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Burial at Sea / Lack of Evidence / MSM Story DEBUNKED

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posted on May, 3 2011 @ 04:08 PM
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There have been 2 main theories the MSM has handfed us to support a burial at sea.

1) Burial at sea prevents radical muslims from building a shrine at his grave, perhaps further radicalizing them.
The problem with this theory is that, radical Muslims do not worship Osama, they do not worship false prophets, or idols, or shrines, they worship Allah. The below article seems to show that radical muslims do not even CARE that Osama has died.
www.guardian.co.uk...

2) Burial at sea is in accordance with muslim practices, and we are doing this to prevent further radicalization.
The problem with this theory is that muslims know that this is not in accordance with muslim practices unless OBL were to have died at sea, which is in disagreement with the official story, where he died of his wounds (to head and chest) in his house. The more radical muslims are quite upset about this actually.


Additionally, I heard that no reporters or cameras, phones, video, were allowed with Navy SEAL Team 6 so as to not compromise the mission.



I'm sorry but with the U.S. army's penchant for taking death pics and vids, you'd think there'd be at least one headshot of this guy, public enemy #1. In addition, it makes no sense that he was killed, considering he'd be full of information, he's worth more alive as per his REWARD, etc etc.


So there you have it, we need the exact GPS coordinates of Osama's death at sea and we need to find his body no matter what the cost. We need to know whether our government is still capable of telling any truth. This is the most subversive, evil thing they could do, is garner support for more warfare, more spending, more political hackery, when what we needed was less war, less spending, less political governments. This story coupled with the fake birth certificate, the rampant spending, and the sinking U.S. dollar, along with the multiple global wars we are fighting, is enough to overthrow our government morally. AND NONE OF THIS, is even up for debate, these are all instances where our government has strikingly FAILED at being responsible, and it is our job to remove them.

We are angering the ENTIRE muslim world, and an attack WILL COME, and it will be framed as an ATTACK TO AVENGE OBL and be used to politically garner support for another war.

We lose again, this is as bad as 9/11 if you ask me.
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posted on May, 3 2011 @ 04:11 PM
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And what is your theory as to why they faked it?

All I see as your evidence is an article from the Guardian. This is not enough evidence to convince me..

Sorry



posted on May, 3 2011 @ 04:15 PM
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Originally posted by wildshoetwt
There have been 2 main theories the MSM has handfed us to support a burial at sea.

1) Burial at sea prevents radical muslims from building a shrine at his grave, perhaps further radicalizing them.
The problem with this theory is that, radical Muslims do not worship Osama, they do not worship false prophets, or idols, or shrines, they worship Allah. The below article seems to show that radical muslims do not even CARE that Osama has died.
www.guardian.co.uk...


I can't understand the reasoning behind this not wanting them to have a "shrine" for Osama followers (which is, as you point out, not likely anyway). Why wouldn't they want this? Imagine the intelligence gathering opportunities of such a place. If any terrorist were stupid enough to go near it, that is.



posted on May, 3 2011 @ 04:17 PM
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Here's the proof :

www.youtube.com...

Warning : May be disturbing to some people.

There you have it. Osama Bin Laden. Dead. And you are one of the first in the world to see it. Because for some reason, no news outlet will show the true pictures without permission from the government. So they just show you fakes.
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posted on May, 3 2011 @ 04:20 PM
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The reasons to fake this are many, IMO

Distract the public from the birth cert. debacle
Presidential elections are right around the corner and Obama's approval ratings in the cellar
Distract attention from what the OTHER hand is doing...

These are just a few reasons why this "Ace In the Hole" may be getting played at this time.



posted on May, 3 2011 @ 04:21 PM
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"Autopsy photo"? Really? They had time for an autopsy? Not bloody likely.



posted on May, 3 2011 @ 04:23 PM
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I thought the same at first too, but then I figured out exactly what they mean when they say they did it for Muslim custom (whether they actually did it, I don't know, but I do at least understand what they meant now).

It is this:


Also, if an enemy may dig up the grave to mutilate the body, it is also allowed to bury the deceased at sea to avoid mutilation.



posted on May, 3 2011 @ 04:25 PM
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Originally posted by liejunkie01
And what is your theory as to why they faked it?

All I see as your evidence is an article from the Guardian. This is not enough evidence to convince me..

