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You're Not Truly Awake If You See Conspiracy in EVERY News Story

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posted on May, 3 2011 @ 02:33 AM
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It seems to me lately that no matter what story is reported in the news, people scream that there is a big conspiracy behind it and we're being lied to by the main stream media.

You're not truly awake if you think this, you're more like the Mel Gibson character in "Conspiracy Theory" who sees conspiracies in every little thing that he sees. You're more of a prisoner than the people who just go through every day existence believing everything that they're told.

Not every news story is a conspiracy, sometimes it's just news. It's a sign of our times when mainstream media puts in an addendum on big news stories saying "oh, Conspiracy Theorists will start to say this" about the big stories.

If you start seeing conspiracy everywhere, you'll actually miss the bigger picture, and will probably miss the main conspiracy theories hiding in plain sight.

Recent example was the killing of Osama Bin Laden. Conspiracy Theorists the world over are debating about why the body was being dumped right away, why the USA wouldn't let the media examine it, etc etc etc.

Have you stopped to consider that they genuinely wanted to get rid of it as quickly as possible and in as remote a location as possible to avoid it becoming a symbol for martyrdom?

The bigger story for me is why did Obama "reshuffle" (read - fire) Secretary of Defense Gates the DAY BEFORE the raid, when they had been discussing the raid for six weeks? While his retirement was planned this year, it was certainly not planned this quickly. Why would senior staff needed in the planning of a raid be removed from office right before that raid takes place? It's obvious that not everyone in the administration believed in the kill order, but this has been conveniently swept under the rug, and not even bought up by MSM.

Like so many other items, completely ignored because all the conspiracy theorists are busy looking in the wrong direction.

Usually the big stories are the distraction from the little stories happening in the background which are the bigger parts of the conspiracy theory.

It's an old magicians trick. Distract the audience with something shiny and flashy and with misdirection, while your other hand or assistant is doing something else entirely that's being completely ignored by everyone, except for the odd little kid who says "hang on, his assistant just ran behind the box and changed clothes while everyone was watching the cute bunny".

On the weekend, all the talk in the media was about the upcoming budget battle in Congress this week regarding the raising of the debt ceiling. Now, the media isn't talking about anything other than OBL, and completely ignoring whatever Congress is doing with the economy. I'm guessing that the debt ceiling raise will be quietly passed, while the media's attention is elsewhere.

There have also been questions in recent months about the amount of money that has been spent on intelligence gathering and the military, which will all now conveniently vanish due to one major success. Anyone who questions military spending at this point is simply going to get shouted down with "well, we need that spending to go after terrorists".

The media also made a huge deal about the banks paying off their TARP losses from 2008 in 2010, and now making huge profits again already. What they don't tell you, is that under corporate law, banks can write off their loses from previous years against profits from current years. Therefore, not only did the taxpayer pay to bail them out in 2008, the banks used tax breaks on profits in 2009 to pay back that money in 2010, and make it look like they paid back the taxpayer. The taxpayer ended up paying twice.

People, Alex Jones, Jesse Ventura, David Icke and others of their ilke can now almost be seen as mainstream media for conspiracy theorists. If you are listening to what they're telling you to think rather than doing your own thinking and real research into current and historical events, you are still sheep being herded by the dogs, you're just not being led by msm, you're being led by people who are claiming that they have your best interests at heart.

You're not really awake unless you figure it out for yourselves. If you jump on everyone else's conspiracy theories, you're still sheep in the fold.
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posted on May, 3 2011 @ 02:43 AM
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Originally posted by babybunnies
You're not really awake unless you figure it out for yourselves. If you jump on everyone else's conspiracy theories, you're still sheep in the fold.
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Everyone is a follower in some aspect with the exception of a higher power.

I guess this thread makes you the black sheep.
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posted on May, 3 2011 @ 02:56 AM
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Originally posted by babybunnies
You're Not Truly Awake If You See Conspiracy in EVERY News Story. You're not really awake unless you figure it out for yourselves. If you jump on everyone else's conspiracy theories, you're still sheep in the fold.



All the information we get is from the Matrix so we have to recognize that and believe in patterns otherwise thought becomes impossible.



posted on May, 3 2011 @ 03:03 AM
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Best thread I've seen all day. Sometimes a spade is a spade, and this incredibly complex world and society can't always be neatly wrapped up a-plus-b with a bow.

