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The science of cloaking a craft from footage/images

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posted on May, 3 2011 @ 03:36 AM
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Thought about this again after seeing this thread : www.abovetopsecret.com...

..and decided to see if any of us can come up with any decent ideas on how a craft would actually cloak itself from cameras. For instance, with an image sensor, maybe it's possible for a craft to be cloaked from the way the sensor picks up light? Or to avoid being captured when the image is saved in some way?

The biggest one is : if you can see a UFO through the viewfinder when you're recording/about to take a picture, how could it then be lost when you play it back/check the image? It might not seem possible, but could you imagine a way that makes any type of sense?

Or is this whole idea barking up the wrong tree? I'd guess that it might be, but thought it was worth asking anyway. I just think there's something to this, that in some way it's possible.


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posted on May, 3 2011 @ 03:46 AM
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maybe they can bend light or time and thats how the sensor can't pick it up
or the ufo is a colour unknowen to the camara
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posted on May, 3 2011 @ 03:57 AM
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Originally posted by audio assasin
maybe they can bend light or time and thats how the sensor can't pick it up
or the ufo is a colour unknowen to the camara
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That's interesting, if it was possible that could be right in some way. With the colour part, maybe the viewfinder could pick it up, but the actual capturing process wouldn't recognise it? That's pretty cool, thanks.



posted on May, 3 2011 @ 04:40 AM
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UFO cloaking tech...

Hmmm well the way they do it is [classified]. Our military has been using the technique on stealth [classified]. It involves plasma energizing the skin that has a [classified] coating made out of nano [classified].

In emails from the patent holder..



I just wanted you to know that yes...I keep very busy and I'm on a 'mission'! My Mission is to keep America safe through development of some very exotic technologies. And yes, as you mentioned, I've worked on/with HAARP. If you want to learn more about that see US Patent #xxxxx. If you read the patent you'll understand the relevance to HAARP and the Stealth Bombers, etc. You're an intelligent man and I'm certain that you'll be able to make the connection. If you read US Patent xxxxxx, you'll understand (a little better) my connection to/with and collaboration with these men. LOL...suffice it to say that the 'Predator' (as in the movie) is alive/living at Los Alamos!


and...



I am free to talk about any of my published US Patents which are in the public domain. I am, however, under an edict from DoD under the NSA to 'report any inquiries relative to the stealth patent'. I had a phone call from a person who identified himself as an 'Undersectetary of Defense' and the person read a statement to me which I later found was excerpted from the National Security Act, as amended. I was 'ordered' to report any inquiries of any kind, by anyone, to DoD relative to that case (patent). I've only had to do that one time in 20 years when a group of Isreali's, based in Philly, contacted me relative to undertaking collaboration on some 'project' in Haifa. I reported this as instructed and the group 'disappeared' shortly thereafter.


Special ops soldier caught on tape wearing top secret stealth INVISIBILITY suit!



Now if I tell you any more I would have to shoot you

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posted on May, 3 2011 @ 05:09 AM
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Shocking video!


The military are really lights year ahead!

Imagine what they hide.... Zorgon



posted on May, 3 2011 @ 08:47 AM
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Seriously? How invisibility cloaks work? I'll tell you right after I've finished this equasion that explains how the universe works. oO....

All I got is this little interesting clip




posted on May, 3 2011 @ 01:44 PM
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Originally posted by Arken
Imagine what they hide.... Zorgon


They hide lots of things
That is the purpose of cloaking after all.
What was really cool is that one of the sceptics here (now nolonger a member) actually applies that 'coating' to non existent secret space planes somewhere in California. How he came to tell me was a really odd set of circumstances


He almost came out of the closet before he 'left' Pity that... he could have proved several of my posts



posted on May, 3 2011 @ 01:52 PM
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Originally posted by dude69
Seriously? How invisibility cloaks work?


