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posted on May, 4 2011 @ 11:25 AM
This was the question that was posed to me on facebook yesterday, by a member there called "joe black". He has the title "CSSIP, NSA, Secure+" looks pretty official. He knows a tonne about IT being an IT guy for the NSA I would believe it. I am a huge skeptic, but this guy just passes too many of the tests, he knows way too much. He handed me a letter regarding the truth about society and how it is setup. I will post it here first so that you all can read it --> then I will post the pdf's and graphics (I'll edit them in, any good hosts out there I can use that isn't a hassle? it's always a pain dealing with files on here).

Here we go:

The Truth
We are the Illuminati
Warning from Joe Black – This is the Red Pill from the Matrix movie – If you read this there is no
turning back
An illusion it will be, so large, so vast it will escape their perception. Those who will see it will be thought
of as insane. We will create separate fronts to prevent them from seeing the connection between us.
We will behave as if we are not connected to keep the illusion alive. Our goal will be accomplished one
drop at a time so as to never bring suspicion upon ourselves. This will also prevent them from seeing the
changes as they occur.
We will always stand above the relative field of their experience for we know the secrets of the
We will work together always and will remain bound by blood and secrecy. Death will come to he who
We will keep their lifespan short and their minds weak while pretending to do the opposite.
We will use our knowledge of science and technology in subtle ways so they will never see what is
We will use soft metals, aging accelerators and sedatives in food and water, also in the air.
They will be blanketed by poisons everywhere they turn. The soft metals will cause them to lose their
minds. We will promise to find a cure from our many fronts, yet we will feed them more poison. The
poisons will be absorbed through their skin and mouths, they will destroy their minds and reproductive
From all this, their children will be born dead, and we will conceal this information. The poisons will be
hidden in everything that surrounds them, in what they drink, eat, breathe and wear. We must be
ingenious in dispensing the poisons for they can see far. We will teach them that the poisons are good,
with fun images and musical tones.
Those they look up to will help. We will enlist them to
push our poisons. They will see our products being used in film and will grow accustomed to them and
will never know their true effect.
When they give birth we will inject poisons into the blood of their children and convince them its for
their help. We will start early on, when their minds are young, we will target their children with what
children love most, sweet things.
When their teeth decay we will fill them with metals that will kill their mind and steal their future.
When their ability to learn has been affected, we will create medicine that will make them sicker and
cause other diseases for which we will create yet more medicine.
We will render them docile and weak before us by our power.
They will grow depressed, slow and obese, and when they come to us for help, we will give them more
We will focus their attention toward money and material goods so they many never connect with their
inner self. We will distract them with fornication, external pleasures and games so they may never be
one with the oneness of it all.
Their minds will belong to us and they will do as we say.
If they refuse we shall find ways to implement mind-altering technology into their lives. We will use fear
as our weapon.
We will establish their governments and establish opposites within. We will own both sides.
We will always hide our objective but carry out our plan.
They will perform the labor for us and we shall prosper from their toil. Our families will never mix with
theirs. Our blood must be pure always, for it is the way.
We will make them kill each other when it suits us.
We will keep them separated from the oneness by dogma and religion. We will control all aspects of
their lives and tell them what to think and how. We will guide them kindly and gently letting them think
they are guiding themselves.
We will foment animosity between them through our factions. When a light shall shine among them, we
shall extinguish it by ridicule, or death, whichever suits us best.
We will make them rip each other's hearts apart and kill their own children. We will accomplish this by
using hate as our ally, anger as our friend. The hate will blind them totally, and never shall they see that
from their conflicts we emerge as their rulers. They will be busy killing each other.
They will bathe in their own blood and kill their neighbors for as long as we see fit. We will benefit
greatly from this, for they will not see us, for they cannot see us. We will continue to prosper from their
wars and their deaths.
We shall repeat this over and over until our ultimate goal is accomplished. We will continue to make
them live in fear and anger though images and sounds.
We will use all the tools we have to accomplish this. The tools will be provided by their labor. We will
make them hate themselves and their neighbors.
We will always hide the divine truth from them, that we are all one. This they must never know!
They must never know that color is an illusion, they must always think they are not equal. Drop by drop,
drop by drop we will advance our goal.
We will take over their land, resources and wealth to exercise total control over them.
We will deceive them into accepting laws that will steal the little freedom they will have. We will
establish a money system that will imprison them forever, keeping them and their children in debt.
When they shall ban together, we shall accuse them of crimes and present a different story to the world
for we shall own all the media.
We will use our media to control the flow of information and their sentiment in our favor.
When they shall rise up against us we will crush them like insects, for they are less than that. They will
be helpless to do anything for they will have no weapons.
We will recruit some of their own to carry out our plans, we will promise them eternal life, but eternal
life they will never have for they are not of us.
The recruits will be called "initiates" and will be indoctrinated to believe false rites of passage to higher
realms. Members of these groups will think they are one with us never knowing the truth. They must
never learn this truth for they will turn against us.
For their work they will be rewarded with earthly things and great titles, but never will they become
immortal and join us, never will they receive the light and travel the stars.
They will never reach the higher realms, for the killing of their own kind will prevent passage to the
realm of enlightenment. This they will never know.
The truth will be hidden in their face, so close they will not be able to focus on it until its too late.
Oh yes, so grand the illusion of freedom will be, that they will never know they are our slaves.
When all is in place, the reality we will have created for them will own them. This reality will be their
prison. They will live in self-delusion. When our goal is accomplished a new era of domination will begin.
Their minds will be bound by their beliefs, the beliefs we have established from time immemorial.
But if they ever find out they are our equal, we shall perish then. THIS THEY MUST NEVER KNOW.
If they ever find out that together they can vanquish us, they will take action. They must never, ever find
out what we have done, for if they do, we shall have no place to run, for it will be easy to see who we
are once the veil has fallen. Our actions will have revealed who we are and they will hunt us down and
no person shall give us shelter.
This is the secret covenant by which we shall live the rest of our present and future lives, for this reality
will transcend many generations and life spans.
This covenant is sealed by blood, our blood. We, the ones who from heaven to earth came. This
covenant must NEVER, EVER be known to exist. It must NEVER, EVER be written or spoken of for if it is,
the consciousness it will spawn will release the fury of the PRIME CREATOR upon us and we shall be cast
to the depths from whence we came and remain there until the end time of infinity itself.