Sorry


Why they faked it? The reasons are numerous, I don't even have to go into them. The WHY is so easy to understand it's not even worth mentioning, it's the HOW they are going about faking this that is worth analyzing because it HAS TO BE FAKE, there is no way Osama who was on kidney dialysis in a cave for 10 years is still alive...



posted on May, 3 2011 @ 04:25 PM
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As fake as fake gets.



posted on May, 3 2011 @ 04:26 PM
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Youtube is a sham.
Nothing is debunked by this thread either.
Sounds like a bunch of crackpot theories to me.



posted on May, 3 2011 @ 04:28 PM
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Originally posted by sepermeru
I thought the same at first too, but then I figured out exactly what they mean when they say they did it for Muslim custom (whether they actually did it, I don't know, but I do at least understand what they meant now).

It is this:


Also, if an enemy may dig up the grave to mutilate the body, it is also allowed to bury the deceased at sea to avoid mutilation.




I read this as well but it makes no sense....they could do this and not tell people where it is, except a specified few under proper supervision.

Then we'd have all the evidence we want.

Right now all we have is:
"yup, the DNA is good, bodies in the ocean, you can trust us" -sincerely, your government



Originally posted by PoopDawg
reply to post by Mallik
 

Youtube is a sham.
Nothing is debunked by this thread either.
Sounds like a bunch of crackpot theories to me.


This thread debunks the reasoning of the official story, it makes no sense, does not compute, and thus either our government is once again proven colossally stupid and irresponsible, or they are lying. They won't seem to admit they are stupid, so I think it's safe to say they are LYING.
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posted on May, 3 2011 @ 04:29 PM
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That is not a fake. Find the photo it was photoshopped from and prove me wrong.



posted on May, 3 2011 @ 04:29 PM
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Originally posted by wildshoetwt

Originally posted by liejunkie01
And what is your theory as to why they faked it?

All I see as your evidence is an article from the Guardian. This is not enough evidence to convince me..

Sorry


Why they faked it? The reasons are numerous, I don't even have to go into them. The WHY is so easy to understand it's not even worth mentioning, it's the HOW they are going about faking this that is worth analyzing because it HAS TO BE FAKE, there is no way Osama who was on kidney dialysis in a cave for 10 years is still alive...


It sounds as if you are addicted to other msm untruths. If you didn't get the memo, he was killed in a compound, not a cave. It seems as if he really was not in a cave for ten years.

Your reasons are only speculation.



posted on May, 3 2011 @ 04:35 PM
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Are you serious?


This looks like a reworked, b&w version of the old fake that people FINALLY stopped posting here. Plus look at the date they stuck on it. But hey, the frills are a nice touch.



posted on May, 3 2011 @ 04:39 PM
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That picture looks nothing like Osama.
It also looks poorly edited.
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posted on May, 3 2011 @ 04:39 PM
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Originally posted by ~Lucidity
reply to post by Mallik
 

Are you serious?


This looks like a reworked, b&w version of the old fake that people FINALLY stopped posting here. Plus look at the date they stuck on it. But hey, the frills are a nice touch.


The reason it looks like a rework of the old one is because half of the old one actually was bin laden, but notice how his mouth is in another position. This is the real Bin Laden. Deal with it.



posted on May, 3 2011 @ 04:44 PM
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If this is what you call debunking a story, I think you need to raise your standards.


Originally posted by wildshoetwt
There have been 2 main theories the MSM has handfed us to support a burial at sea.

1) Burial at sea prevents radical muslims from building a shrine at his grave, perhaps further radicalizing them.

2) Burial at sea is in accordance with muslim practices, and we are doing this to prevent further radicalization.


How is that two different reasons?

reply to post by Mallik
 


Did you notice the date of 4/27/11 on that video?

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posted on May, 3 2011 @ 04:44 PM
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Originally posted by Benevolent Heretic
If this is what you call debunking a story, I think you need to raise your standards. It's very possible a proper burial at sea would serve to meet both reasons.

reply to post by Mallik
 


Did you notice the date of 4/27/11 on that video?



Yeap i did notice. Don't ask me why it's wrong. That is the real Bin Laden.



posted on May, 3 2011 @ 04:45 PM
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Originally posted by Elostone
The reasons to fake this are many, IMO

Distract the public from the birth cert. debacle
Presidential elections are right around the corner and Obama's approval ratings in the cellar
Distract attention from what the OTHER hand is doing...

These are just a few reasons why this "Ace In the Hole" may be getting played at this time.


who said we put people in office it doesnt matter



posted on May, 3 2011 @ 04:48 PM
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Originally posted by Mallik
Don't ask me why it's wrong. That is the real Bin Laden.


So, don't ask you any questions about it, just accept that it's the truth, because Malik says so?

No, thanks.




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