Well there is the Japanese one

Optical Camouflage (Invisible Cloak)



Not quite Harry Potter yet

Now the real stuff... You all know how fiber optics work yes? Light goes in a tube, you bend it where you want, and light comes out the new direction, very little detectable leak from the side.

Now imagine a nano material that does the same, but each particle can be controlled by energy to direct the light in any direction.So you apply this 'coating' and energize it, and effectively the light from behind the object is bent around the object and effectively you cannot see the object.

One problem we still have is that they cannot cloak the heat signature/exhaust of stealth planes... so that makes for some very interesting UFO sightings



posted on May, 3 2011 @ 02:46 PM
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Originally posted by dude69
Seriously? How invisibility cloaks work? I'll tell you right after I've finished this equasion that explains how the universe works. oO....


Yeah I knew it was far out, that's why I mentioned that it might be barking up the wrong tree, etc. I still think there's something to it though. Thanks for the cloaking stuff too zorgon, have seen both clips before I think, but not heard about that nano-related cloak theory, sounds pretty amazing.

Am still wondering how you could have it so that even if it's clearly seen it can manage to disappear from footage/photo's, but the first reply might be on the right track. And that UFO/football clip was weird!
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posted on May, 3 2011 @ 03:53 PM
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My guess is that the cloaking process is performed by some kind of high tech laser holographic projector. They just take a picture or a video of anything they want to project. Then they plaster the still or moving image on the magnetic force defense shield surrounding there ship.

Another guess- Is the magnetic force defense shield, can be used to avoid radar and heat detecting missiles.

To travel in Earth's atmosphere, these would be the three critical components in the avoidance of possibly getting shot down by any of the Earth's military power's.

Since, it is almost a proven fact that the other-worlder's have a electronic particle beam disabler; that disables electronic equipment with an EMP effect.


Cheer's,

Erno86
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posted on May, 3 2011 @ 04:13 PM
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invisible (cloaking) tech serves only one singular purpose
to murder more efficiently.

Such tech, although truely brilliant conceptually, should be banned (except for hiding from space invaders maybe)..otherwise, its just flat out evil

I wonder how much time and resources they put into creating this and if instead, they could have created a replicator (Computer, tea, earl gray, hot)...eliminating the overall reason for most wars.

this sort of depresses me. I am a tech addict (transhumanist), but even I don't like this tech from existing...again, there is only one single purpose for its function, and that is to enhance killing.

consider this tech in the hands of "evil-doers" (as if its not already).



posted on May, 3 2011 @ 04:22 PM
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We see stars that are theoretically directly on the other side of the sun
the light bends around it...so, gravity appears to be the answer overall

Something that pushes light away from an object seems to be the key verses suck lightwaves in..which means what...anti-gravity?

would a radio frequency played at the right amplitude create enough of a wavelength to direct light to go around? could be another answer.

I say we all just grab zorgon and waterboard him until either he tells us, or grows gills.



posted on May, 3 2011 @ 04:38 PM
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Originally posted by zorgon

Originally posted by dude69
Seriously? How invisibility cloaks work?


Well there is the Japanese one

Optical Camouflage (Invisible Cloak)




You do know thats just overlay techniques, right? (see, greenscreen)...

Not nice to spread disinfo. -scornful look-



posted on May, 3 2011 @ 08:59 PM
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Originally posted by SaturnFX
You do know thats just overlay techniques, right? (see, greenscreen)...

Not nice to spread disinfo. -scornful look-


I really doubt zorgon will be willingly spreading disinfo, (Waterboarding him might get us quite a bit of decent info though!) and have you got sources for that not being what it seems to be please, if that's what you think? Thanks for your other posts too.
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posted on May, 4 2011 @ 03:28 AM
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Originally posted by Hitoshura

Originally posted by SaturnFX
You do know thats just overlay techniques, right? (see, greenscreen)...