Ok so maybe I've peaked your interest? How about the most bloody detailed graphs of the rothschild and barclay banking cartels then? How about a diagram showing the connectons between black organisations used by these people to push this agenda?

Here you go I uploaded the 2 pdf's I was given -- get it here:

Finally, there are some links that are not very well known, even amongst conspiracy circles. Joe would like me to spread this out there, and has indicated that there are those in the intelligence community who are not going along with it. Yes you are monitored, yes facebook, wikileaks, google, myspace, openleaks and a few others I can't remember, ALL NSA ASSETS, people are made aware of these facts after the CSSIP And Security clearance. They monitor everyone, as they have computing power to do so that you people are totally unaware of because your minds are limited into thinking of computers in today's terms. Think quantum computer guys, that's how you scan so much video and monitor every phone call. Eschalon is a quantum computer for surveilance the program isn't just "surveilance" it includes top secret technology that isn't just software.

So, here's this goes back to the warning I got in a conversation with the guy, that al-cia-duh is going to knock down the power grid, take out gas lines, and such, all remotey, because these idiots opened the system up for it intentionally. Basically they will say that a modified version of stuxnet, which has decompiled source on the web available for download, is desiged to screw with microcontroller programming. That is what makes this virus capable of doing this, because we opened up our power plants, valves and other equipment not by electronic interface but by developing the bloody microcontrollers on windows platforms. Which brings me to another point, microsoft, is indeed CIA operation. Have a look around you at this matrix of control. I've seen some good stuff here on ATS but it is doubtful even the most dedicated truth seeker would come up with pdf charts like this, they seem well enough designed, laid out and researched to indicate that they were assembled by intelligence personnel.

