Wag The Dog - Three reasons why the official OBL story stinks to high heaven

Originally posted by LadyGreenEyes

Originally posted by aboutface
reply to post by Artorius

 

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My question mark about the whole story is this. Since I've never been in the armed forces, I just presume (so correct me here if need be) that the army does the tank and land things while the seals do the water related things. So I wondered why would not an army elite team do this, if it were true? Why seals? And the only answer I came come up with is that if the Army did it, then what to do with the body? So, bring in the navy in order to conjure up a burial at sea story.

Good question. Will ask my soldier about that, and see what he says.

SEAL is an acronym for SEa Air Land. They are capable of conducting operations anywhere and receive the some of the most extensive training in the US armed forces. Delta Force and Air Force PJs are also capable of conducting this type of operation, but the SEAL DevGru - formerly SEAL Team 6 - is specifically trained in counter-terrorism. That's why they were chosen.

The Mayan civilization of Tikal helped inspire George Lucas in the Star Wars saga. The main title of the movies came from the "star wars" action of war between Tikal and other Mayan cities. Certain astronomical signs in the heavens signaled a call to war. Just watch Phantom Menace, Attack of the Clones and Revenge of the Sith to see how the Emperor comes to power. One person played both sides to get ultimate power in the end. It makes you wonder if Osama Bin Laden was the false shadow. Maybe the stars are in the correct position now to start another Tikal war.

The Lords of Tikal

...due largely to warfare between Tikal and its neighbors. This period saw the beginning of the Maya "star wars" -- battles timed to astronomical events. It's interesting that the design of the rebel camp in the original "Star Wars" movie was based on the architecture of Tikal.

Tikal is Yavin 4 in Star Wars: New Hope

I think, as was mentioned earlier, that the CIA switchup could indeed have something to do with this madness. However, it's such an overarching and convoluted story. Would they really go through that much trouble to keep someone from stating that Bin Laden had already been killed? Would that cause enough conflict to be a problem that had to be solved in this bizarre manner?

The inconsistencies and lack of factual evidence are so over the top, that I have to believe that there is a reason behind it...that stirring skepticism and doubt are intended. But to what end?

The media have been making a point to briefly bring up those who have doubts - but then immediately compare them to conspiracy theorists. Why is that? Since when did asking questions and wanting facts become synonymous with being a conspiracy theorist? They aren't the same. I'm not postulating anything. I just want the inconsistencies to be addressed, facts laid out, and undeniable proof rather than a bunch of propaganda.

Considering the number of people who would like answers - who have not gotten them for 10 years, this kind of response is stupefying.

reply to post by okiecowboy


Amazing.

It looks like the people in the compound wasted all their ordinance on the Pakistani military and that's what made it such a cakewalk for the Seals.

Were the Pakistanis resisting the incursion? Could be.

One poster wanted to know why the Seals and not some Army unit like Delta Force were used. That's obvious. Specialists were needed for the burial at sea.

reply to post by Illusionsaregrander


do you think the people interviewed "spontaneously" may have heard the president use the phrase "united like we were on 9/11", and simply repeated it? the simplest answer is often the most likely to be true....

personally don't see a lot of "facts" here, lots of conjecture, most of it based in "we ALL KNOW our government lies to us ALL THE TIME." while that may be true, it doesn't prove anything. sounds to me like the administration does have photo's of the body, and is considering whether or not to release them. i'll reserve judgement until they come out (and you know they will).

reply to post by eArth33lr


September 11, 2011, will be exactly ten years later, not eleven. Still, possible that something is planned for that date. Know I won't be in any big public area then.

Ah, saw you caught that. Yes, though, the PTB seem to like the numbers games, and we can try and predict their actions using that against them!

If you don't like the official story, just wait a few minutes and it will change.

Release the videos and photos!

The world needs proof - or it didn't happen.

reply to post by ipsedixit


0RDINACE? COMPOUND? I SMELL A TROLL. THERE WAS NO RAID BUT THERE WAS A BIG LIE

reply to post by ipsedixit


0RDINACE? COMPOUND? I SMELL A TROLL. THERE WAS NO RAID BUT THERE WAS A BIG LIE

I pretty much had the same thoughts as the OP. I mean, after a nearly 10 year manhunt, they finally "get" him and then dispose the body into the sea?????

