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Wag The Dog - Three reasons why the official OBL story stinks to high heaven

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posted on May, 3 2011 @ 10:54 PM
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No, I read the post too. YOU read it that way because you obviously werent watching it as it played out. The media DID initially report that the raid, and the death, occurred a few days, ( on some outlets ) or " about a week ago" on the one I watched.

You clearly did not watch Sunday night.


Originally posted by itsalwayssunnyinamerica
I can't be the only one that remembers them saying that he was killed a few days prior to the announcement. Then maybe 10 minutes later, on the same station, they were saying that it happened on Sunday. When I brought this up to my father he said "maybe they got it mixed up".


She how she says they said he was killed a few days ago and then 10 minutes later they said no it was Sunday? Ponder that. She is watching TV on Sunday. And the people on TV are saying they killed him a few days ago. If she were not watching TV on Sunday, how could the say 10 minutes later that he was killed on Sunday?




posted on May, 3 2011 @ 10:55 PM
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Originally posted by Illusionsaregrander

Originally posted by smirnoffsky
CNN kept on discussing how awesome and sophisticated was the real-time technology used to relay the actual mission from Pakistan all the way to the White House "situation room". To the point that people inside the situation room could directly and immediately intervene and issue orders if needed. Like a lot of people here, my big question is, why didn't they take OBL alive?


They didnt take Osama alive because he was already dead, years ago. Obama is being punked too. They had to "dump the body at sea" not only to hide that fact from the people, but from Obama as well.


The only people in the world that know what really happened in that compound were the people actually in that compound. Obama and the others werent watching. They were being given "live updates" blind, in other words. And the people in that room conveniently destroyed all the evidence between dumping the body into the sea, and burning the place.

The CIA is lying to Obama, and he is lying to us, but not because he is party to it, but because he is a pawn.


You are brilliant, you and the OP.

I am starting to put more pieces together and see it this way too, that Obama is a pawn being duped into this bogus account along with the sheep.

Dang,

I'm now wondering how will he respond once he finds out that he was being lied to?

Will he keep the lie going to save face?
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posted on May, 3 2011 @ 10:56 PM
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It's unusual that there were servicemen or retired military celebrating in front of the White House? They couldn't be happy because they feel like the hard work they've been doing has paid off could they? I know my military friends were very happy.

And look at the other people who were in front of the WH, college students. At least 4 of them were friends of mine. Why is it so hard to believe that young Americans would want to celebrate the news that the terrorist who scared them so much as teenagers was killed? Your post is just ridiculous.



posted on May, 3 2011 @ 11:01 PM
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Originally posted by Illusionsaregrander

They didnt take Osama alive because he was already dead, years ago. Obama is being punked too. They had to "dump the body at sea" not only to hide that fact from the people, but from Obama as well.


Nonsense.

The real story is that highly trained SEALS had trouble subduing an unarmed sick old man so they had to shoot him in the face.

Be a good American and stop thinking.



posted on May, 3 2011 @ 11:01 PM
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Soooo.. did anyone listen to Glenn Beck today?
Apparently if you don't think Osama was killed Sunday you will now be refered to as "Deathers"
When I heard him say that I spit my drink out. So now we have Birthers, Truthers and Deathers....Anyone else find it curious that there is always a silly name made for people who don't accept the "official story" ?

Anyway, I'm with you OP, the story just doesn't add up. Keep digging everyone, if we could have been on 9/11 immediately after it happened like ATS has been on this one, maybe it would be a whole different story today.

Lets just hope no one finds the Allspark....



posted on May, 3 2011 @ 11:02 PM
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Originally posted by InterestedObserver
reply to post by redroses4me
 


It's unusual that there were servicemen or retired military celebrating in front of the White House? They couldn't be happy because they feel like the hard work they've been doing has paid off could they? I know my military friends were very happy.

And look at the other people who were in front of the WH, college students. At least 4 of them were friends of mine. Why is it so hard to believe that young Americans would want to celebrate the news that the terrorist who scared them so much as teenagers was killed? Your post is just ridiculous.