Could this be a setup? Maybe. But could it just be a guy on the inside wanting to do his duty for the people of this planet? Sure. I take this one skeptically, and I even told him I'm prepared to do anything I can do to make the system lose money without breaking the law and I will, this is how I fight them, because paying them isn't doing us any good. My goal is a billion dollar defecit from pissing me off. Hope the rest of you get the hint and figure you can cost the system a lot of money and if people ever figured it out, 1% of the population's civil disobedience done right is enough to bring this whole thing down. He actually likes my idea, you see, I advise canadians to buy WHOLE LEAF TOBACCO, legally pay duties and customs fees. Why I am ordering 6lbs for $140, legally, and it is legal for me to pass out free smokes, people may as well try a good organic smoke that costs me 4 cents. Maybe if I convince them to go this route instead of spending $10 a pack (for brand name smokes, 20 pack, or for organic you are looking at $14 and only one store in the town sell them). In fact our money is worth 5% more than american, I paid american for mine so that price goes down a bit (then back up because of HST), and the price for canadian smokes is even worse because of the exchange rate. Every pack a day smoker I switch over I cost these scumbags $3,000 a year. Be a burden, not a benefit, to the system that gives you nothing but huge burdens and paltry benefits that aren't even anything near what is stolen away.

Anyways I would hope that people pick this info apart. I was debating on posting it here, but seems joe would like to network more with people and he suggested I show it to people (which again makes me skeptical), but.... that detail is just awesome why haven't I ran into this before? I've spent years day in and day out researching this stuff and have yet to run into any graphs with even 1/10th of the detail as this.

So as soon as someone gives me an idea how to present these documents, I'll just run out and grab smokes or something and maybe I'll get an easier way (because I use photobucket and that doesn't work for pdfs, gotta find something new). I'm sure I'll get a few comments on this "lack of evidence", it is coming as a followup as soon as I get posting it figured out k? So don't waste the breath complaining about it and let's just examine this "truth" article mr. black wrote for us who want to see the truth.
This should get very interesting to read through if we can keep things "civil" and stick to the facts (and yes I will post more facts and stuff, anything I can get my hands on here, although I think it would be rude for me to post my personal conversations with this guy I really don't think I should do that; it would be a betrayal of trust).

Thing is.... this guy definitely knows what he's talking about regarding computers, hacking and very sensitive IT stuff. I would like to ask people here, have any of you seen any of this before? Anybody else run into Mr. Black? I told him I don't much like playing with fire but seeing as I'm curious and I'm brazen and I don't intend on commiting suicide or any illegal acts anytime soon, that I may as well look. Turns out to be a big confirmation of what I already know to be the truth about reality, banks and government.

If this guy is cointelpro then why agree? To plant bad info? That is where you come in, pick this stuff apart, especially these charts when I post them.

(edit: using imgur seems to work with pdf's dunno how well, let me know if they aren't good enough and you need higher resolution it might convert them into some other format or something).
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posted on May, 4 2011 @ 11:30 AM

I wanted to get these pics up but meh it converted my pdf's into jpegs, so I'll have to toss in an update to the original post here with the zip file link once I get that pieced together, sorry to make you guys wait.
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posted on May, 4 2011 @ 11:38 AM
How do we know that you are not the one that is recruiting "initiates" ???

I won't be losing any sleep over the OP


posted on May, 4 2011 @ 11:43 AM
Who else isn't going to read all of that?
2nd line.

posted on May, 4 2011 @ 11:50 AM
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I made it to the tenth line but only to see just how creative this thing could be, but it wasn't even entertaining.
And on Facebook?

posted on May, 4 2011 @ 11:53 AM
Interesting graphs. Def a professional job. Very interesting to say the least. Lets see how long it is before they are removed by tptb.

Meant to add, the one with the Barclays plc graph show the house of Stewart as the main focal point that everything else stems from.

The house of Stewart is (if i'm not mistaken) the Royal family. Bloodlines trace back to Scottish monarchy.

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posted on May, 4 2011 @ 11:57 AM
Can't wait for the info. I'm sure it will be an eye opener. I'll give you a suggestion via Private Message.

posted on May, 4 2011 @ 11:58 AM
I believe it. Ask yourself, can you go out into nature and just camp there for as long as you wish with no supplies? Can you really, or are you going to be fined or called crazy? Humanity's stuck in a cave people. And people actually enjoy it else it would be sorely different. A 'homeless' person is more free then us.

posted on May, 4 2011 @ 12:15 PM
reply to post by OneLife

That is what I am getting at, to deal with the people and their awakening the lights will have to go out, because they predict that you will fight amongst yourselfs, dwindle your resources and kill each other, leaving less for them to deal with afterwards. If the lights go out, see how civil people are a few weeks later when the grocery stores are barren, scant food to be found? Seriously I think even 3 months no electricity and there'd be a fair chunk of that popultion problem the elites have been having solved. (in fact I have almost no faith in very many surviving that type of ordeal, I am being optimistic by thinking maybe 50%, even that is hard to fathom because if it took an extra month to wait people out till a better number like 10% gets achieved, I think they would do that and wait as long as it takes to weed out the excess crap that is unmanageable.

