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Originally posted by bobbobulau
reply to post by madnessinmysoul
Science provides knowledge. God provides wisdom.
Knowledge with out Wisdom is a wild animal, that attacks all life.
If you need proof read the news.
Look at our environment. Look at the government. Look at our society. Just open your eyes and look.
As people look to the universe, we ask who started the big bang, then we see the universe point to God.
If God didn't light the fuse, what did?
If you don't have an answer, you shouldn't rule out other solutions so easily.
Citation needed. I've yet to see any deity provide anything
I'm sorry, but how does understanding that water is a combination of two hydrogen atoms with an oxygen atom attack anything?
Yes, all those life saving medicines, atheists donating billions to charity, all of the farming techniques
That's not really an argument...what about our environment is a result of science? What about government? What about society?
No...there is no reason to ask 'who'. Hell, the event could have happened on its own. I don't know. Of course, that's just me being honest. I could say a unicorn farted and then lit a match and that was what caused the big bang. That explanation would be equally valid. Yes, I should. That which is asserted without evidence can be dismissed without evidence.
Originally posted by eyesdown
For me Buddhism explains every aspect of life. It shows that we are all part of the same concoiusness, it shows there are spirits (ghosts) and higher spirits. It also takes into account science/quantum physics, string theory is the scientific explanation to the collective consiousness. The detachment that part of Buddhism, is something I have felt due to depersonalisation/ derealisation so this makes sense to me. In fact everything that I have experienced in my life I could not find answers for in one place. I could not be atheist because I felt like there was more, I could not be christian/ muslim/sihk/jewish because these are dogmatic practices that ask me to accept without questioning to take the bible/koran e.c.t as literal word of god.
Where as Buddha says
“Believe nothing, no matter where you read it, or who said it, no matter if I have said it, unless it agrees with your own reason and your own common sense.”
I think if Buddha were around today he would be on ATS
Buddhism is progression not oppression. I am not Buddhist but I would like to be and have been considering it for some time.
Originally posted by ErgoTheConfusion
These same teachings are found even more deeply and broadly in Taoist teachings in particular.
Hindu teachings also contain these same principles. Much of the Bahai faith is based in the same perspectives and principles. The Law of One is these principles taken to the most complete point I've found thus far.
The original Christian teachings are the same... as are the Jewish. What you are perceiving as "Christian" is actually a political control mechanism distortion meant to control and manipulate. This is unfortunate and certainly worth rejecting in my view as well, but if you take this to discard all of the underlying teachings, you will be missing the very real alignment with your world view that both of these belief systems are founded on. Especially the more esoteric Christian teachings such as the Gospel of Thomas and others. When you trace them back to their original teachings and not the ones manipulated by later people... you will find that they are basically teaching the same thing as Buddhism.
Buddhism has its organized aspect as well... with its own dogmas to be overcome... but you are correct in identifying that it hasn't been corrupted as much as Christianity, etc.
Taoism and the Law of One are less corrupted that Buddhism (on an organized level).
Knowing your true self regardless of anything else "out there" is the least corrupted of all.
Christianity is also progression not oppression... if you are willing to look past the manipulated aspects of it and seek deeper. Just as to fully appreciate Buddhism you have to look past the mass organization and different "sects" that all teach conflicting "truths". I have appreciated my time with Buddhists, but I personally do not feel the teachings are intended to stop at being a Buddhist. Though if this is someone's choice, I do not reject that either... but since the OP was asking for other views...
Thank you for the opportunity to share.
edit on 4-5-2011 by ErgoTheConfusion because: (no reason given)
Originally posted by eyesdown
Thanks for your reply. I understand that my response may have come across as a little ignorant towards others or of other faiths
Originally posted by eyesdown
but when I look around the world as it is now I look at the effects religion is still doing to people. Many faiths may as you say have been founded in good heart and have the same teachings, i admit my knowledge of other religions could be better, but it is the rigid (collect) behaviour of the people that follow the religions that sway me from them.
Originally posted by eyesdownAlso the bible and koran to me are clearly evident that they are the word of man not god.
Originally posted by eyesdownAs a feminist, I find it hard to see that a god could place men above women and if god had spoken to people back in the day would he not have told them about equality, as the world has slowly evolved to on its own? This shows me that these religious texts were written by men of the time who wrote only of what they could perceive.
Originally posted by eyesdownAnyway minor rant over. I have heard of Taoism but not looked into much , so yes I will do and you are correct in the fact that knowing your true self is important. I just fear that religious texts aim to suppress some peoples true emotions, because of the FEAR of god as opposed to the LOVE of god.