Not nice to spread disinfo. -scornful look-


I really doubt zorgon will be willingly spreading disinfo, (Waterboarding him might get us quite a bit of decent info though!) and have you got sources for that not being what it seems to be please, if that's what you think? Thanks for your other posts too.
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Ya, he knows I am joking (about the disinfo bit...not the waterboarding...he has that coming).
I think he just left out the part where he explains its just camera trickery.

Source for greenscreen methods? sure..


I could post endless user created videos that are horrible, but I think you get the point.



posted on May, 4 2011 @ 03:46 PM
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Originally posted by SaturnFX
You do know thats just overlay techniques, right? (see, greenscreen)...


Yes the Japanese cloak is a trick, an optical illusion... but then a simple google search will show that


As to the real stuff... I do have a copy of the patent... and a copy is available at the patent office, but as the owner said, only the non-classified uses of the material are in the public version. The thing is for me personally, that lead to a whole sequence of events and data which I cannot yet openly share all of it... So for now all I can do is toss out the teasers. I ALMOST had the support until the 'painter' got banned just as he was about to speak out... Oh well... it will likely be out soon anyway, now that the AF is flying its own 'secret shuttles'

There is one other 'side effect to the cloaking material... if it can bend/deflect light. that means it can also bend/ deflect any other EM radiation as well ie radar, microwaves, lasers, DEW's etc...

Think about that angle MR Techie


Joe told me that a license plate cover of this material would be enough to deflect police radar


SHHHH
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posted on May, 4 2011 @ 03:49 PM
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Maybe they can simply read the frequency the human eye and human visual technology sees and adjust accordingly?
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posted on May, 4 2011 @ 04:02 PM
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Originally posted by SaturnFX
I say we all just grab zorgon and waterboard him until either he tells us, or grows gills.


Hmmm... well how about a few more hints? Problem is yawl will demand proof
But here is a flow chart of events. Take it or leave it

1) The original material was made in orbit, in zero G...
....a) I have been informed that there was 'outside assistance' in the formula
....b) This was BEFORE ISS was in orbit
2) Material returned to earth via shuttle missions
....a) Several shuttle missions prior to ISS were DoD only missions flown by US military astronauts. While the mission was a public launch, the actual mission was top secret. This can be confirmed even on Wikipedia
....b) several of those missions had a return weight that was and is still today, classified. This too is confirmed on wikipedia
3) Patent holder was 'convinced' to sell the rights to the DoD... they paid him $1.00
4) The material consist of nano microspheres that can be charged, thus controlled. That is a big clue for techies to look up

5) I already mentioned the connection to HAARP as a provider of a control signal
....a) see my NASA and NAVY 'chemtrail' thread to see a non classified experiment using this same method
6) A poster on ATS was a long time skeptic. One day he was given a temp boot and was bored so he U2U'ed me. After a long exchange that was fruitful, he devulged some info to me that I was able to check. Turns out his dad worked on star wars platforms that DID make it to space and his current job was someone who applied the material onto crafts that he described as "You wouldn't believe it!". He also linked me to the manufacturer of that material and gave me the price of $65,000 per 5 gallon pail.

So to me... I have all the proof I need... Maybe one day I will have all the papers to back it all up... but likely by that time it will be as my signature says...

"All truth passes through three stages. First it is ridiculed. Second it is violently opposed. Third it is accepted as being self-evident". - Arthur Schopenhauer

But at least I will be able to say "I told you so!" Like I could when PBS NOVA released "Astrospies"

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posted on May, 4 2011 @ 04:09 PM
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I think your Special ops cloaking soldier is due to bad pixelation.

This vid below show the exact same disappearing of people.
From 2:13 onwards you'll see running protesters from right to left behind the orage protective sheeting, disappear and re-appear as if by magic due to the camera internal calculations and quality of recording. But they do appear to be cloaked.




posted on May, 4 2011 @ 04:14 PM
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I don't see anything in there but the soccer ball???



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