I hear more people talking about the rant, I am not a professional writer I would think people would look at the charts there because I've yet to run into these anywhere and so far nobody here says that they've seen them before (and I doubt anyone will) and further to that, professional indeed we've been picking at them and the only thing I can find fault with is that gif image, the pdf's (which converted over to jpg) are just to damn detailed! Seriously, I would be bringing those two documents by your politicians office and mention to them this is how two banks run everything including this joke of a country (I live in canada, but from what I can tell every country on earth is turning into the same joke). Few more minutes still looking for a good hosting site.

Also I don't really pass up on any opportunities to see what he's willing to share. Does anyone have any questions maybe next time I talk I'll ask and see what I sort of answers I can toss out there? I mean he isn't telling people anything that isn't already known.

Has anybody heard the slogan, "in god we trust, the rest of you we watch"?
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posted on May, 4 2011 @ 12:18 PM
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Check your Private Messages, I sent you a suggestion. PM me when they are uploaded, I want to save a copy before they/them get to them. Then post the download link here.

posted on May, 4 2011 @ 12:24 PM

posted on May, 4 2011 @ 12:30 PM
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There's only so many people going to 'believe' this though. Everyone has their own beliefs. Ones who rely on the system for everything won't see anything from this as they rely on it. Others that have slowly fallen away from the system, backing away from the cancer, would likely be able to see this like ATS does. What counts though is not supporting it. It is walking the walk, rather then just talking the talk. It's going back to our Mother Earth. Thank you for this little tidbit. It does seem well put together.

Nothing is impossible. The only proof one needs it to see that statement then ask themselves what is and isn't possible in this day and life in society. It's not possible to camp out on Mother Earth, it's not possible that money really isn't needed.

posted on May, 4 2011 @ 12:33 PM
Got the PDFs, now it is time to dig in.
Barcley's Hotfile Copy

Red Shield Hotfile Copy

Happy hunting.

posted on May, 4 2011 @ 12:44 PM
reply to post by Skada

Well you get a star at least for making it more presentable. I'm too lazy for that and I know how much people round here like things to be a certain way. I haven't so much time for talk nowadays, too much stuff to do. I'm ready for the lights to go out but I could always use more supplies ---> does that more supplies thing ever end? I can't ever seem to get enough stuff stockpiled and I swear my apartment will collapse if I go much more nuts. LOL! I carefully spread out 450 litres of water in water jugs along a 25' stretch of wall, to disperse some of the strain into the neighbors unit so I can store more stuff in my apartment, will do the same for the other side, but then I also got 450L of garden out on my balcony + 40 L for a gravity feed water system (I set a depth, pressurize the vessel and walk away, looking into automating with a micro-controller, like audrino or something). Seriously I'm ready that's when I can feel alive again, this sick society and culture makes me feel so dead inside.

I'll be honest, with that fukushima deal I decided that I would drink out of that stash as much as possible and I would water my garden with it. After that nuke-like explosion I freaked out and finished cleaning the water jugs of nasties since they were from a recycling plant. Had to toss out one bottle cuz it reeked of solvant while I was filling it, what kind of retard does that with a water-cooler bottle? You know some people would call that incredibly paranoid, but I'd rather drink clean water out of those type 7 bottles thoroughly cleaned and sterilized than out of that sink faucet containing god knows how much internal emitters, ceasium, yum yum yum!

So there are sort of two topics, surviving lights out time, and these two documents presented that are interesting enough to make me lend a bit of extra credibility to his suggestion. Besides that, didn't your leaders make a promise (kyoto and other co2 cap agreements) to cut emissions so much that they would literally have to do this in order to comply?
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posted on May, 4 2011 @ 12:49 PM
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It is definitely time to grow a garden, get off the grid, and take care of yourself instead of relying on them/their services/slave devices (Gasoline, Electricity, Grocery Stores, Ect.).

