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An imam from the Al-Aqsa Mosque in Jerusalem vowed to take revenge over "the western dogs" for killing Al-Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden in Pakistan on Sunday.
Originally posted by Praetorius
reply to post by kimish
Yeah. First off, that's a stupid idea as pretty much every government in the world does pretty much everything without the knowledge of approval of their people. Enough innocents have died already. How happy would you be if the american people started getting punished real-time for the sins of our own government - or do you somehow think the government is blameless and pure?
Secondly, we've been messing around in their territory and killing their civilians with drone and likely missle strikes and other incursions for years now anyway. Not exactly like we haven't provoked them in the first place. If this is all true and they knew about it, I'd chock it up to blowback...of the mildest sort.
Third, Pakistan is a nuclear state. You really want to open up that can of worms and HOPE we take out their full nuclear capacity with the first strike?
Next - prepare to deal with the rest of the arab world (at least) that's already almost at the breaking point.
Please - add to rational discussion. Not insanity.
I apologize, that was my emotions getting the best of me. Instead we should cut off all aid to Pakistan and use that money to take care of our people here. Better?
"Fear is the path to the dark side: fear leads to anger, anger leads to hate, hate leads to suffering."
Mind you, they are training thousands of people to kill Christian infidels and have successfully done so. But that doesn't make casualties of war acceptable ie. killing innocents with drone strikes and missiles. I say you nip it in the bud before it has time to blossom. What say you?
The US has full capability render their nuclear capability useless within a 24hr period. Mind you the weapons we are using now in the "war" are outdated. Even the drones and missiles. That should at least give you an Idea of the US military capability. If we can fire a missile from over a mile away and have it land in a window and THAT tech is outdated from what we have.... It just makes you think
Originally posted by CodeRed3D
J'lem imam: Obama will soon hang
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An imam from the Al-Aqsa Mosque in Jerusalem vowed to take revenge over "the western dogs" for killing Al-Qaeda leader Osama bin Laden in Pakistan on Sunday.
Perhaps, but still not anything I'd want to leave to chance. They *officially* have at least 80 warheads and even if we, as a nation, end up "winning" such an exchange - don't we actually end up as losers?
The Natural Resources Defense Council (NRDC) estimates that Pakistan has built 24-48 HEU-based nuclear warheads, and Carnegie reports that they have produced 585-800 kg of HEU, enough for 30-55 weapons. Pakistan's nuclear warheads are based on an implosion design that uses a solid core of highly enriched uranium and requires an estimated 15-20 kg of material per warhead. According to Carnegie, Pakistan has also produced a small but unknown quantity of weapons grade plutonium, which is sufficient for an estimated 3-5 nuclear weapons.
Pakistani authorities claim that their nuclear weapons are not assembled. They maintain that the fissile cores are stored separately from the non-nuclear explosives packages, and that the warheads are stored separately from the delivery systems. In a 2001 report, the Defense Department contends that "Islamabad's nuclear weapons are probably stored in component form" and that "Pakistan probably could assemble the weapons fairly quickly." However, no one has been able to ascertain the validity of Pakistan's assurances about their nuclear weapons security.
Development of the missile began in 1993 in cooperation with North Korea. The Ghauri is similar to the North Korean No Dong missile, although Pakistani President Pervez Musharaff insists that Pakistan develops all its missiles indigenously. The Ghauri was flight tested in April 1998 and traveled 1,100 km. Shortly thereafter, Pakistan announced its ability to equip the Ghauri with nuclear warheads.
Following an Indian test of its Agni missile in April 1999, Pakistan test fired a Ghauri-2 (Haft-6) missile. Although the missile traveled only 1,100 kilometers to hit its target, the limit was likely imposed by Pakistan's territorial boundaries. The Ghauri-2's range has been estimated at up to 2,300 kilometers. Because of their liquid-fuel and consequent long preparation time before a launch, the versions of the Ghauri may be vulnerable to Indian strikes. Additionally, a Ghauri-3 missile is under development. Pakistan reportedly envisions a range of approximately 3,000 kilometers for it.
And, nukes aside, I would hardly think China irrelevant - having trouble finding the articles on it now, but some weeks back it came out that the US had been war-gaming China conflict as well, and China would defeat us decisively just as a result of volume.
Originally posted by Aim64C
Pakistan is hardly what one would call a nuclear country.
They fall in the same league as China - irrelevant. In the hideously unlikely scenario that their full arsenal would reach their targets and properly detonate - we could keep on chugging. Katrina was a worse disaster than Pakistan could ever hope to cause to our country with its nuclear arsenal.