OBL Photos will NOT be released

Originally posted by kykweer
Secondly, how many of these photos, you gave, were officially released by the modern day US government?

edit on 5-5-2011 by kykweer because: (no reason given)

And furthermore, how many of these people depicted in the pictures were the leaders of arguably the most dangerous terrorist organization in the world? I guess questions like these will fall on deaf ears. People will connect the dots and continue to make disingenuous comparisons, because conspiracy theories spice up everyday life.

reply to post by lifeform11


Lol absurd. If I thought you murdered someone recently and spread propaganda all over ats... How will I prove me wrong? Would you feel inclined to prove me wrong because your scared of what other people would think about you? I got to be honest with you, if you did that I wouldn't be bothered at all.

reply to post by expo15


I know that, but were the photos officially released by the US government?

You see that makes all the difference.

It's not just people on ATS or the common label of "Conspiracy Nuts", Obama or Gov. haters, etc., that are looking for answers, proof or even to see the photos in question of proof:

It's not that these women are blood-lusting conspiracy theorists. If anything, their words Monday showed the sharp-edged realism with which they have approached the world since Sept. 11, 2001, a collective attitude that made their hours after Bin Laden's death perhaps as vexing as celebratory.

It's the people hit hardest, the victims, that are even questioning
Source:
Osama bin Laden's burial at sea upsets relatives of Sept. 11 victims

What a dumb move by our government. Hell, if you're going to try and convince a skeptic, you at least gotta doctor some pictures and put it out there. But, then again, people like us would analyze it to death and we would figure out it was faked anyway.

Truthfully, all we really need to do is look at 9/11 and the fact that the official story was shot all to crap years ago. We know that 9/11 didn't happen like the media told us it did.

Osama is dead, well in Hollywood, he might very well be dead. In real life, who knows? Apparently, he had kidney failure, so here again, he may have already been dead for years. It depends if Osama was an actor, or not?

All I know is 9/11 stinks of cover-up, and that is what people first and foremost need to be made aware of. Then, the fact of whether Osama is dead or not, is kind of not really the important part. We need to find the real masterminds of the disaster.

First and foremost, is the "boogeyman" really dead. The "boogeyman" will live on, Osama or not. They will just create another boogeyman. I saw one media outlet saying, "Who's next?" Here we go again, plunged into perpetual war we cannot afford. Put the country in more debt.

What pissed me off was the gas price went up the very next day, not down. The war is obviously not over. Gas should have gone down because of taking a terrorist out of power.

Troy

HaHaHa, this administration is a ******* JOKE! The american people can easily handle a picure of Obama's splattered head. They see worse ever day on the net. Ever hear of liveleak or ogrish? This is just plain sad.

Answer me this. I keep hearing that releasing the photos might be too disturbing or incite retaliation... If Bin Laden is so completely dead, wouldn't his death alone inflame followers? Why would a photograph be worse? And if it is worse, does that mean that generally a photograph would have more impact as far as proof goes?

since there many bin laden threads i want to point out what i saw on CNN yesterday

I saw Nic Robertson on CNN Today either yesterday noon or last night it was a awkward moment while i was watched,
Nic Robertson started doing his little scripted speech as usual, then CNN played the clip where Nic Robertson went to speak with some of the young university students in Abbottabad.


Then Almost all of the students in the clip surprised Nic Robertson and the CNN crew because one of the students said they know the place where he died and all of them said (No,No that was not Bin Laden) after that was over


I watched anderson cooper to see if they were going to show that video of Nic Robertson with the Abbottabad university students, it seems they didn't air it.


So then Nic Robertson claims that he spoke with a doctor and a lawyer strangely all agreeing with the offical story of the account of the raid, he kept repeating the doctor and the lawyer yet on the Anderson cooper show they removed the the reactions of those young Abbottabad university students who lived near the supposed house where, the supposed bin laden had lived.

The reason i am posting this in here did anyone of you caught that clip moment of Nic Robertson with the Abbottabad university students it seems that tonight or last night rather CNN never replayed that clip.



Sorry for my english.

Originally posted by camaro68ss
Photos of raid, dead man with a water gun and a top secret chopper???? WTF

www.abovetopsecret.com...

oh yah I saw that too. So it wasn't my imagination

I also saw a serial cable that looks like an RS232 type for computers. Wonder what was going on. I think they disconnected it and just took the computers, although I thought the official story was there was no Internet service at the compound. It's possible they had desktops with no Internet.
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reply to post by kykweer


it was absurd to catergorise people under a certain banner simply for wanting proof before totally believing something. that was my point, not that i was scared what people think of me.

i do not understand why wanting proof makes somebody a 9/11 conspiracy theorists or what ever else somebody can think up.

people just want to see the proof that they know they have and could easily show. not doing so raises questions as to why they will not show what they already have, and it would do so in any other scenerio.

if i went to buy cigerettes and i was asked for I.D. and i said no, it would raise questions, they do not have to be a certain type of person to be suspicous, it is just normal to doubt when you could prove something but choose not to. it should be understandable that people will now question it.

These videos were just released, after massive backlash from the American public.

How much more evidence do you all really want? This should settle it once and for all!

Osama Bin Laden Assassination Captured on Soldier's Helmet Cam:

This shouldn't be a surprise to anyone who knows the entire story is BS. This goes all the way back to 9/11 where this myth of Osama (or is it Usama?? Never did figure that out) was created. There is NO evidence Bin Laden had anything to do with 9/11. He was a figure created and used by the U.S. to put a face to the blame for the 9/11 attack. He has already "died" at least 9 times according people in government, not to mention the fake videos put out by the CIA. He was in a hospital right? And we knew, and did nothing about it?? I guess he really wasn't a threat.

