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How Osama Is About To Win The 'War On Terror'

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posted on May, 5 2011 @ 11:29 AM
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Who would care to blackmail this piece of muslim trash anyway?




posted on May, 5 2011 @ 11:29 AM
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Originally posted by Skerrako
reply to post by nightbringr
 




The USA is NOT going to attack Russia, i cant think of anything more suicidal.

Even if the US thought they had nuclear supremacy and could knock out or first-strike each Russian nuclear missle out of the sky, they know the SLBMs would find their targets. Nuclear armageddeon would ensue.

Even if the USA was assured to be able to stop all these threats, martial law would first have to be imposed, as the American public would certainly revolt in a scenerio like this, there is no justifiable reason at all to attack Russia.


We're fighting Russia right now, where do you think the Taliban get a lot of their weapons from? They're doing the same thing we did to them. Proxy Wars.

Do you think Russia will lay back as the U.S. and western powers take out and disrupt regional allies?

What will happen if the U.S> has an armed conflict in a country with Russian military regiments?

I am not a fearmongerer, and I don't think one day the U.S. is going to decide to attack Russia.

But look at how we're pushing everywhere China and Russia has investments, which is ever crazier because China is paying for us to do this! No, U.S. imperialism is going to fail, and within three years


I doubt the US is going to attack a country with Russian regiments. Like you said, its a proxy war.

Like what happened in South Ossetia, the US would supply weapons and supplies, not attack directly. We got thru decades of the Cold War, and America does not see Russia as the huge threat it once was. China is now the great worry. The US wants regional hegemony, not a nuclear conflict.

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posted on May, 5 2011 @ 11:48 AM
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This is not OBL's plan at all, since in 2004 he was already dead. This is the plan of the globalist who wish to destroy the only group that could defeat them, Americans.

No Star and flag for missing the mark completely



posted on May, 5 2011 @ 01:51 PM
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yes we are broken the sad thing is are own government helped plot and carry out this military attack on our economy they purposely fought this war this long for just that reason



posted on May, 5 2011 @ 02:46 PM
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What shocks me the most is that most poeple never caught onto Usama original plan! That is the main objective to terrorism bleeding a country dry financially and causing overall fear within that nation. As the op stated, he planned this and stated this in the open and no one ... I mean no one caught onto this.

How in the world is that possible?

Its funny how he fired a single bullet and the nation just crippled from within.



posted on May, 5 2011 @ 03:29 PM
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Well really im sure the US government realizes what it is doing and how it is bankrupting itself.

The REAL conspiracy is that the people who make the decisions are tied in with companies like Halliburton and big oil. They are lining their own pockets while everyone else suffers. The conspiracy, at least in the US doesnt run any deeper than that, nor would it have to. Hell, Cheney was CEO of Halliburton from 1995 till 2000. Who do you think profited the most from the Gulf War?



posted on May, 5 2011 @ 06:21 PM
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Reading this thread actually brings tears to my eyes..Im not joking. One poster even has hope that the ATS community will somehow come up with a solution to all this mess in the world and the endless manipulation and lies and killings and greed. Its futile as far as I can see. i decided years ago to go down the zen route in life and in my way of thinking. I mean at the end of the day you cant believe anything your told, from day one its santa clause, the tooth fairy and the easter bunny, only thing is before you hit your teens you get the truth sprang on you, remember...then Jesus, a fairy tale about a guy who could walk on water and came back from the dead etc, people should really have learnt not to be fooled twice after learning about who put the presents under the tree but thats people for you, they want to believe in anything they can hold onto in this uncertain world..even if its a evil wizzard who lives in a cave and has a long grey bierd and can make building vanish all by themselves by clicking his fingers...id need proof on that one, just like thomas, of course this is where this manipulation business started isnt it...dont dare question what we tell you or you will be a doubting thomas, unchristian and unpatriotic or a nut job, and who is it pushes this senario all the time "we killed bin laded...buried him at sea...so u better accept that thats the truth". of course it goes way beyond weather bin laden was killed the other day or not, as has been well documented in this thread and elsewhere, like how sky scrapers vanish into puffs of smoke with or without planes hitting them....but it was on TV, so it must be real and the god fearing president told us so. We were set up from the first day of birth and if you really wanna wake up you better wipe it all clean and accept the one thing that you do know for sure is that you dont know #. Once you accept tha, you can make a decision, to either carryon playing you part in the made up so called civilisation or you can try to get out of it...



posted on May, 5 2011 @ 07:01 PM
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Very well put together OP.