The only photograph that was circulating around the news media at the time of this news turned out to be fake. So all we are left with are the words of a politician. Its pretty much a case of "we dont have any evidence, so just take my word for it".

Absolute rubbish.

Originally posted by SilenceDogood

Originally posted by LadyGreenEyes

Originally posted by aboutface
reply to post by Artorius

 

*snip*
My question mark about the whole story is this. Since I've never been in the armed forces, I just presume (so correct me here if need be) that the army does the tank and land things while the seals do the water related things. So I wondered why would not an army elite team do this, if it were true? Why seals? And the only answer I came come up with is that if the Army did it, then what to do with the body? So, bring in the navy in order to conjure up a burial at sea story.

Good question. Will ask my soldier about that, and see what he says.

SEAL is an acronym for SEa Air Land. They are capable of conducting operations anywhere and receive the some of the most extensive training in the US armed forces. Delta Force and Air Force PJs are also capable of conducting this type of operation, but the SEAL DevGru - formerly SEAL Team 6 - is specifically trained in counter-terrorism. That's why they were chosen.

Very true, and a good point. Not to mention, they are totally capable. I think the real question is, with so many Army on the ground, why weren't Army Special Forces used instead? Yeah, I know, could have been tied up with other operations. In any case, assuming what we are told is close to truth, and they did get him, good for them! Kudos, and stay safe.

reply to post by redroses4me

Welcome to ATS new member.

All caps posts are a breach of posting etiquette. Double posts are a thing that happen from time to time but a star on each post is a little silly.

If you smell a troll get your nose out of your armpit.

One thing I haven't seen on this thread (although I haven't read it in it's entirety) is this question. Where would the US be if we had captured him alive and brought him to trial? We would be forced to prove 9/11 was his responsibility or that it even happened as we were told. Talk about CAN O WORMS!!

reply to post by Druid42

2. Muslim tradition. So before you kill someone, you research their religious beliefs, and after you head shot him, you tell everyone you have followed his religion when you (subject to change), dump him in the sea. Did they attach chains and cinder blocks to his legs when they dumped him? To wash the body beforehand? So really, our government has experts on the Quran, and it told them to do that? What I've read, the only way a muslim is supposed to be "buried at sea" is if they are on that vessel as a member and there is no way to get to shore. All muslims want to be planted. Oh no, TPTB say, we don't want a shrine to the biggest baddest person in the world, he was a bad guy. Why NOT pop him in the morgue, let him chill for three days? Oh, because we are sympathetic to another belief system that says internment within 24 hrs. How convenient. Well, hypocrisy rules, because we (subject to change) assassinated him, and that, wait for it.......was how when on June 28th, 1928, WW1 started. Archduke Ferdinand? He's dead, so is OBL.

Good post. It doesnt make sense to me that the people who hated OBL for his alleged crimes against America, were suddenly concerned about him getting a burial according to his customs.

still have a few pages to read of this thread, but I posted a link to the following article on my Facebook page hoping it might help open the minds of some of those who cannot believe that a government would willingly hurt its own people for political gain...am just giving you the link in case any of you want to do the same...it's quite level-headed and rationally written in my opinion:

www.disclose.tv...

I hope that doesn't seem off-topic, for me the inability to believe in false-flags is the root of people not being able to believe in what you are talking about in this thread

Anyone know if there were any actual surviving witnesses from the house that was raided? Or did they mow everyone down?

We need some eye witness testimony, preferably non military. There must surely be someone who saw what happened and is able to recount an honest testimony?

reply to post by megalodon5750

They had another couple of outstanding cases against him. The USS Cole bombing for one. But you're right. His presence alive would have opened a can of worms.

The only reason to believe that Osama might still have been alive in my opinion, is that he was writing checks to a lot of people. That left hand of his was a very valuable property.

reply to post by BlackOps719


No witnesses. No body. Just political theater and media blitz. And if you step back from all the uproar and hype and ask some basic questions, you are dismissed as a conspiracy lunatic.

Why no body???? They got rid of OBL's remains faster than they got rid of the steel and other remains of the WTC soon after 911.

This smells bad.

I just read that there were survivors from the house after all.

One woman and two young children, all who are now in the custody of the Pakistani intelligence agency.

I suppose it is safe to assume that they will never be heard from or seen again.

reply to post by BlackOps719


Well apparently they have and have identified the wife who was with him.

www.dailymail.co.uk...

Heaven only knows if she will ever speak.