling and mining and polluting the earth. They road horses. They didn't need cars, boats, or trains because they were already where they were supposed to be. They didn't need plastic trinkets or material possessions because they understood that happiness came from spiritual progress and not what we have today. How ironic that we live like slaves in a land that was once free and most people will never acknowledge it.

I just hope they were happy. No, I know they were happy. Most people now have to settle for content so a very few can achieve the illusion of happiness. The government encourages the natives to build casinos to project the misconception that they were justly compensated for their land when fat, old, white people blow $100 at a slot machine. They go home thinking they're happy, the natives are happy, everyone is happy. What can you do but laugh?


Get a delorean with a flux capacitor attached to it then. Welcome to the 21st century. If you want to live like they did 900 years ago, then why are you on the internet ?



posted on May, 4 2011 @ 07:19 PM
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Also, the name of the procedure was "Operation Neptune Spear"

www.tripline.net...

Interesting given the sea burial controversy.



posted on May, 4 2011 @ 07:45 PM
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Progress for it's own sake is delusional at best. One must first ensure that the chosen path for "moving forward" is indeed taking you to a place you want to go to.



posted on May, 4 2011 @ 07:56 PM
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You cant always determine where your going. Change happens.



posted on May, 4 2011 @ 08:02 PM
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Agreed. However, at least attempting to determine the future effects of our actions is surely preferable to this game of "pin the tail on the donkey", where we blindly assume that because we are moving; it must be good.



posted on May, 4 2011 @ 08:19 PM
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Well change is good or bad, but we are changing for the better at the moment.We killed a terrorist and the economy is recovering. How is that not good ?



posted on May, 4 2011 @ 08:36 PM
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Unless you are privy to sources unknown to anyone else, both of those are nothing more than propaganda from the ministry of peace and the ministry of wealth, respectively. Just because one man speaks, does not a Truth make. Or, as is often said around here: Proof, or it didn't happen.

In my opinion, Bin Laden was nothing more than an asset that the CIA ran out of uses for. (Assuming, of course, that he really is dead....last I checked there is still no proof on that one.)

As for the economy, as of right now, the dollar is only two points off from its lowest ever record, and slowly loosing more purchasing power every week. The more currency they inject into the system the worse off we all will be.
You see, goods and services do not increase or decrease in value by decree. They do fluctuate based on supply and demand, otherwise their inherent value is always the same. In short, the value of goods has not increased - the value of the medium used to secure them has decreased.
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posted on May, 4 2011 @ 09:27 PM
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Originally posted by blood0fheroes
reply to post by gorgi
 


Unless you are privy to sources unknown to anyone else, both of those are nothing more than propaganda from the ministry of peace and the ministry of wealth, respectively. Just because one man speaks, does not a Truth make. Or, as is often said around here: Proof, or it didn't happen.


So you assume there is a conspiracy unless proven otherwise?



In my opinion, Bin Laden was nothing more than an asset that the CIA ran out of uses for. (Assuming, of course, that he really is dead....last I checked there is still no proof on that one.)


There is proof Bin laden is dead.



As for the economy, as of right now, the dollar is only two points off from its lowest ever record, and slowly loosing more purchasing power every week. The more currency they inject into the system the worse off we all will be.
You see, goods and services to not increase or decrease in value by decree. They do fluctuate based on supply and demand, otherwise their inherent value is always the same. In short, the value of goods has not increased - the value of the medium used to secure them has decreased.


Supply and demand do factor into the price of goods, but there is more to it than just that.



posted on May, 4 2011 @ 09:30 PM
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I heard that codename too and was like wtf? why would they call him that after what happened to the Native Indian Geronimo... kinda weird... does this line up with the Timewave Zero thing?? I know people call it bunk... but it's weird at the same time...



posted on May, 4 2011 @ 09:41 PM
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So you assume there is a conspiracy unless proven otherwise?


A conspiracy? No. A lack of a Truth, yes.




Supply and demand do factor into the price of goods, but there is more to it than just that.


Quite right, though there is no need for there to be. Government intervention never serves to do anything but inflame problems. This of course is beneficial to those in power, since they really do like making problems that they can in turn come up with "solutions" for.

Keynes' model, though quite effective in the short term, was never meant to be a long term solution; and has throughout history proven to be disastrous in the long term.

I like to put it this way: If you have a cut that gets infected, which is worse: Enduring the extreme pain of slicing it open, and cleaning it -OR- slapping ever bigger band-aids on it and convincing yourself that because you cant see it, it is no longer a problem?



posted on May, 4 2011 @ 09:59 PM
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Originally posted by blood0fheroes
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So you assume there is a conspiracy unless proven otherwise?


A conspiracy? No. A lack of a Truth, yes.




Supply and demand do factor into the price of goods, but there is more to it than just that.


Quite right, though there is no need for there to be. Government intervention never serves to do anything but inflame problems. This of course is beneficial to those in power, since they really do like making problems that they can in turn come up with "solutions" for.

Keynes' model, though quite effective in the short term, was never meant to be a long term solution; and has throughout history proven to be disastrous in the long term.

I like to put it this way: If you have a cut that gets infected, which is worse: Enduring the extreme pain of slicing it open, and cleaning it -OR- slapping ever bigger band-aids on it and convincing yourself that because you cant see it, it is no longer a problem?


The government fixes a lot of the problems and causes a lot less. The government is fixing the economy which was damaged by private groups. Keynesian economics is one of the best economics theories ever made. His models is what keeps the economies going. Voodoo economics and crazy people economics are failures and have proven to be so.
Keynes1
Keynes 2



posted on May, 5 2011 @ 10:54 AM
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posted on May, 5 2011 @ 11:04 AM
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