S+F
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posted on May, 3 2011 @ 03:07 AM
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Originally posted by SayonaraJupiter

Originally posted by babybunnies
You're Not Truly Awake If You See Conspiracy in EVERY News Story. You're not really awake unless you figure it out for yourselves. If you jump on everyone else's conspiracy theories, you're still sheep in the fold.



All the information we get is from the Matrix so we have to recognize that and believe in patterns otherwise thought becomes impossible.


Only to a point. The problem arises when people see patterns that aren't there and draw unsubstantiated conclusions from unrelated events.

There's a thread running right now trying to pin down what the PTB are trying to distract us from with the bin Laden announcement, and more than once people have floated the idea that if we're inside watching TV about OBL, then we can't be outside. If we're not outside, we can't look up. If we can't look up, we can't see the chemtrails. Therefore, the OBL announcement was hoaxed to divert our attention away from the chemtrails.

That thought pattern is beyond ignorant -- it's plain crazy!



posted on May, 3 2011 @ 03:22 AM
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Being a conspiracy website, theres a good chance you gonna meet ppl like that all over the place.

Any info, tease, taunt can be used to create some sort of limbo to an conspiring environment , to distort the truth. Its soo easy.

Creating sumtin like " Don't believe in any of this, its all true."
Because the conspirators are obviously tagged as unpatriotic or spooky. Its a good way to divide.
and believe me i'm not thats much of a conspirationist loll i'm not even interested into chemtrails or contrails.


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posted on May, 3 2011 @ 03:26 AM
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It's called being vigilant and using your brain. Don't knock people down when they're thinking. People all think differently and some of them even come to ATS to think out loud (or in type rather) just to bounce ideas off the rest of the community. Don't flame them for that.

I'm not sure if you've noticed but things are occurring in the world right now at a more rapid succession than usual. It is strange that the news of OBL was released at such a late hour just out of the blue. I mean, had you thought about him lately? I hadn't.

I can't even knock anyone for thinking or sharing sometimes crazy ideas. How many crazy ideas in history do you think have turned to genius? Key on a kite string.



posted on May, 3 2011 @ 03:32 AM
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Good job that ain't me then.



posted on May, 3 2011 @ 04:24 AM
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I think Osama being buried at sea is a moot point now.

Sure I want to see pictures or footage to confirm.

The more important question is why wasn't he brought in alive and how was he able to stay under the noses of the Pakistanis and Americans for so long?

Surely the CIA should be just as embarrassed as the ISI that they apparantly had no idea Bin Laden was living in that town.



posted on May, 3 2011 @ 05:16 AM
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Might i add to this thread, i would say that my eyes are open.

When ever i see something on the news that looks dodgy, i think to myself why would it be like that, and me and a few of my mates sit down and discuss. We come up with theories based upon what we see around us, and then we do research on the internet, one of the reasons i found this website. We realised that other people all over globe where thinking the same things that we were. So whenever something pops up for example this OBL ordered attack and muslim traditional Burial at sea.

First of all i would like to say that it is a load of crap because of the very many sources that have led to people being killed over it suggest that OBL had died years ago.

Second of all, Obama need to get the americans on his side what a better way to do so than to bring down the US's most wanted terrorist.

Third of all, there is no such thing as a muslim burial at sea and ill tell you why.

BECAUSE I LIVE IN A MUSLIM COUNTRY!!!!


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posted on May, 3 2011 @ 05:19 AM
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I killed Colonel Gaddafi last night. I didn't take any pictures and threw his body into the sea. Just take my word for it, he's definitely dead.



posted on May, 3 2011 @ 07:18 AM
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That is what makes a website like this one fun and interesting. People do not fully believe what they post sometimes they are just trying to get other people riled up and fired up. It is a game people play.



posted on May, 3 2011 @ 07:20 AM
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Originally posted by Spinster
I killed Colonel Gaddafi last night. I didn't take any pictures and threw his body into the sea. Just take my word for it, he's definitely dead.


Pat on the back from me! Now can you go after the rest of his family because he had a lot of sons and there is a whole lot of those Gaddafi buggers around. Now's not the time to rest on your laurels.



posted on May, 3 2011 @ 07:21 AM
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To not believe every news story started with a group of people crafting a message for a desired psychological effect is naive, Skippy.

There hasn't been a major news story since at least JFK that was totally truthful and not designed at least in part for the psychological impact.



posted on May, 3 2011 @ 07:26 AM
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Is a reason why, people that are well informed on the ways US is been run and who is behind the presidential seat knows that our media is own by corporate entities that are not far away from the same powers running the nation.