It's lies on top of lies on top of lies. It's been going on nearing 10 years, and it's falling apart. This stunt is nothing more than desperation to keep the myth alive. The birth certificate issue is a complete joke and now OBL being dead is even more far fetched than that. Obama is laughing at the fact anyone is even buying one tiny bit of any of this! To come out and say conspiracy theorists would say any photos are fake so they wont be released is a complete slap in the face. Kind of reminds me when Bush said not to tolerate any conspiracy theories after 9/11. Do not question your government, do not scrutinize their activities. Believe only what they say is fact and go on living your life with your head in the sand.

Guess what...even with OBL "officially dead" nothing will change. The troops will not come home, gas prices will not go down, TSA will still be putting their hands down our pants, the economy will not get better...
In fact they are saying an attack on the US is "inevitable" for revenge on OBL. What will the next false flag be??

Originally posted by syrinx high priest
I'll say this for obama, he's no dummy. I'm sure it got back to him all of the internet buzz about the BC being fake, so he figures you can't convince a skeptic, so why bother. he has nothing to gain, and possibly something to lose.

just think

if you all hadn't made such a big deal about the BC, we'd probably have the UBL pics

Perhaps thats exactly what they would like us to think? Could this be the reason why they released such an obviously fake BC? It was a little too easy and obvious! Think about it......

No proof that he is dead yet everyone believes it... what are we all stupid?

reply to post by ToneDeaf


I thought it looked more like a drone too! I said that tonight to another friend of mine. Its too flat and has tiny windows. Maybe the drone found this place and they crashed it to draw attention away from their real landing spot, or even maybe the drone crashed accidentally and they decided not to let the opportunity go to waste... but seems there are dead bodies per the pakistani authorities who sold reuters the pics, just not Osama.

Just another bit of info that I saw today:

Senator Scott Brown (R) who had been shown a photo of Osama Bin Laden's corpse, now admits that it was a fake.

Of course, on Monday, he said that there was no need for the government to show photos, because he has seen the photo, and Osama was definitely dead.

Now he says that he was shown a fake. But he won't say who showed it to him.

Link: www.myfoxboston.com...

And now two other senators say that they were shown the fake photos.

So, perhaps that is why they won't release the photos to the general public.

Of course, the White House says that one reason they won't release photos is because conspiracy theorists would pick it apart and say it was fake.

Link: www.cbsnews.com...

Um...wait a minute. If Senator Brown now admits he was shown a fake photo from a "reputable source", what does that tell you?? Is Senator Brown a conspiracy theorist now?

Just another bit of info that I saw today:

Senator Scott Brown (R) who had been shown a photo of Osama Bin Laden's corpse, now admits that it was a fake.

Of course, on Monday, he said that there was no need for the government to show photos, because he has seen the photo, and Osama was definitely dead.

Now he says that he was shown a fake. But he won't say who showed it to him.

Link: www.myfoxboston.com...

And now two other senators say that they were shown the fake photos.

So, perhaps that is why they won't release the photos to the general public.

Of course, the White House says that one reason they won't release photos is because conspiracy theorists would pick it apart and say it was fake.

Link: www.cbsnews.com...

Um...wait a minute. If Senator Brown now admits he was shown a fake photo from a "reputable source", I'd like to know who that reputable source is.

Also, is Obama going to call Senator Brown a conspiracy theorist now?

reply to post by halfmanhalfamazing


Not sure what to make about the different outlooks people have, during different times, with different information.

I mean, when tape recordings of his voice were released years ago, many people screamed that they were fake and were no way anything like his voice. Furthermore, many claimed he was dead, when government and military officials said he was alive.

Many thought that the government claiming he was still alive was a way for them to advance their agenda and continue the killing and spending.

Then, it was speculated that he was indeed dead and many people said 'well, I knew it all along, he has been dead for years!'

Now that the government is saying that he is officially dead, killed just days ago, no one wants to buy it.

Is it that he is supposed to be dead that people don't buy?

Maybe it is the fact that many believe him long dead and simply don't agree with the story and circumstances being issued as official story?

Or, is it that many don't believe him dead at all and the whole story is a complete fabrication?

Maybe he never existed at all.

Personally, I definitely don't like the story, nothing about it. The timing, the drama surrounding the release of information, the lack of presentable evidence, the way the story details have changed several times over the days since the announcement.

It all smells to high heaven and I think that the President is trying to dismiss the conspiracy theorists, because he knows that it isn't the fact that conspiracy theorists have great power or great numbers, but the fact that this story is turning mass amounts of people into conspiracy minded individuals, when discussing this topic.

If the people can be made to feel as if the way they are thinking, especially if it is new to them, is wrong, they probably won't talk about it as much. Maybe they will avoid acting as if they are buying the conspiracy side to the story. Instead making fun of those who do consider that conspiracy is something that needs to be looked at long and hard.

I am sure he will come out with a statement in a few days saying 'We gave the story and didn't release the pics for a reason. Now it is time to move on, frankly we have more important things to worry about'

Probably will repeat the same exact speech he gave when discussing the release of his LFBC, with a few select words changed.

reply to post by lifeform11


What I'm saying is that if ur a 9/11 truther or whatever, and you believe the US government is the evil of all evils... Why would a photo convince you.

This isn't directed at you...

Sure there are websites like ogrish, theync... Hell there is child porn... The truth is these websites are ran by sleazy jerry springer types and the US government is a symbol of freedom to a lot of people, why should they go so low to release snuff footage. I hope they don't.

Why are you people still defending the story

Its BS from the start.

The government hasn't still released any other 9/11 pentagon videos they only released two blurred videos still showing no nothing like a boeing jet.



yet we are with some users here defending the official story from the government,