I really think you summerized the war in a nutshell in this post.
I'm sure the U.S. and allies understand the tools of war being used against them.
Sadly our govts. s**t the bed and went in head first without a long term plan.
And WE! The citizens of these countries, are left with nothing but the memories of the men, women and children who have died in this war. And a debt that will be carried on the backs of our grandchildren possibly great grandchildren.

So very sad



posted on May, 5 2011 @ 08:46 PM
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Originally posted by YouCannotBeSirius
reply to post by tooo many pills
 


This is not OBL's plan at all, since in 2004 he was already dead. This is the plan of the globalist who wish to destroy the only group that could defeat them, Americans.


Yeah, he could have dead long before, but the CIA said the tape was authentic in 2004. To believe them or not to believe them is the real question? Everyone dismissed Osama's claims and basically laughed off the bankruptcy statement in 2004, it's not so funny now. Regardless of if he was already dead or if that was his real plan all along before 9/11, it is a CIA authenticated tape posted on CNN. Nobody took it seriously and I mean nobody.

And BTW, the U.N./U.S. has still yet to actually define "terrorism."

www.abovetopsecret.com...&flagit=692508

We technically fighting anyone, anywhere, at anytime that threatens our "national security." If that's not a fast track to bankruptcy I don't know what is? You can blame the globalists all you want, but we fell for their trickery under the mask of Osama.


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posted on May, 5 2011 @ 10:09 PM
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OBL failed. Russia ain't the Soviet Union anymore but it still patrols Chechnya with an iron fist, his safehaven and supportive government in Afghanistan is no more, there is revolution in the Middle East but it sure isn't headed in the direction he wanted to go, and now he is dead. He gave it a shot...but he is just fish food now. Reminds me of that old Beatles song "Octopus' Garden"

"We would be warm below the storm
In our little hideaway beneath the waves
Resting our head on the sea bed
In an octopus' garden near a cave"



posted on May, 5 2011 @ 10:16 PM
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I like the Beatles too, but I think you missed the enitre point.

- Osama's goal was to bankrupt the U.S.



posted on May, 5 2011 @ 10:28 PM
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Originally posted by tooo many pills
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I like the Beatles too, but I think you missed the enitre point.

- Osama's goal was to bankrupt the U.S.


Oh I know what his goal was...and yes that was one of them. His desire to bankrupt Amrica was blatantly obvious when in a roundabout way he publically endorsed Obama for President. However, OBL had a big hand in the toppling of the Soviet Union but we helped him. As a result that part of the world has actually come out of it stronger and Russia is still a pain in the butt with an economy to now back itself up. Sometimes you gotta be careful what you wish for. When we finally do bankrupt ourselves we will struggle and we learn that printing money is not the answer we'll get stronger too.



posted on May, 5 2011 @ 10:46 PM
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posted on May, 5 2011 @ 11:12 PM
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Whatever else he was, Usama bin Laden was a major participant in the downfall of the two biggest and scariest world powers.

He wanted US troops out of Saudi Arabia... it happened...
He wanted to beat the USSR... it happened...
He wanted to bankrupt the US... it's happening...

It's a lot more than I did with my life.

I'm of a mind that we should at least respect our enemies... in fact, that we don't may play a big part in our downfall... pride and arrogance cometh before the fall.
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posted on May, 6 2011 @ 12:05 AM
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Originally posted by CharlieRay
Whatever else he was, Usama bin Laden was a major participant in the downfall of the two biggest and scariest world powers.