Yes, some media news are real but when it comes to the nations government and its economy is all sugar coated and most of the time manipulated to complement the status quo and the powers than be, free media in the US has been truly lost.

Plain and simple, you don't need to be a smart person to see the deceptions.



posted on May, 3 2011 @ 07:31 AM
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Originally posted by Pseudonaut
Only to a point. The problem arises when people see patterns that aren't there and draw unsubstantiated conclusions from unrelated events.


That almost sounds like how the War on Terror got started.

2nd line



posted on May, 3 2011 @ 08:08 AM
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Interesting how you enjoy using conspiracy theorist in a negative connotation. The fact is OBL was working for the US government until 911. Meaning the FBI and CIA knew where he was and what he was working on.


Sibel Edmonds “Bombshell” Bin Laden worked for US until 911!

In the interview, Sibel says that the US maintained 'intimate relations' with Bin Laden, and the Taliban, "all the way until that day of September 11."
These 'intimate relations' included using Bin Laden for 'operations' in Central Asia, including Xinjiang, China. These 'operations' involved using al Qaeda and the Taliban in the same manner "as we did during the Afghan and Soviet conflict," that is, fighting 'enemies' via proxies.
As Sibel has previously described, and as she reiterates in this latest interview, this process involved using Turkey (with assistance from 'actors from Pakistan, and Afghanistan and Saudi Arabia') as a proxy, which in turn used Bin Laden and the Taliban and others as a proxy terrorist army.
After filling in many of the details, with scores of informational links to support the allegations, Ryland summarizes thusly:
The bombshell here is obviously that certain people in the US were using Bin Laden up to September 11, 2001.
It is important to understand why: the US outsourced terror operations to al Qaeda and the Taliban for many years, promoting the Islamization of Central Asia in an attempt to personally profit off military sales as well as oil and gas concessions.
The silence by the US government on these matters is deafening. So, too, is the blowback.

www.bradblog.com...

Fact is all politicians lie.
Fact is most media lie most of the time.

Fact is Bin laden did not have anything to do with 911. Where’s the evidence? Hear say is not evidence. Just because our government says he did 911, it doesn’t mean they are telling the truth.
Fact is 911 was a false flag operation to save Israel and the truth will never come out because there are too many countries that hate Jews including a few million Americans. The oil was just the gravy train nothing more. Bin Laden was not our enemy; the hard facts speak for themselves and that is something that will never go away. The Sheeples are people who believe in the media lies, because many want to, they can’t handle the truth.



posted on May, 3 2011 @ 08:28 AM
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Originally posted by MindF
To not believe every news story started with a group of people crafting a message for a desired psychological effect is naive, Skippy.

There hasn't been a major news story since at least JFK that was totally truthful and not designed at least in part for the psychological impact.


Wow - that's a pretty bold statement, even for a news conspirator. No major news story since 1963 (that's nearly FIFTY YEARS) that was totally truthful ?

I'd LOVE to see you back that one up. Trust me, politicians and the media ain't that good.

While I do believe that the media certainly manipulates the public, and that politicians also do so through the media, to claim that they do so with EVERY major news story is just plain ignorant yourself.

As I said in the OP, sometimes, news is just news.



posted on May, 3 2011 @ 08:29 AM
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Originally posted by iamhobo

Originally posted by babybunnies
You're not really awake unless you figure it out for yourselves. If you jump on everyone else's conspiracy theories, you're still sheep in the fold.
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Everyone is a follower in some aspect with the exception of a higher power.

I guess this thread makes you the black sheep.
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Actually, I'm even an atheist. I don't believe in a higher power. Organized (even unorganized) religion and faith is the biggest crock of crap of the planet.

Anyone here on ATS who is a member of an organization that practices organized religion is TRULY brainwashed.



posted on May, 3 2011 @ 08:35 AM
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Actually, I'm even an atheist. I don't believe in a higher power. Organized (even unorganized) religion and faith is the biggest crock of crap of the planet.

Anyone here on ATS who is a member of an organization that practices organized religion is TRULY brainwashed.


I'm going to go out on a limb here and tell you that you don't know what you believe.

First and foremost, religious authorities and political authorities can NEVER be separated. Not in the West. Not with the Vatican being there.

Second, the biggest crock of crap as you say, organized religion, was created by governments. In that sense, governments must be bigger crocks of crap for making you believe something that is absolutely false.

So you joining ATS to speak in favor of the government yet against organized religion...is completely contradictory and shows a VERY low level of investigation if any at all. Wink, wink.




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