But honestly, how could they feel such joy, when so many of their fellow servicemen died in Iraq or Afaghanistan 'supposedly over this one guy,

and our government doesn't even allow any of you to see the reward, to justify the sacrifices?

I imagine that many U.S. service members had the facial expression of "WTF!" when it was announced that the body had been given funeral rites and buried at sea within hours.....
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posted on May, 3 2011 @ 11:04 PM
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I posted this in another thread I started... Now that I re-read it I may have read it wrong.


Late Sunday evening, Obama said that the leader of Al Qaeda, responsible for the Sept. 11 attacks, was killed during an operation he ordered inside Pakistan a week ago.


I heard this on the news and other news websites but I am not sure now if they were saying the order was made a week ago and carried out on May 1st or the order was given and carried out a week ago....

source



posted on May, 3 2011 @ 11:07 PM
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Because it's not as if anyone has been clamoring recently for the capture or kill of Osama, particularly young people.



These people don't seem too engaged, if you know what I mean.

And just to reiterate, CNN's Ed Henry said live on-air that either the Secret Service or Bush administration staffers or both had formulated a contingency plan (ala "Mission Accomplished") for just such an on-site "impromptu" celebration if Osama was captured and evidently just ran with it in real time on Sunday.

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posted on May, 3 2011 @ 11:07 PM
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UNTIL THE MAJORITY OF USA PEOPLE WAKE UP TO THE NIGHTMARE THAT IS THE USA GOV NOTHING WILL CHANGE. THE SAME PUPPETS WILL BE IN PLACE. FOLLOWING ORDERS FROM GENERALS WHO FOLLOW ORDERS FROM BIG MONEY. GEORGE , BILL ,BARACK, BILLARY, IT WILL NOT CHANGE. AS LONG AS THE MEDIA BRAINWASHES PEOPLE IN THE USA, THE USA PEOPLE WILL ALWAYS BE BRAINWASHED



posted on May, 3 2011 @ 11:07 PM
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Why would any sane operatives KILL the head of a covert enemy agency when he was unarmed?

Did he have NO information that would be useful?
How would they have known that?

Did he have information that they did NOT want revealed?

I have no idea, and I do mean NO idea, as to how you would justify his murder under an antiseptic guideline.
This thing stinks and so do the folks who brought it to you.



posted on May, 3 2011 @ 11:09 PM
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Originally posted by ButterCookie

I'm now wondering how will he respond once he finds out that he was being lied to?

Will he keep the lie going to save face?


I dont think so. I think he is a smart guy, but overwhelmed with information. Think of how many people are throwing information at you if you are President. Tons. And you have engagements, and trips, you are running all over the place. You have to trust people. And he does.

I think this was easy for him to swallow because he, like many people, WANTED to believe it. He like the rest of us, wanted Osama caught because of 9-11. But he has extra motive for wanting to believe it. His poll numbers are low, he has had to give us nothing but bad news, he wants to get re-elected. So, this is like a miracle to him, to be the guy who got Osama?

And they are totally stroking his ego with how brave it was to give the order.

No, if he figures out he was lied to, he is going to be PISSED.

The big question I have is, if he figures out they he himself has no credible evidence and starts demanding some, will something bad happen to him.



posted on May, 3 2011 @ 11:12 PM
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Originally posted by largo
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Why would any sane operatives KILL the head of a covert enemy agency when he was unarmed?



Because Osama was kicking their asses all over the room. Must have been all those meds that got Osama all amped up to resist highly trained SEALS.

Alas, our highly trained operatives were physically outmatched so they had to shoot him.



posted on May, 3 2011 @ 11:12 PM
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Just posting this in case anyone here missed the following thread and wanted to take a look. If this is true, it's very strange, eh?

Robert Gates and David Petraeus were in Abbottabad last year, within walking distance of Bin Laden!
 

Also, has anyone here heard any reports in the MSM about OBL being taken out by one of his own rather than being captured alive? I can't find anything about it but have someone swearing to me they heard it on a news show within the last two days. If so, I suspect it was someone speculating.
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posted on May, 3 2011 @ 11:15 PM
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Originally posted by Illusionsaregrander
reply to post by LosLobos
 


No, I read the post too. YOU read it that way because you obviously werent watching it as it played out. The media DID initially report that the raid, and the death, occurred a few days, ( on some outlets ) or " about a week ago" on the one I watched.