He wanted US troops out of Saudi Arabia... it happened...
He wanted to beat the USSR... it happened...
He wanted to bankrupt the US... it's happening...

It's a lot more than I did with my life.

I'm of a mind that we should at least respect our enemies... in fact, that we don't may play a big part in our downfall... pride and arrogance cometh before the fall.
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The US stayed in Saudi Arabia for years despite OBLs wishes. You do realize that we left Saudi only because it was more trouble than it was worth and we only moved up the road to the UAE. That hardly got us out of OBL's hair.

Ronald Reagon had more hand in bankrupting the Soviet Union than OBL ever did...although OBL was a player it was Readgon contiually building up US defense that got the Soviets in a bind. Reagan new exactly what he was doing. The whole star wars thing was laughable. He had the Russians spending money to counter something he himself knew we would never get fielded.

And maybe we are going bankrupt. But I blame Washignton more than OBL.

The only thing OBL really deserves any credit for is the mass murder of thousands of people. Nothing else.



posted on May, 6 2011 @ 11:04 AM
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very interesting a good read... why this wasnt more common knowledge confuses me!

s&f



posted on May, 6 2011 @ 12:47 PM
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Of course we are going bankrupt. I mean they are considering charging a tax on gasoline by the amount of traveled miles. Also there is much much more things such as selling of public structures, high gas prices, no jobs, no new infrastructure, everyone in massive debt. We were much better 10-15 years ago. The war on terror was won by the terrorists.



posted on May, 7 2011 @ 12:53 PM
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I hate Osama as much as the next guy, but who thinks that in one of his recently released videos meant for America, that they censored the audio from, he said something along the lines of...
"LA LAALAH, I told you so!"

Ughhh, will we ever get to hear it?



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posted on May, 7 2011 @ 11:18 PM
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Originally posted by THE_PROFESSIONAL
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Of course we are going bankrupt. I mean they are considering charging a tax on gasoline by the amount of traveled miles. Also there is much much more things such as selling of public structures, high gas prices, no jobs, no new infrastructure, everyone in massive debt. We were much better 10-15 years ago. The war on terror was won by the terrorists.


Oh yeah...your going back to the Clinton years. No doubt, those were pretty good years financially for America. We didn't bother fighting terrorists at the time. Hell, thanks to the adminstration at the time the first WTC bombing was treated like a robbery at a grocery store. Clinton couldn't even be bothered to go the NYC at the time and recognize the fact we were attacked by terrorists. As a result, Al Qeada had quite a run for awhile with all the embassy bombings and the attack on the USS Cole, Kobar Towers and others. But hey...the budget was balanced...good on him.



posted on May, 9 2011 @ 03:31 AM
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With all the talk of false flag events, some people, including a vast majority of Americans it seems, cannot seem to understand that "OBL" was as much of a scapegoat as the jewish rabbis were in the "Krystal Nacht" events.

Go through all the KNOWN false flag events in history, look at the scapegoat, look what happened to them. Completely unfounded and agressed by nothing more than a lie initiated by the government who was supposedly "under attack" by said SG.

oh yeah, those damned jews burned our building! TO WAR!!

oh yeah, those damned arabs burned our buildings! TO WAR!!

I'm sorry, but the continued talk of this nature towards the topic of Osama Bin Laden (and his demise), a man whom no one KNEW anything about, is completely barbaric and goes to show the true nature of America and it's foreign policy - as well as the constituants of it's country.

If this is what America has become, then you have become nothing more than what you HATED about the "arab" tribes.

I wonder how up-in-arms the Americans would be, if their president was to be assasinated and the other countries were to celebrate in such a way.

I'd like to ask who the real terrorists are?? the ones you purport to be fighting against?? or yourselves?

I have a dictionary here, from 1988 - which states "Terrorism; an act of aggression by a government against it's country". I find it interesting that my new 2010 dictonary has a changed version.

I suppose, truth and fact are what you make it.




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