Also, time to help your fellow human being and not your "Fellow Corporation".

posted on May, 4 2011 @ 01:02 PM
Wonder what would happen if these docs somehow found there way into the msm....?

posted on May, 4 2011 @ 01:11 PM
reply to post by OneLife

Actually there's a few ATS members on my facebook as well, they would have watched it. Casey M? Not sure what his handle here and I think it'd be rude to give out personal info like a FULL name or facebook link, but if he notices (or any of the others on my FB) he might post a remark or two, or even look further. I would post the facebook group the guy runs but honestly, that could be a little messy I can picture just how many ways doing that could backfire on me. I'll just post what I can but if these charts don't take you guys back a little I dunno what will.

Also to back up my notion that the intelligence community is split, may I present the leaks that do occur as evidence. Assuming wikileaks and openleaks are controlled releases of spin (as I've suggested) that still leaves cryptome and the countless other sources that have gotten a leak becase your government has been caught red handed doing something evil. Some of those leaks ought to be real enough, their existence is proof that there is this divide in the intelligence community. I know that's not as tangeable as a study or survey or whatever but this is a conspiracy forum and not a place for solid, hard fact. The fact of the matter is, clearly, the public are missing quite a number of solid hard facts given the sort of BS it is currently buying (like a fake BC for obama, A spur of the moment assassination and funeral for OBL. Recent government activities are definitely creepy, because they have ramped up the BS big time! I mean this is on orders of magnitude more bold than anything they've ever attempted to pull on people, they are getting real bold considering we just keep letting them get away with it. They looted your retirements and you didn't hang them in the village square, so then they threw your constitution out the window, and guess what you are all still playing along with it thinking the system will correct itself. No. It will correct you, The general public doesn't know how to say NO! enough anymore for it to make any differnce. In elections people are divided so much between two or a few more flavours of globalist tyranny and they pretend like thy actually picked something they want. How rediculous. Am I the only one that is so fed up that short of violence the only way to fight them is to end this system by depriving even the scraps that are thrown from getting to other people? Cuz I don't want their scraps, nor their help, I'd rather take my chances without their meddling, even in the middle of a pack of ravenous looters I'd rather deal with that than a pack of jackbooted tyrant thugs wanting to irradiate me and feed me chemicals like I'm some farmed cash cow and their property to fool into thinking a lot of things that aren't true about the reality of the situation, and their parasitic relationship. I don't want none of it, none of the above, they put that on a ballot and then we'll see what a real majority is like.
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posted on May, 4 2011 @ 01:20 PM
reply to post by ATSecretAgent

oh god yes please do, send them there, I won't do it, but if they make their way there I would be happy. In fact, poster the town with them. Do it legally of course. Go in front of these businesses and hand out the chart. I'll hand a few of these out at mcdonalds, put a copy on each table, highlight mcdonalds, leave it there for customers to run into. If I were an employee I would print up tray mats and make the hidden side contain that chart instead of nutritional information (LOL) and just swap in the new pack for employees to distribute for me. Cmon people there are plenty of ways to mess with their control grid, only, who's being creative in fighting them and who is just talking about it, and how many people end up seeming like the only answer that'll ever work is violence?

The answer is not violence, but it isn't about being nice either --> being nice to your fellow citizen isn't going to help when they sell you off by playing into this scam, you end up bullied by their stupidity and a system that takes advantage of it.

Which is safer? Leaving you kids, wallet, food, water, education, future livlihood and happyness in the hands of your government, OR , not doing that and being responsible for yourself with the help of your community?
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posted on May, 4 2011 @ 01:22 PM
Well you posted some actual PDFs for people to look at and provided more information than others who usually create these kinds of threads.

My advice would be to use paragraphs, because a lot of people would be put off reading huge walls of text.

The whole thing is interesting and it's actually enough to make someone incredibly paranoid.

How did you come across this person on Facebook?

Did he add you as a friend? If so, why did he choose to add you?

posted on May, 4 2011 @ 01:24 PM
reply to post by TheLastStand

Yeah but if we are to take what you said as true, then the media would bury this story or ridicule it to high heaven.

Anyone who saw it would think "this is crazy" and throw it in the trash.

Infact if any of this IS true then most likely you'd be assassinated or have some sort of nasty accident.

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