You clearly did not watch Sunday night.


Originally posted by itsalwayssunnyinamerica
I can't be the only one that remembers them saying that he was killed a few days prior to the announcement. Then maybe 10 minutes later, on the same station, they were saying that it happened on Sunday. When I brought this up to my father he said "maybe they got it mixed up".


She how she says they said he was killed a few days ago and then 10 minutes later they said no it was Sunday? Ponder that. She is watching TV on Sunday. And the people on TV are saying they killed him a few days ago. If she were not watching TV on Sunday, how could the say 10 minutes later that he was killed on Sunday?



please explain yourself i did not get one thing you said here



posted on May, 3 2011 @ 11:15 PM
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Watching this video of the OBL death celebration...

WOW

This should be shown everywhere!!! Pardon me, as I'm not even done watching it..

just had to thank you for posting it...

I didn't believe those college kids for one second Sunday night...never could get what in the hell could they be so emotional about when

a. they apparently have no clue about 9/11, the aftermath, or our ties with OBL

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b. they were in grade school or younger and didn't even understand it back then

back to watchin the rest of it!!!




posted on May, 3 2011 @ 11:16 PM
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the most problematic to me is the lack of verification....not one reporter, NATO officer, allies of the willing to comment on the death of the villian we have been chasing for ten years...

it was amazing today to watch the picture of bho and his staff glued to the tv. in the situation room...but not one pic of what they were watching....clearly there is a video somewhere of this

don't ya think it would be great publicity if indeed obl held his wife up in front of him as a human shield as they have said all day...the great satan actually a coward///you'll never see that

i love that one guy said that the prez announced during the apprentice tv show

and my conspiracy thought was that the helicopter that crashed...probably had refrigeration in it to take out the body and plant it...this way...no questions....

and still we have 20 percent unemployment, gas closer to 5 bucks a gallon, a war in libiya that still has no explanation, syrians killing their people, al queda now freedom fighter in libya.....so who get to benefit from this

obama for low polls, iran unchecked nuclear, russia has no horse in the race so no increase in debt...and everyone owes china

bottom line ...it stinks.....and the american public worries more on monday and tuesday nite about dwts

some days your the pidgeon...some days the windshield



posted on May, 3 2011 @ 11:18 PM
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You got an excellent point here..( about Obama demanding more credible evidence)

Why am I thinking of a JFK 'situation'?

And I'm not even joking
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posted on May, 3 2011 @ 11:23 PM
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If you reread the whole exchange it might make sense, but it would be the third time rehashing that same line of argument and I dont want to. That specific post was for that specific person.

Someone else already posted a link and a clip of the material in question. Its not earth shaking news. Its just that the early reports spoke in such a way that made it sound as if the raid took place days before Sunday at first, then they made it clear it was earlier that day the raid took place.

The person it WAS directed too was intent on accusing the person who brought it up of trying to say that the media reported the raid days before Sunday, which is utter tosh.



posted on May, 3 2011 @ 11:26 PM
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Originally posted by LosLobos
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People somehow forget about the gang of 8. The republicans and Tea Party folks are not saying anything because they KNOW it happened. Isn't Bachman on some kind of super secret committee? If it didn't add up she would be the first one saying its all a lie.


So you speak for the Tea Party and Republicans?

LOL

They "know it happened" really? Thats funny because from what i have observed Tea Party, Republicans , Democrats, Independent and basically people from all parties and even abroad are saying this is a hoax. What the heck are you talking about Labamba?



posted on May, 3 2011 @ 11:28 PM
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MOST OF THE WORLD KNOWS THE USA GOVERNMENT IS LYING ABOUT EVERYTHING INCLUDING 911 AND OSAMA B LADENS DEATH. IT'S ONLY IN THE USA THAT THE PEOPLE HAVE BEEN FOOLED 4 ALL THESE YEARS.



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