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Originally posted by Realtruth
Someone else after my own heart, calls the leader of this movement out.
Radio caller asks him about all the people donating their life savings, then hits him with this question.
"Do they get a refund on the 22nd of May?" lmao!
Listen to how he gets defensive, then stumbles and stammers when questioned, spoken like a true scammer.
What would you have said to him?
edit on 9-5-2011 by Realtruth because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by Duskangels
reply to post by HardbeatAcolyte
Sorry for being very judgmental when I wrote that. I guess I was just frustrated about all the mocking and scoffing from all the other commentors. I really do want to quicky tell you a few reasons why I trust the bible so much concerning May 21, 2011. There are many many proofs and signs that God have open the eyes of the true believers to here in these "Last Days". For instance. One proof is that years and years ago we've discovered (by Gods mercy) that the flood of Noah's day occured in 4990BC, and even more recently we've discovered that the day of judgment is in the year 2011. That is exactly 7,000 years after the flood in 4990. Using the language in 2 Peter 3:8 "One day is with the Lord as a thousand years and a thousand years is as one day.", God used Noah, who was a preacher (2 Peter 2:5) to declare that mankind had 7 days or 7,000 years to escape destruction. God also gave Noah the exact month and day that this would happen. He said that in the 2nd month of the 17th day of the month I will break open the fountains of the deep. May is exactly 7,000 years later "to the very day"
Jeremiah 28:9, "The prophet which prophesieth of peace, when the word of the prophet shall come to pass, then shall the prophet be known, that the LORD hath truly sent him."
Daniel 10:17, "For how can the servant of this my lord talk with this my lord? for as for me, straightway there remained no strength in me, neither is there breath left in me."
2 Peter 1:20, "Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation." A true Prophet NEVER gives his private interpretation. He only shares what the Lord reveals. Scripture defines Scripture, not man.
In order for this "proof" to be valid, the following must be established as true:
1. That the phrase "a day is as a thousand years" (2 Peter 3:8) is to be taken literally as a mathematical formula.
2. That the timeline of the Noachian flood is rightly to be understood allegorically, as a literal event timeline for the second coming of Christ.
3. That the 7,000 literal years should begin starting at the time Noah preached.
4. That the Noachian flood occurred in the year 4990 B.C. (because "2011 A.D. is exactly 7,000 years after 4990 B.C."), and that the timespan from the flood to our calendar year 2011 is exactly 7,000 years
1. That the phrase “a day is as a thousand years” is to be taken literally as a mathematical formula. The complete verse reads as follows:
2 Peter 3:8 8But, beloved, be not ignorant of this one thing, that one day [is] with the Lord as a thousand years, and a thousand years as one day.
Note that Camping says "God doubled the statement 'a day is as a thousand years'", however if you read the verse carefully you will see that is it only written once. What is actually written are two inverse equations, or comparisons, each written only a single time:
First comparison: "one day [is] with the Lord as a thousand years" Second comparison: "a thousand years [is] as one day"
They are exactly the opposite of each other! If we were to favor the latter equation, we must conclude, by Camping's assertions, that Judgement Day occurred approximately 10 minutes after Noah preached.
Originally posted by Duskangels
You really think that is funny? Hahahaha. Does that make you feel better? GROW UP! That stupid line has been said before over and over again. You didn't stump anyone. Tell me how that has anything to do with May 21 not happening? Mark the Bible's words. When May 21 finally dawns on us and God's righteous judgment is poured out over the whole earth you will not be laughing then. You will be shaking in you boots!, and on your knees begging God for mercy. Don't you realize you are doing and saying exactly what those just before the flood of Noah's day did and said? 2 Peter 3:3 "Knowing this first, that there shall come in the last days scoffers(YOU), walking after their own lusts, and saying, Where is the promise of His coming? for since the fathers fell asleep, all things continue as they were from the begining of the creation." God will come upon you "as a theif in the night"! Beg Him for mercy! Those dear people were doing that out of love and how dare you mock them and God. May God rebuke you!. Amen.
Time is progressing and news is leaking out from the staff of Family Radio that Harold Camping is aware that May 21, 2011 might not be judgment day after all. Consequently, he has already prepared a defense to explain to the radio listeners that he was not wrong, but that God has heard all the prayers and seen the repentance of people, and in His mercy has postponed the judgment.
Originally posted by homeskillet
the whole thing was a little sad. it reminded me of when people are suicidal and they start giving away their possessions . other people have also mentioned his attitude is definitely down. i really hope when sunday rolls on and no one has floated away or died or exploded or whatever he'll not do anything drastic.
edit on 5/18/2011 by homeskillet because: spelling
Originally posted by Konstantinos
reply to post by Duskangels
I can assure you that Matthew did not write his gospel in Greek, so there's your first mistake.
Your second is your arrogance in thinking you have figured out God's plan.
Tell me, who would the Lord favour? He who preaches the dread of judgement and fear of going to hell?
Or he who preaches tolerance, love, and acceptance of all life WITHOUT JUDGING OTHERS?
May I also point out the history of the Rapture comes from a Christian cult and not from biblical writings, or traditions?
www.orthodoxresearchinstitute.org...edit on 18-5-2011 by Konstantinos because: the sky is not falling...
Originally posted by Realtruth
Absolutely right that is sad.
I wouldn't want anything from someone that kind-hearted either.
I think we need to protect good people like that, instead of exploit.
My whole point in the OP, was not to take anything from them but to make them think about their ultimatum.
Originally posted by virraszto
According to this Judgment Day map taken from ebiblefellowship.com only a few places in Canada need to be warned about Judgment Day. How do you Canadians feel about that?
Location: Nunavut Territory, Canada
Ads in 5 Community Newspapers
Covering Various Parts of the Territory
Location: Vancouver, British Columbia, Canada
Location: Toronto, Canada
By the way, OP, thanks for posting that. If one of them comes to my door, I'm using that on them.edit on 4-5-2011 by virraszto because: (no reason given)